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May 14, 2015 8:14 AM
I don't give a shit about any of this evidence conversation, but the fact that Brady was suspended a single second is a poor judgment by the league, IMO.
May 14, 2015 8:14am
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May 14, 2015 8:35 AM
Laley23;1728832 wrote:How does someone say that the text messages and testimony are not circumstantial evidence?

It may be weak as hell, but it's there.
No one said anything about testimony.
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May 14, 2015 8:35 AM
Fly4Fun;1728835 wrote:I have WebFire on ignore, and it sounds like I'm not missing out on anything remotely intelligent.
I'm so sad.
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May 14, 2015 8:55 AM
The Wells report in the Conclusion section, paragraph 13, page 228 states, the following, " In sum, the data did not provide us a basis for us to determine with absolute certainty whether there was or was not tampering as analysis of such data ultimately is dependent upon assumptions and information that is not certain."

Enough said.
May 14, 2015 8:55am
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May 14, 2015 9:12 AM
GOONx19;1728836 wrote:I don't give a shit about any of this evidence conversation, but the fact that Brady was suspended a single second is a poor judgment by the league, IMO.
May 14, 2015 9:12am
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May 14, 2015 9:23 AM
WebFire;1728844 wrote:The Wells report in the Conclusion section, paragraph 13, page 228 states, the following, " In sum, the data did not provide us a basis for us to determine with absolute certainty whether there was or was not tampering as analysis of such data ultimately is dependent upon assumptions and information that is not certain."

Enough said.
So, circumstantial evidence? Got it.
May 14, 2015 9:23am
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May 14, 2015 9:25 AM
Laley23;1728832 wrote:How does someone say that the text messages and testimony are not circumstantial evidence?
Because Webbie has absolutely no comprehension of what circumstantial evidence is, duh.

Yet we're all wrong here and Webbie is right :RpS_lol:
May 14, 2015 9:25am
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May 14, 2015 9:26 AM
WebFire;1728844 wrote:The Wells report in the Conclusion section, paragraph 13, page 228 states, the following, " In sum, the data did not provide us a basis for us to determine with absolute certainty whether there was or was not tampering as analysis of such data ultimately is dependent upon assumptions and information that is not certain."

Enough said.
That's the definition of circumstantial evidence. LOL at you thinking otherwise.

I'm really enjoying how big of an idiot you're making yourself out to be on this thread.
May 14, 2015 9:26am
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May 14, 2015 1:23 PM
Good God....Pats are REALLY reaching here.....

The Patriots say Jim McNally referred to himself as the
"deflator" because he was trying to lose weight. pic.twitter.com/Hem37MZIDH


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2464565-deflategate-key-takeaways-from-patriots-lawyers-response-to-ted-wells-report?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national5
May 14, 2015 1:23pm
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May 14, 2015 1:25 PM
BR1986FB;1728915 wrote:Good God....Pats are REALLY reaching here.....

The Patriots say Jim McNally referred to himself as the
"deflator" because he was trying to lose weight. pic.twitter.com/Hem37MZIDH


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2464565-deflategate-key-takeaways-from-patriots-lawyers-response-to-ted-wells-report?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national5
They just need to shut up and be quiet. The more they talk, the deeper this shit storm becomes.
May 14, 2015 1:25pm
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May 14, 2015 1:42 PM
http://wellsreportcontext.com/

If even half of this is true, the NFL is in trouble.
May 14, 2015 1:42pm
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May 14, 2015 2:00 PM
BR1986FB;1728915 wrote:Good God....Pats are REALLY reaching here.....

The Patriots say Jim McNally referred to himself as the
"deflator" because he was trying to lose weight. pic.twitter.com/Hem37MZIDH


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2464565-deflategate-key-takeaways-from-patriots-lawyers-response-to-ted-wells-report?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national5
And for another text "explanation", they said something along the line of just because one person referred to "tom" in his text and the reply said "he", that doesn't mean "he" equals "tom" and that was actually referring to a completely different person.

Lord, that was a fucking stupid attempt to refute something, lol.
May 14, 2015 2:00pm
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May 14, 2015 2:27 PM
Heretic;1728949 wrote:And for another text "explanation", they said something along the line of just because one person referred to "tom" in his text and the reply said "he", that doesn't mean "he" equals "tom" and that was actually referring to a completely different person.

Lord, that was a fucking stupid attempt to refute something, lol.
Havent heard this much BS about wording since....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4XT-l-_3y0
May 14, 2015 2:27pm
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May 14, 2015 2:54 PM
BR1986FB;1728915 wrote:Good God....Pats are REALLY reaching here.....

The Patriots say Jim McNally referred to himself as the
"deflator" because he was trying to lose weight. pic.twitter.com/Hem37MZIDH


http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2464565-deflategate-key-takeaways-from-patriots-lawyers-response-to-ted-wells-report?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=programming-national5
I lol'd at the whole site. The Wells report was likely complete shit but this is just straight retarded.
May 14, 2015 2:54pm
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May 14, 2015 10:51 PM
@AP: BREAKING: NFL: Commissioner Roger Goodell will hear the appeal of Tom Brady's suspension

Makes total sense
May 14, 2015 10:51pm
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May 14, 2015 11:15 PM
They should just go ahead and skip this step, and go right to court.
May 14, 2015 11:15pm
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May 14, 2015 11:27 PM
lhslep134;1728856 wrote:That's the definition of circumstantial evidence. LOL at you thinking otherwise.

I'm really enjoying how big of an idiot you're making yourself out to be on this thread.
Circumstantial evidence still has to lead you to information that is certain enough to make an assumption. Again, the texts do not lead to information that allows you to make assumptions that are being assumed. We can ONLY assume Tom is a dick and likes less air in the ball than what was provided.

See my red rock above.
May 14, 2015 11:27pm
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May 15, 2015 5:23 AM
The majority of OC idiots and radio call-in dumbasses will never take the time to read the Pat's context reply to the Wells Report...in their eyes Brady is a cheater and should be hung from his deflated balls. In reality this man should be applauded for standing up to a witch hunt perpetuated by petty jealousy because all the guy does is wins wins wins and Fuchs the hottest chicks on the planet. I can identify with that.
May 15, 2015 5:23am
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May 15, 2015 7:01 AM
Tiernan;1729174 wrote:The majority of OC idiots and radio call-in dumbasses will never take the time to read the Pat's context reply to the Wells Report...
i posted it on this very page?
May 15, 2015 7:01am
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May 15, 2015 7:32 AM
Tiernan;1729174 wrote:The majority of OC idiots and radio call-in dumbasses will never take the time to read the Pat's context reply to the Wells Report...in their eyes Brady is a cheater and should be hung from his deflated balls. In reality this man should be applauded for standing up to a witch hunt perpetuated by petty jealousy because all the guy does is wins wins wins and Fuchs the hottest chicks on the planet. I can identify with that.
Interestingly enough, you posted this in about the exact style I'd expect a radio call-in dumbass to sound when calling in their opinion, at least in the NE part of the country.
May 15, 2015 7:32am
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May 15, 2015 7:51 AM
Did you read it Hairydic? The context rebuttal punches so many holes in the Wells Report that Goodell should be fired (again) for his total lack of effective management. He is using this entire episode to deflect attention away from all the ineptitude he is responsible for the past couple of years. Brady is wasting his time appealing to this Clown, Goodell is gonna railroad ya man.
May 15, 2015 7:51am
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May 15, 2015 8:41 AM
Have a feeling goodell chose to be the person to hear the appeal so he can have Brady win the appeal and get some good publicity for once.


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May 15, 2015 8:41am
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May 15, 2015 8:56 AM
Tiernan;1729188 wrote:Did you read it Hairydic?
Sounds like someone must be peeking in his window at night to have that kind of info?
May 15, 2015 8:56am
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May 15, 2015 9:10 AM
Tiernan;1729188 wrote:Did you read it Hairydic? The context rebuttal punches so many holes in the Wells Report that Goodell should be fired (again) for his total lack of effective management. He is using this entire episode to deflect attention away from all the ineptitude he is responsible for the past couple of years. Brady is wasting his time appealing to this Clown, Goodell is gonna railroad ya man.
I've read both and I think the Patriots rebuttal is much better than the Wells report, except for the whole "deflator" being about weight loss BS.
May 15, 2015 9:10am
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May 15, 2015 10:04 AM
sleeper;1729214 wrote:I've read both and I think the Patriots rebuttal is much better than the Wells report, except for the whole "deflator" being about weight loss BS.
Yeah that was dumb.
May 15, 2015 10:04am