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WebFire
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May 20, 2015 2:04pm
Correct. Think that was obvious enough.wildcats20;1729815 wrote:They aren't kicking from the 15. The snap comes from the 15.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
May 20, 2015 2:06pm
They are making the change for one season and then the (owners I think) will vote to keep or reject the rule permanently.HitsRus;1729883 wrote:I really don't mind the changes, but I wish they'd quit f***** with game every year. Moreover, if they are going to make major rule changes they should put it out there a year in advance so teams can make personnel changes....as it is some teams are going to be advantaged and others disadvantgaged without the opportunity to make changes via free agency or the draft.
Also, I think if you are going to make PAT's harder, then you should make going for two harder also, otherwise you are shifting the balance between them....I guess if you want more people going for 2, the changes are good, but you are changing the very core of the gamne.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
May 20, 2015 2:09pm
A ball deflator for the kicking balls.Automatik;1729884 wrote:What personnel changes would be made due to moving PATs back?
wildcats20
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May 20, 2015 2:13pm
Kick from the 15 vs snap from the 15.WebFire;1729885 wrote:Correct. Think that was obvious enough.
Not similar at all. Thanks though.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
May 20, 2015 3:07pm
Yeah, I get that. Everyone knew what it meant. Thanks though.wildcats20;1729889 wrote:Kick from the 15 vs snap from the 15.
Not similar at all. Thanks though.
HitsRus
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May 20, 2015 4:30pm
Technically, yes,.... but league sources expect this to be a permanent change.They are making the change for one season and then the (owners I think) will vote to keep or reject the rule permanently.
I was speaking in general for major rules changes....for instance the change a few years ago when kickoffs were moved forward resulting in a preponderance of balls kicked into the endzone resulting in touchbacks. Teams that invested in kickers with big booming legs were rewarded...teams that had allocated money towards kick return specialists were hurt. In the world of salary caps, changing rules affect salary allocations. one thing that I had heard related to this, is that with the risk/reward ratio changing in PATs vs. 2 point conversions, teams will devote more time to two point conversions...and more money to "2 point specialists" (whatever that may be).What personnel changes would be made due to moving PATs back?
You will also not be able to fake an extra point and go for 2....unless you want to take a 13 yard penalty.
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jmog
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May 20, 2015 4:44pm
2-point specialists make me think of Tebow and T. Pryor type QBs. Those that can't throw worth a crap but put them less than 5 yards from the end zone and they can either run it in or dump it to a WR/TE/RB that is less than 5 yards from them.HitsRus;1729902 wrote:Technically, yes,.... but league sources expect this to be a permanent change.
I was speaking in general for major rules changes....for instance the change a few years ago when kickoffs were moved forward resulting in a preponderance of balls kicked into the endzone resulting in touchbacks. Teams that invested in kickers with big booming legs were rewarded...teams that had allocated money towards kick return specialists were hurt. In the world of salary caps, changing rules affect salary allocations. one thing that I had heard related to this, is that with the risk/reward ratio changing in PATs vs. 2 point conversions, teams will devote more time to two point conversions...and more money to "2 point specialists" (whatever that may be).
You will also not be able to fake an extra point and go for 2....unless you want to take a 13 yard penalty.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
May 20, 2015 4:46pm
I remember one fake EP for a two point conversion. Pretty sure it was the first 2 pt convo in the NFL by the Browns.HitsRus;1729902 wrote:Technically, yes,.... but league sources expect this to be a permanent change.
I was speaking in general for major rules changes....for instance the change a few years ago when kickoffs were moved forward resulting in a preponderance of balls kicked into the endzone resulting in touchbacks. Teams that invested in kickers with big booming legs were rewarded...teams that had allocated money towards kick return specialists were hurt. In the world of salary caps, changing rules affect salary allocations. one thing that I had heard related to this, is that with the risk/reward ratio changing in PATs vs. 2 point conversions, teams will devote more time to two point conversions...and more money to "2 point specialists" (whatever that may be).
You will also not be able to fake an extra point and go for 2....unless you want to take a 13 yard penalty.
Teams that go for two line up and do so traditionally.
As for a team putting $$ into a 2 point specialist...I just dont see it. Maybe a team will use a backup QB, like above in Tebow or Pryor, or whatever but I dont see a huge difference.
I get what you are saying and the only point I will give you is a team who spent $$$ on a return specialist because the touchbacks did hurt them.
Automatik
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May 21, 2015 11:54am
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thavoice
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May 21, 2015 12:01pm
Alternate uniforms.Automatik;1730163 wrote:#1
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12913780/uni-watch-power-rankings-nfl-best-worst-uniforms
Yeah. Worst of all time.
Mulva
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May 21, 2015 12:30pm
That might be the worst list I've ever seen on any topic ever.
Automatik
Posts: 14,632
May 21, 2015 1:09pm
Yes, they are horrific.thavoice;1730167 wrote:Alternate uniforms.
Yeah. Worst of all time.
I'm all about the classic look though. I've always been a fan of the Raiders unis.
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thavoice
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May 21, 2015 1:35pm
As stupid as it sounds, the stadium usually had more electricity when they came out in those. Been there 2-3 times when they wore them. It may be because they usually only wear those in some of the bigger prime time games but the difference was noticeable.Automatik;1730191 wrote:Yes, they are horrific.
I'm all about the classic look though. I've always been a fan of the Raiders unis.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
May 21, 2015 3:46pm
I don't disagree with much in the top 15. I would Bills a lot lower, and probably move New England to 15. But other than that, it's not far off.Mulva;1730179 wrote:That might be the worst list I've ever seen on any topic ever.
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thavoice
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May 22, 2015 11:34am
Talk about bad 'lists'. I see wher the NFL network ranks the top 100 NFL players.Mulva;1730179 wrote:That might be the worst list I've ever seen on any topic ever.
Per season.
Now..if it is per decade.....yeah, but top 100 per SEASON? Seems a bit....like overkill and a time filler.
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
May 22, 2015 9:50pm
You're a network covering nothing but Pro Football, definitely need to fill time.thavoice;1730451 wrote:Talk about bad 'lists'. I see wher the NFL network ranks the top 100 NFL players.
Per season.
Now..if it is per decade.....yeah, but top 100 per SEASON? Seems a bit....like overkill and a time filler.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
May 22, 2015 9:50pm
Lol it's obviously a time killer.thavoice;1730451 wrote:Talk about bad 'lists'. I see wher the NFL network ranks the top 100 NFL players.
Per season.
Now..if it is per decade.....yeah, but top 100 per SEASON? Seems a bit....like overkill and a time filler.
wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 27, 2015 12:13pm
ACL bros
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friendfromlowry
Posts: 6,239
May 27, 2015 1:24pm
Texans get the nod for Hard Knocks
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jmog
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May 27, 2015 4:47pm
Thank God its not the Browns.friendfromlowry;1731141 wrote:Texans get the nod for Hard Knocks
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
May 28, 2015 11:57pm
AP comes off like a little bitch. Your fault you signed the contract dumbass
Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
May 29, 2015 12:18am
Yup.
Bitching to the media about the non-guaranteed contracts. Maybe he should call up his union rep, and bitch him ouy, since they negotiated this. deal. Same with all those guys who bitch about the Commissioner having final say in everything.
Bitching to the media about the non-guaranteed contracts. Maybe he should call up his union rep, and bitch him ouy, since they negotiated this. deal. Same with all those guys who bitch about the Commissioner having final say in everything.
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friendfromlowry
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May 29, 2015 6:09am
The Vikings should run him into the ground this year.
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BR1986FB
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Jun 5, 2015 9:47am
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thavoice
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Jun 5, 2015 11:25am
Good stuff.BR1986FB;1732637 wrote:Alrighty then.....
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25205413/broncos-enforce-fart-tax-in-meetings-von-miller-is-fined-most-frequently
We had a guy get smoked for busting ass in formation too many times!