Con_Alma;1824324 wrote:Lol They are polar opposites, aren't they....a black communist to a white nationalist.

Crazy world.

lol....I think this is just the start of a 4-yr troll job from Trump

Automatik;1823792 wrote:72k/year to "Stop Trump"

Don't be so fucking gullible.

That's probably a scam. But it wouldn't surprise me if we don't see some professional protestors getting paid to picket the Capitol/White House for months, at least.

See that - already creating jobs :laugh:

Just watched his 60 minutes interview. I think liberals will be surprised in a positive way and conservatives, especially social conservatives may be disappointed.



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Wolves of Babylon;1824391 wrote:Just watched his 60 minutes interview. I think liberals will be surprised in a positive way and conservatives, especially social conservatives may be disappointed.



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??? Why would social conservatives be disappointed? From a social issues perspectives he certainly hasn't been the dream candidate. I don't think social conservatives expect that to suddenly change.

Wolves of Babylon;1824391 wrote:Just watched his 60 minutes interview. I think liberals will be surprised in a positive way and conservatives, especially social conservatives may be disappointed.

Yeah, Trump may not be a skilled politician....but he KNOWS marketing and branding, so saying whatever he needs to say or projecting whatever image he needed to win an election came very naturally.

It will be very interesting. I think on many issues he's going to find it easier to work with Dems, and he's going to need them because I don't see Repubs unifying behind him.

Spock;1824322 wrote:could you imagine the picks that HC would of made? It would of been worse then Obama

*have
*than

Goddammit, cc.

The more I pay attention to Trump, the more I realize that while he's still not "likeable" to me, some of his ideas do make sense. I can't discount that just because I don't like him as a person. But maybe I've got that wrong, too. Hard to say at this point.

CenterBHSFan;1824476 wrote:The more I pay attention to Trump, the more I realize that while he's still not "likeable" to me, some of his ideas do make sense. I can't discount that just because I don't like him as a person. But maybe I've got that wrong, too. Hard to say at this point.

He's clearly still an arrogant dickhead, but the idea that he's some racist/anti-gay/2nd coming of Hitler is the result of people forming opinions through facebook & twitter memes for 12 months.

Wolves of Babylon;1824391 wrote:Just watched his 60 minutes interview. I think liberals will be surprised in a positive way and conservatives, especially social conservatives may be disappointed.



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Social conservatives are like SJWs. They deserve to be disappointed.

fish82;1824480 wrote:He's clearly still an arrogant dickhead, but the idea that he's some racist/anti-gay/2nd coming of Hitler is the result of people forming opinions through facebook & twitter memes for 12 months.

Correct

Wait. Did I just hear Obama blame Bush a few minutes ago during his presser? hahahahaha

(but it's ok, he immediately followed up by puffing his chest out and explaining how much he improved the country)

ptown_trojans_1;1824311 wrote:Well, Steve Bannon as a chief adviser is not a good step Trump.
Reince is not bad, but the fact that Bannon may influence policy is not a good start.

Yeah, I was kinda hoping for a better start. I wasn't COUNTING on a better start, but I was hoping.

fish82;1824480 wrote:He's clearly still an arrogant dickhead, but the idea that he's some racist/anti-gay/2nd coming of Hitler is the result of people forming opinions through facebook & twitter memes for 12 months.

Pretty much that. I made the mistake of getting into it with a 60-year-old (lest someone chalks this up to 'millennials') man about this. All I did was ask for evidence that he has actually promoted widespread violence against any segment of the population.

Dude responded by hinting that I didn't want to get on his bad side and that Trump was such a piece of shit that it didn't require the use of logic to see that he wants violence against minorities. He went further on to say that if any violence is committed against anyone he knows and loves in the name of Trump, he's holding everyone who voted for Trump responsible.

The fuck is wrong with people?

Heretic;1824493 wrote:Social conservatives are like SJWs. They deserve to be disappointed.

This.

O-Trap;1824560 wrote: The fuck is wrong with people?

There are a lot of brainwashed ignorants on the left. But we're seeing real and tangible examples of it, as opposed to the "racist, Obama-hating" unicorns we're told numbered in the millions despite never seeing tangible examples outside of anonymous internet trolls.

O-Trap;1824560 wrote: The fuck is wrong with people?

There are a lot of brainwashed ignorants on the left. But we're seeing real and tangible examples of it, as opposed to the "racist, Obama-hating" unicorns we're told numbered in the millions despite never seeing tangible examples outside of anonymous internet trolls. Not that I doubt they exist, just that they weren't rioting and openly threatening people with violence.

O-Trap;1824560 wrote:Pretty much that. I made the mistake of getting into it with a 60-year-old (lest someone chalks this up to 'millennials') man about this. All I did was ask for evidence that he has actually promoted widespread violence against any segment of the population.

Dude responded by hinting that I didn't want to get on his bad side and that Trump was such a piece of shit that it didn't require the use of logic to see that he wants violence against minorities. He went further on to say that if any violence is committed against anyone he knows and loves in the name of Trump, he's holding everyone who voted for Trump responsible.

The fuck is wrong with people?

I just had a skype convo a little while ago with one of my coworkers (we are in several groups who work for a gaming company) who is having the same mental traumas due to being a SJW. I couldn't help but pushing some buttons on him.
I'll remove the names to keep privacy.

[5:17:29 PM] : Still... Steve Bannon? REALLY?
[5:17:51 PM] Me: Can't be any worse than Valerie Jarret, IMO
[5:18:44 PM] : But Bannon... I mean.. is the Govt going to be responsible for washing his good wearing sheets?
[5:19:35 PM] Me: I'unno. I don't really feel engaged enough in Trump's presidency to be alarmed about anything until policy is actually done.
[5:19:51 PM] : His White Nationalism ties are disturbing
[5:19:52 PM] Me: But being alarmed at this point is pointless
[5:20:11 PM] Me: Really... is it any more alarming than Obama's BLM invited to the WH ... what 3 times?
[5:20:19 PM] : I WILL give Trump credit for one good thing I've heard... that he's accepting the salary of a dollar.
[5:20:35 PM] Me: Yeah... he didn't run for the position for the money lol
[5:20:40 PM] : Yes, because BLM visitors won't help shape policy.
[5:21:10 PM] Me: They did, along with Al Sharpton and Valerie Jarret, and all the huge list of "radicals" that Obama invited to the WH
[5:21:45 PM] Me: I'm just not going to allow myself to get worked up over something that hasn't happened /yet/. If it does, then I will get upset.
[5:21:53 PM] : I'll tell you this straight up. One of my daughters falls into the LGBT category, and I'll straight up hurt someone if they treat her like a second class citizen because she's different. She's also black, so she's facing a double barrel from people like him.
[5:22:28 PM] Me: ok
[5:22:42 PM] : I don't like the trend we're looking at.
[5:22:52 PM] : I'm concerned about civil rights and liberties.
[5:23:24 PM] Me: I kinda don't think that he'll return people to slavery, XXXX. Or ban gays.
[5:23:30 PM] Me: Or anybody in the LGBT community XD
[5:23:34 PM] Me: Seriously
[5:23:42 PM] Me: You're falling into the drama vacuum.
[5:23:45 PM] : No but indicators are that he's going to roll back certain decisions about how they're treated.
[5:23:53 PM] Me: How? He cannot
[5:23:57 PM] Me: That's what the SC is for
[5:24:05 PM] : It's not a drama thing... it's looking at the politics of his people
[5:24:10 PM] Me: Those decisions, like Roe vs Wade, are set in stone
[5:24:23 PM] Me: They'll never be repealed
[5:24:26 PM] : He outright said he plans to appoint people who will overturn it.
[5:24:31 PM] : or vote to overturn it
[5:24:36 PM] Me: That will never happen and he knows it
[5:24:52 PM] Me: What people say and what actually happens once they're in the WH are two different things.
[5:25:13 PM] Me: That happens in every Presidency. Trump will be no different.
[5:27:26 PM] : If he, against all odds, turns out to be a GOOD president, I'll be happy to say I was wrong. Honestly. I hope to GOD he IS a good President. I hope to all that's holy that he does GOOD for the American people... I won't be surprised if he doesn't... but I WILL happily say he was a good president... IF HE IS.
[5:27:40 PM] Me: Same
[5:27:59 PM] Me: But I refuse to fall into the SJW trap of getting all frothy when nothing has happened.
[5:29:01 PM] : My family has come into the crosshairs of white supremacists before... due to a novel my mother wrote...I've come to seriously dislike those guys.
[5:29:18 PM] Me: They only like other people like them.
[5:30:25 PM] Me: The guy I voted for, I don't think he even sniffed 5% XD
[5:30:39 PM] : Johnson?
[5:30:40 PM] Me: Poor Gary Johnson... one day, a third party will make it!
[5:30:45 PM] Me: Yeah
[5:30:56 PM] Me: I voted for him because I just couldn't vote for Clinton or Trump
[5:31:01 PM] Me: Even if I held my nose
[5:31:07 PM] : I hear that.
[5:31:15 PM] Me: I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN IN HARAMBE!!!


And at that point, I think he realized that I was trolling him a bit because he logged off and hasn't been back since lol!

CenterBHSFan;1824566 wrote:I just had a skype convo a little while ago with one of my coworkers (we are in several groups who work for a gaming company) who is having the same mental traumas due to being a SJW. I couldn't help but pushing some buttons on him.
I'll remove the names to keep privacy.

[5:17:29 PM] : Still... Steve Bannon? REALLY?
[5:17:51 PM] Me: Can't be any worse than Valerie Jarret, IMO
[5:18:44 PM] : But Bannon... I mean.. is the Govt going to be responsible for washing his good wearing sheets?
[5:19:35 PM] Me: I'unno. I don't really feel engaged enough in Trump's presidency to be alarmed about anything until policy is actually done.
[5:19:51 PM] : His White Nationalism ties are disturbing
[5:19:52 PM] Me: But being alarmed at this point is pointless
[5:20:11 PM] Me: Really... is it any more alarming than Obama's BLM invited to the WH ... what 3 times?
[5:20:19 PM] : I WILL give Trump credit for one good thing I've heard... that he's accepting the salary of a dollar.
[5:20:35 PM] Me: Yeah... he didn't run for the position for the money lol
[5:20:40 PM] : Yes, because BLM visitors won't help shape policy.
[5:21:10 PM] Me: They did, along with Al Sharpton and Valerie Jarret, and all the huge list of "radicals" that Obama invited to the WH
[5:21:45 PM] Me: I'm just not going to allow myself to get worked up over something that hasn't happened /yet/. If it does, then I will get upset.
[5:21:53 PM] : I'll tell you this straight up. One of my daughters falls into the LGBT category, and I'll straight up hurt someone if they treat her like a second class citizen because she's different. She's also black, so she's facing a double barrel from people like him.
[5:22:28 PM] Me: ok
[5:22:42 PM] : I don't like the trend we're looking at.
[5:22:52 PM] : I'm concerned about civil rights and liberties.
[5:23:24 PM] Me: I kinda don't think that he'll return people to slavery, XXXX. Or ban gays.
[5:23:30 PM] Me: Or anybody in the LGBT community XD
[5:23:34 PM] Me: Seriously
[5:23:42 PM] Me: You're falling into the drama vacuum.
[5:23:45 PM] : No but indicators are that he's going to roll back certain decisions about how they're treated.
[5:23:53 PM] Me: How? He cannot
[5:23:57 PM] Me: That's what the SC is for
[5:24:05 PM] : It's not a drama thing... it's looking at the politics of his people
[5:24:10 PM] Me: Those decisions, like Roe vs Wade, are set in stone
[5:24:23 PM] Me: They'll never be repealed
[5:24:26 PM] : He outright said he plans to appoint people who will overturn it.
[5:24:31 PM] : or vote to overturn it
[5:24:36 PM] Me: That will never happen and he knows it
[5:24:52 PM] Me: What people say and what actually happens once they're in the WH are two different things.
[5:25:13 PM] Me: That happens in every Presidency. Trump will be no different.
[5:27:26 PM] : If he, against all odds, turns out to be a GOOD president, I'll be happy to say I was wrong. Honestly. I hope to GOD he IS a good President. I hope to all that's holy that he does GOOD for the American people... I won't be surprised if he doesn't... but I WILL happily say he was a good president... IF HE IS.
[5:27:40 PM] Me: Same
[5:27:59 PM] Me: But I refuse to fall into the SJW trap of getting all frothy when nothing has happened.
[5:29:01 PM] : My family has come into the crosshairs of white supremacists before... due to a novel my mother wrote...I've come to seriously dislike those guys.
[5:29:18 PM] Me: They only like other people like them.
[5:30:25 PM] Me: The guy I voted for, I don't think he even sniffed 5% XD
[5:30:39 PM] : Johnson?
[5:30:40 PM] Me: Poor Gary Johnson... one day, a third party will make it!
[5:30:45 PM] Me: Yeah
[5:30:56 PM] Me: I voted for him because I just couldn't vote for Clinton or Trump
[5:31:01 PM] Me: Even if I held my nose
[5:31:07 PM] : I hear that.
[5:31:15 PM] Me: I SHOULD HAVE WRITTEN IN HARAMBE!!!


And at that point, I think he realized that I was trolling him a bit because he logged off and hasn't been back since lol!

I get being mad at someone who hurts your loved ones. Still, this dude is gonna end up in jail someday.

Two interesting stories I hope are not true, as they are not yet confirmed by Trump.
One is John Bolton for SECSTATE. Welp, I guess that means the Neocons are back! Party like it is 2003! Iraq part III here we come! He would be a complete joke and a disaster. He was a tool in the Bush administration and a crazy necon.

The second is Trump may want his kids to get a security clearance before the inauguration. I don't know the level, but still, this does raise an eyebrow about how the material will be disseminated. I do hope nothing goes out via email. What is the chain of custody? They are not going into the administration, it may set a bad policy going forward.
Also, how does this ensure that the blind trust stays blind?

Wolves of Babylon;1824391 wrote:Just watched his 60 minutes interview. I think liberals will be surprised in a positive way and conservatives, especially social conservatives may be disappointed.



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Agreed, except on the whole Roe v. Wade thing. His logic regarding same-sex marriage should also apply to Roe v. Wade. Both are done, over with, and law of the land. Yet, he wants to overturn one and leave the other? Huh?

ptown_trojans_1;1824568 wrote:Two interesting stories I hope are not true, as they are not yet confirmed by Trump.
One is John Bolton for SECSTATE. ..

You can add Ann Coulter as Press Secretary.

ptown_trojans_1;1824569 wrote:Agreed, except on the whole Roe v. Wade thing. His logic regarding same-sex marriage should also apply to Roe v. Wade. Both are done, over with, and law of the land. Yet, he wants to overturn one and leave the other? Huh?

He can't change the law but ROe V Wade didn't mandate fed govt fund abortions.

Con_Alma;1824570 wrote:You can add Ann Coulter as Press Secretary.

thatwouldbeawesome

Fingers still crossed that Milo gets press secretary.

ptown_trojans_1;1824568 wrote:...
One is John Bolton for SECSTATE. ...

Guiliani may have some play in this decision.

ptown_trojans_1;1824568 wrote:Two interesting stories I hope are not true, as they are not yet confirmed by Trump.
One is John Bolton for SECSTATE. Welp, I guess that means the Neocons are back! Party like it is 2003! Iraq part III here we come! He would be a complete joke and a disaster. He was a tool in the Bush administration and a crazy necon.

The second is Trump may want his kids to get a security clearance before the inauguration. I don't know the level, but still, this does raise an eyebrow about how the material will be disseminated. I do hope nothing goes out via email. What is the chain of custody? They are not going into the administration, it may set a bad policy going forward.
Also, how does this ensure that the blind trust stays blind?

Lol at the irony of a Hillary shill bringing up chain of custody and emails.

Con_Alma;1824600 wrote:Guiliani may have some play in this decision.

Yeah, he is the other name. He would be bad as he is also a necon hack, but just not as much as Bolton.

superman;1824601 wrote:Lol at the irony of a Hillary shill bringing up chain of custody and emails.

Hey, exactly. He should be held to the same standard with classified material as her. The story has yet to be fully confirmed, I'll also add.
If the kids are going to get any classified materials, their exact roles should be explained. They cannot be both working for the business and in the Government.