QuakerOats;1712060 wrote:I presume you are just as incensed about blacks rapping about raping women and killing cops.

since you are so indifferent to the lynching of blacks

isadore;1712077 wrote:no they had ethnically cleansed the OU SAE. At the time of the incident there were no African Americans that were members of their chapter.

This is exactly what I am talking about. "Ethnic cleansing"? Are you serious? These idiots sang a racist song. They're expelled and their chapter is closed; that's fine. But now people are going to start equating some dumbasses to Nazi Final Solution SS battalions. You sound so smug it's not funny. A week ago, you'd have no knowledge of a frat called SAE at Oklahoma. Now, because you've read a news piece somewhere, you are schooled on the history of organization and its shortcomings. Anyone who thinks these boys shouldn't have their testes nailed to the wall is complacent in racism too, right?

Dr Winston O'Boogie;1712082 wrote:This is exactly what I am talking about. "Ethnic cleansing"? Are you serious? These idiots sang a racist song. They're expelled and their chapter is closed; that's fine. But now people are going to start equating some dumbasses to Nazi Final Solution SS battalions. You sound so smug it's not funny. A week ago, you'd have no knowledge of a frat called SAE at Oklahoma. Now, because you've read a news piece somewhere, you are schooled on the history of organization and its shortcomings. Anyone who thinks these boys shouldn't have their testes nailed to the wall is complacent in racism too, right?

gosh a ruddies. Over a decade ago they allowed two African Americans to join. Since then none. That is ethnic cleansing in practice. And their song that is taught to pledges just reflects the philosophy that supports the practice. I knew who SAE was since college and this incident was not a surprise. It is just returning to its found principles as the one fraternity originating in the Antebellum South.

*New drinking game! Every time in this thread isadore uses "gosh a ruddies" take a drink!

Tiernan never mind since you're already drunk.

isadore;1712086 wrote:gosh a ruddies. Over a decade ago they allowed two African Americans to join. Since then none. That is ethnic cleansing in practice. And their song that is taught to pledges just reflects the philosophy that supports the practice. I knew who SAE was since college and this incident was not a surprise. It is just returning to its found principles as the one fraternity originating in the Antebellum South.

Well you've got it all figured out. For the rest of us, my point is that the guys who took part in this should suffer consequences. I just think our society has gone wacko in how we all act outraged at these things when in reality, all of us have probably done things that would look horrible if filmed in a 10 second clip and published online. Even you Isadore.

Dr Winston O'Boogie;1712089 wrote:Well you've got it all figured out. For the rest of us, my point is that the guys who took part in this should suffer consequences. I just think our society has gone wacko in how we all act outraged at these things when in reality, all of us have probably done things that would look horrible if filmed in a 10 second clip and published online. Even you Isadore.

gosh a ruddies, you really want to have it both ways. Paying lip service to punishing them then repeatedly trying to mitigate what they have done. Calling them "boys" They are men not boys, they are adults. Some people enlist in our military and die for their country at that age. Some others commit murders and end up on death row at that age. They are adults, not boys with the responsibilities of being adults.
Intimating they are taken out of context with repeatedly talking about "10 second clips." The context of these comments could be followed from the learning of this song to the singing it. It is blatant racism through and through. And they as adults are responsible for their actions.

Dr. 7 posts on SAE incident
5 times refers to kid or kids
1 time to boys
in effort to excuse actions.

isadore;1712090 wrote:gosh a ruddies, you really want to have it both ways. Paying lip service to punishing them then repeatedly trying to mitigate what they have done. Calling them "boys" They are men not boys, they are adults. Some people enlist in our military and die for their country at that age. Some others commit murders and end up on death row at that age. They are adults, not boys with the responsibilities of being adults.
Intimating they are taken out of context with repeatedly talking about "10 second clips." The context of these comments could be followed from the learning of this song to the singing it. It is blatant racism through and through. And they as adults are responsible for their actions.

They are being punished for their actions....

isadore;1712090 wrote:gosh a ruddies, you really want to have it both ways. Paying lip service to punishing them then repeatedly trying to mitigate what they have done. Calling them "boys" They are men not boys, they are adults. Some people enlist in our military and die for their country at that age. Some others commit murders and end up on death row at that age. They are adults, not boys with the responsibilities of being adults.
Intimating they are taken out of context with repeatedly talking about "10 second clips." The context of these comments could be followed from the learning of this song to the singing it. It is blatant racism through and through. And they as adults are responsible for their actions.

Dr. 7 posts on SAE incident
5 times refers to kid or kids
1 time to boys
in effort to excuse actions.

I don't excuse their actions at all. They are expelled and their house is gone. Those are the consequences of their offenses. I just wish the rest of us would climb off our high horses just because we've been lucky enough to have never been caught with our pants down.

Fab4Runner;1712092 wrote:They are being punished for their actions....

gosh a ruddies.
Being expelled from the University of Oklahoma.
With their bucks they can get a better university
the real punishment is the one mr. doctor boogie wants to mitigate

isadore;1712077 wrote:no they had ethnically cleansed the OU SAE. At the time of the incident there were no African Americans that were members of their chapter.

I'm sure there are no all black fraternities either. We celebrate black colleges, black high schools, black organizations, but not white ones. Not racist though!

isadore;1712078 wrote:you and the SAEs do your best to deprive them of both..

Feels good to have the power to suppress an entire race. I'm just not sure I have the time to do so.

Dr Winston O'Boogie;1712095 wrote:I don't excuse their actions at all. They are expelled and their house is gone. Those are the consequences of their offenses. I just wish the rest of us would climb off our high horses just because we've been lucky enough to have never been caught with our pants down.

Go a ruddies Mr. Doctor Boogie you are blaming the witnesses for being offended by this disgusting behavior. And for realizing this is not 10 seconds of bad behavior by "kids." It is an adult who over an extended period of time made decisions that lead to this clip. Joining a racist fraternity, learning it despicable songs that express not just racism but an endorsement of lynching, singing them and then leading the singing.

isadore;1712090 wrote:gosh a ruddies, you really want to have it both ways. Paying lip service to punishing them then repeatedly trying to mitigate what they have done. Calling them "boys" They are men not boys, they are adults. Some people enlist in our military and die for their country at that age. Some others commit murders and end up on death row at that age. They are adults, not boys with the responsibilities of being adults.
Intimating they are taken out of context with repeatedly talking about "10 second clips." The context of these comments could be followed from the learning of this song to the singing it. It is blatant racism through and through. And they as adults are responsible for their actions.

Dr. 7 posts on SAE incident
5 times refers to kid or kids
1 time to boys
in effort to excuse actions.

Trayvon Martin? Boy or adult? Micheal Brown? Boy or adult?

Reality? Dead thugs.

isadore;1712098 wrote:gosh a ruddies.
Being expelled from the University of Oklahoma.
With their bucks they can get a better university
the real punishment is the one mr. doctor boogie wants to mitigate

What would you propose as an alternative punishment? Lynching?

isadore;1712103 wrote:Go a ruddies Mr. Doctor Boogie you are blaming the witnesses for being offended by this disgusting behavior. And for realizing this is not 10 seconds of bad behavior by "kids." It is an adult who over an extended period of time made decisions that lead to this clip. Joining a racist fraternity, learning it despicable songs that express not just racism but an endorsement of lynching, singing them and then leading the singing.

Which they are being punished for...

Fab4Runner;1712037 wrote:I agree with both of these.

I concur. Too bad a person has to sift through all the politards and the !!!HOT TAEKS!!! to find the handful of views typed by people actually using their brain to make logical conclusions.

sleeper;1712101 wrote:I'm sure there are no all black fraternities either. We celebrate black colleges, black high schools, black organizations, but not white ones. Not racist though!

gosh a ruddies let me educate you little fella. Black organizations like black colleges, black fraternities came into existence because whites would not allow blacks into their institutions because of guys like Parker Rice and you.

sleeper;1712104 wrote:Trayvon Martin? Boy or adult? Micheal Brown? Boy or adult?

Reality? Dead thugs.

you should not call them boy, that is racist.

isadore;1712110 wrote:you should not call them boy, that is racist.

They are dead thugs. The media portrayed them as innocent boys but the reality is now they are rightfully labeled as they should be; dead criminals thugs.

isadore;1712109 wrote:gosh a ruddies let me educate you little fella. Black organizations like black colleges, black fraternities came into existence because whites would not allow blacks into their institutions because of guys like Parker Rice and you.

And they still exist as RACIST organizations. Glad to see you support racist organizations who deprive young Americans of quality education because of the color of their skin. Gosh a ruddies.

sleeper;1712105 wrote:What would you propose as an alternative punishment? Lynching?

lynching is illegal. I guess we will just have to see what the long term effects are on these folks.

sleeper;1712112 wrote:And they still exist as RACIST organizations. Glad to see you support racist organizations who deprive young Americans of quality education because of the color of their skin. Gosh a ruddies.

created by white actions.

sleeper;1712111 wrote:They are dead thugs. The media portrayed them as innocent boys but the reality is now they are rightfully labeled as they should be; dead criminals thugs.

and Parker Rice should be labelled as an irredeemable racist.

isadore;1712109 wrote:gosh a ruddies let me educate you little fella. Black organizations like black colleges, black fraternities came into existence because whites would not allow blacks into their institutions because of guys like Parker Rice and you.

So then all the black schools can go away now since they can go to schools that accept all races now.

Fab4Runner;1712106 wrote:Which they are being punished for...

well the university punishment are pretty limited. But maybe the long range effects will bring something closer to justice.