So Who's The Quarterback Next Year?

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Jan 16, 2015 9:13 AM
bases_loaded;1696907 wrote:Jones added a dimension to the offense that JT couldn't. He took the lid off the defense, which is part of why Elliott ran for 200 yards in the final 3 games.
Devin Smiths numbers for the year disagree with your assertion that JT couldn't take the lid off a defense. Smith was catching bombs all year from both JT and Cardale.
Jan 16, 2015 9:13am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:14 AM
centralbucksfan;1696912 wrote:Thats bullshit considering the numbers JT put up passing and running. As well as the numbers the offense put up overall for this team. Miller did it, JT did it and now Jones did it. All pretty consistant when you look at the overall numbers.
We can all agree no matter what QB is playing, the offense is putting up big numbers. Cardale has a cannon for an arm, JT doesn't. JT's big pass plays were short routes that the WR took the distance. Cardale's were passes in the air for 50 yards. Hopefully Cardale will learn to put his hands on the laces though. That fumble against Oregon won't happen if he has the ball by the laces.
Jan 16, 2015 9:14am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:15 AM
All three are great...Jones going to get all the spring reps and I don't see him losing his job. Braxton may not be able to play again with that shoulder...JT is good but you can't teach 6'5" and 250 lbs.
Jan 16, 2015 9:15am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:27 AM
centralbucksfan;1696914 wrote:And thats just it, you can't do this.
Actually, yes you can. Take his average over the last 3 games and multiply it by another 12. Real hard, Einstein... I just didn't care to do it. Jeezus.
Jan 16, 2015 9:27am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:33 AM
Even if you do the math to extrapolate it out to 12 games, IMHO Cardale played a much tougher schedule. JT had Penn State and MSU, but he also had Kent st, Maryland, Rutgers, Illinois, Indiana and Michigan.

Although I don't get the people who act like JT can't throw. He may not have the arm Cardale has but he completed his share of deep balls.
Jan 16, 2015 9:33am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:36 AM
ernest_t_bass;1696921 wrote:Actually, yes you can. Take his average over the last 3 games and multiply it by another 12. Real hard, Einstein... I just didn't care to do it. Jeezus.
The math can be done, but it does not mean anything because:

Ore, Ala, Wis > Cincy, PennSt, et al.
plus the offensive line was completely different in ability from beginning to end of year.
Jan 16, 2015 9:36am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:37 AM
What Fathobbit said....
Jan 16, 2015 9:37am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:37 AM
Sonofanump;1696925 wrote:The math can be done, but it does not mean anything because:

Ore, Ala, Wis > Cincy, PennSt, et al.
plus the offensive line was completely different in ability from beginning to end of year.
Who gives a shit. It's not what I'm asking.
Jan 16, 2015 9:37am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:42 AM
Sonofanump;1696925 wrote:The math can be done, but it does not mean anything because:

Ore, Ala, Wis > Cincy, PennSt, et al.
plus the offensive line was completely different in ability from beginning to end of year.

LOL for explaining that. Obviously, some comments fly over peoples heads...way over! ;)
Jan 16, 2015 9:42am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:44 AM
ernest_t_bass;1696927 wrote:Who gives a shit. It's not what I'm asking.
go across the hallway and ask the algebra teacher.
Jan 16, 2015 9:44am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:45 AM
FatHobbit;1696924 wrote:Even if you do the math to extrapolate it out to 12 games, IMHO Cardale played a much tougher schedule. JT had Penn State and MSU, but he also had Kent st, Maryland, Rutgers, Illinois, Indiana and Michigan.

Although I don't get the people who act like JT can't throw. He may not have the arm Cardale has but he completed his share of deep balls.
And as mentioned, against those teams, were others, the oline, the defense/line, the WR, the RB all playing as well as they did in the last 3 games? I would say a definatively, NO they were not.

I have always been a beleiver in that the QB gets too much scrutiny when a team doesn't do well and they get to much credit for a teams success. Everyone wants to crown Jones. Yes, he did play well. Myself..I would crown the offensive and defensive lines as well as Ez for the success in those 3 games.
Jan 16, 2015 9:45am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:48 AM
bases_loaded;1696916 wrote:JT's big pass plays were short routes that the WR took the distance. Cardale's were passes in the air for 50 yards.
This couldn't be more wrong, lol. He hit 2 bombs alone against Michigan State that were dead on the money to Smith. I know he had quite a few other deep balls to Smith as well but I'm in my phone so not easy to look them up.
Jan 16, 2015 9:48am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:48 AM
centralbucksfan;1696933 wrote:LOL for explaining that. Obviously, some comments fly over peoples heads...way over! ;)
No, not really. Any idiot knows CJ played better competition. I'm just curious of the extrapolated stats.

Sonofanump;1696936 wrote:go across the hallway and ask the algebra teacher.
Jan 16, 2015 9:48am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:52 AM
Let the records show that I want Cardale as the starter.
Jan 16, 2015 9:52am
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Jan 16, 2015 9:56 AM
ernest_t_bass;1696927 wrote:Who gives a shit. It's not what I'm asking.
Just by multiplying what he did in 3 games by 4, Cardale would have been 184/300 for 2968 yards 15 tds 8 picks, 360 yards rushing and 4 tds.

Just for fun, I did the same thing with Zeke. He would have had 2784 yards and 32 tds.
Jan 16, 2015 9:56am
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Jan 16, 2015 10:01 AM
This is a great problem to have. I really don't care who's the starter next year because I think they all will lead OSU to a title. However, Jones is my choice simply because I think he has a better arm and is a hard nosed runner, which at the college level is hard to stop. I also think Jones is the only one who will have an NFL career.
Jan 16, 2015 10:01am
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Jan 16, 2015 10:03 AM
FatHobbit;1696947 wrote:Just by multiplying what he did in 3 games by 4, Cardale would have been 184/300 for 2968 yards 15 tds 8 picks, 360 yards rushing and 4 tds.

Just for fun, I did the same thing with Zeke. He would have had 2784 yards and 32 tds.
Damn... I think I'm most excited for Zeke next year. Given his current confidence, shit will be unreal.
Jan 16, 2015 10:03am
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Jan 16, 2015 10:05 AM
I have complete trust in Urb and the staff to make the decision.

That being said, I'm with sleeper. Seeing Cardale bulldoze over linebackers fires me the fuck up and I want to see that for another season. JT will still get is chance in the future.

I've completely changed my tune regarding Braxton from earlier in the season. He's the odd man out. I've enjoyed his time as a Buckeye, but 2 fingers!
Jan 16, 2015 10:05am
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Jan 16, 2015 10:07 AM
Automatik;1696955 wrote:I have complete trust in Urb and the staff to make the decision.
Above all else, this^^^
Jan 16, 2015 10:07am
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Jan 16, 2015 10:08 AM
centralbucksfan;1696937 wrote:And as mentioned, against those teams, were others, the oline, the defense/line, the WR, the RB all playing as well as they did in the last 3 games? I would say a definatively, NO they were not.
I can agree with that. I'm still in shock with how well the team played the last 3 games. I don't want to take away from what JT did in the regular season. But I do think Cardale played great in the last three. Much better than I expected and I just don't see how he can't be the starter next year.

centralbucksfan;1696937 wrote:I have always been a beleiver in that the QB gets too much scrutiny when a team doesn't do well and they get to much credit for a teams success.
This is the truth.
Jan 16, 2015 10:08am
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Jan 16, 2015 10:08 AM
Terry_Tate;1696941 wrote:This couldn't be more wrong, lol. He hit 2 bombs alone against Michigan State that were dead on the money to Smith. I know he had quite a few other deep balls to Smith as well but I'm in my phone so not easy to look them up.
Amazing that people think JT can't throw long or doesn't have an arm. They are comparing him to Jones, who has exceptional arm strength! Most converstations about during year were about JT and Miller and how Miller never throw the long ball as well as JT or had the touch. Now its like JT can't throw the long ball. When in fact, he was VERY good laying the ball out for our WR. Amazing that people have such short memories!
Jan 16, 2015 10:08am
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Jan 16, 2015 10:11 AM
I think this is decent.

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Jan 16, 2015 10:11am
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Jan 16, 2015 10:12 AM
Automatik;1696955 wrote:I've completely changed my tune regarding Braxton from earlier in the season. He's the odd man out. I've enjoyed his time as a Buckeye, but 2 fingers!
Braxton was a stud the entire time he was at OSU. I would not be sad if he is the starter next year. He did everything he could with class. If he does end up going somewhere else I will be a bandwagon fan of that team as long as we're not playing them.
Jan 16, 2015 10:12am
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Jan 16, 2015 10:12 AM
FatHobbit;1696957 wrote:I can agree with that. I'm still in shock with how well the team played the last 3 games. I don't want to take away from what JT did in the regular season. But I do think Cardale played great in the last three. Much better than I expected and I just don't see how he can't be the starter next year.


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And I think thats a HUGE part of the facination and love for Jones right now. No one, absolutely no one expected this. I think everyone would have been happy with the Big Ten title win and just getting in the playoffs. Then to go on and win it all, its a great story. And kudos to Jones for doign what he did. I just dont' thnk you can discount what JT did over 12 games. The kid stepped in 2 weeks before the season and guided OSU to an 11-1 record, shattered records on the way. He helped, big time, put OSU in the position to do what they did. The season wasn't just 3 games.
Jan 16, 2015 10:12am
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Jan 16, 2015 10:14 AM
I just saw on 11w Cris Carter's take on the situation and honestly it makes the most sense...

Braxton starter
Cardale backup

JT transfers(Houston)
Jan 16, 2015 10:14am