If Jones were smart, he would declare. Somebody will take him...probably in the 4th round or so. If Jones stays, I doubt he plays. What an amazing run by him.

Just my own prediction, but I think Jones and Miller both transfer.

JT starts in 2015.

Automatik;1692281 wrote:Just my own prediction, but I think Jones and Miller both transfer.

JT starts in 2015.

I actually agree with this. Could see Jones staying but wouldn't be shocked to see him transfer somewhere to sit a year since it's mandatory then be the starter. Houston with Tom Herman seems like the perfect destination. I think he's shown he can be a starter so won't want to sit for the rest of his career

Terry_Tate;1692283 wrote:I actually agree with this. Could see Jones staying but wouldn't be shocked to see him transfer somewhere to sit a year since it's mandatory then be the starter. Houston with Tom Herman seems like the perfect destination. I think he's shown he can be a starter so won't want to sit for the rest of his career

Ha! I think that's an understatement!

If he plays like he has vs. Oregon, his stock will never be higher and should declare. But lets pretend for some reason they're all there next year. It's possible that OSU could have 4/5 QB's that could start for almost every single other Big10 school. Miller, JT, Jones, Gibson, and possibly Burrow. I know many aren't sold/know much about Burrow, but that dude could be a stud if given the chance. He's going to have to fight though to beat out Gibson.

Benny The Jet;1692289 wrote:It's possible that OSU could have 4/5 QB's that could start for almost every single other Big10 school. Miller, JT, Jones, Gibson, and possibly Burrow.

I don't usually buy the hype for recruits until they produce on the field. It seems to me that just as many 5 stars do nothing in college as produce. I'm shocked at how well JT and Cardale have been able to perform when needed this year.

Benny The Jet;1692289 wrote:If he plays like he has vs. Oregon, his stock will never be higher and should declare. But lets pretend for some reason they're all there next year. It's possible that OSU could have 4/5 QB's that could start for almost every single other Big10 school. Miller, JT, Jones, Gibson, and possibly Burrow. I know many aren't sold/know much about Burrow, but that dude could be a stud if given the chance. He's going to have to fight though to beat out Gibson.

I will be surprised if Gibson ever starts at OSU as a QB, and expect Burrow to eventually be the starter. The wildcard is Collier. I don't think Cardale will transfer. I think he declares or stays. With the way offenses are, and all the hits QB's take, backup QB's are closer than ever to being on the field.

se-alum;1692298 wrote:I will be surprised if Gibson ever starts at OSU as a QB, and expect Burrow to eventually be the starter. The wildcard is Collier. I don't think Cardale will transfer. I think he declares or stays. With the way offenses are, and all the hits QB's take, backup QB's are closer than ever to being on the field.

I'd agree with that about Gibson moving positions at OSU. But just for fun, what B1G schools would he not start for as a 5* freshman qb? Mich St, Penn St...that's about all that I can see.

dont know, dont care. There's a championship to be won before thinking about next year.

Cardale has my vote, although I don't care because that's next year.

Benny The Jet;1692289 wrote:If he plays like he has vs. Oregon, his stock will never be higher and should declare. But lets pretend for some reason they're all there next year. It's possible that OSU could have 4/5 QB's that could start for almost every single other Big10 school. Miller, JT, Jones, Gibson, and possibly Burrow. I know many aren't sold/know much about Burrow, but that dude could be a stud if given the chance. He's going to have to fight though to beat out Gibson.

i don't think he can declare...true sophomore, right?

My vote is JT next year regardless of what happens on the 12th. Will be a great battle in the spring and fall for that position.

slingshot4ever;1692314 wrote:i don't think he can declare...true sophomore, right?

No, he's a redshirt sophomore.

I want JT. But if Cardale wins the National Championship, you can't bench him. Add in the fact that JT will be coming off a broken ankle.

Braxton is a non-factor for me, he won't be in Columbus next year.

I remember reading before that Cardale was already leaning towards transferring. If he and Braxton want any shot at the next level they both need to play another year in college IMO.

We'll know sooner than later, like days after the title game. What a crazy situation though, I can't ever remember a team dealing with something like this.

Benny The Jet;1692317 wrote:No, he's a redshirt sophomore.

Not only is he a redshirt soph, but he spent a year at Fork Union so he's 4 years removed from high school.

Another interesting thing, Cardale was actually a scholar athlete when he had his tweeting incident.

No question that JT is the starting QB. Jones will not transfer ...yet. Miller is probably 50/50 that he leaves. Jones may leave the year after.

wildcats20;1692322 wrote:I want JT. But if Cardale wins the National Championship, you can't bench him. Add in the fact that JT will be coming off a broken ankle.

I disagree, looking back at JT's season. And I think Cardale knows that as well. I think he knows he will not be the starter, regardless. I am sure Cardale knows the importance of this game with Oregon... not to stake a claim on being the starter next year, but to raise his draft stock. I don't think he's in Columbus at all next year, but I'll be glad to eat my crow when that time comes.

wildcats20;1692322 wrote:Braxton is a non-factor for me, he won't be in Columbus next year.

This. I don't want him in Columbus (for his sake). I want him to go somewhere to shine and raise his draft stock. Selfishly, I'd love to have him back in any capacity.

So, what is your conversation if you're Urban?

Braxton: "You will play every snap. May not be at QB, but we will use you to the fullest of your abilities in a way that will help the team succeed best. If you must go, I fully support you."

JT: "Just get better. You're fine."

Jones: "Thank you for all that you have provided for tOSU this year. We are lucky to have you on our team. We want you here next year, but there is no guarantee that we can get you in the game, especially as a starter. While you performed light years above your expectations in your 3 games as a starter, I simply cannot look past JT's season. I want you on this team, but I fully support your decision. My ultimate goal is for you to succeed at the next level, which I feel is very capable."

centralbucksfan;1692331 wrote:No question that JT is the starting QB. Jones will not transfer ...yet. Miller is probably 50/50 that he leaves. Jones may leave the year after.

Jones is a redshirt soph. Next year redshirt junior. If he waits until after next season, the only way he'll be able to play is he graduates in 4 years, which IMO, is highly unlikely to be the case given his track record. You've got 5 years to play 4.


I also think it would be dumb for any NFL team to draft him in the top 5 rounds based on the extremely small sample size, but what he has done has been amazing.

Pick6;1692338 wrote:Jones is a redshirt soph. Next year redshirt junior. If he waits until after next season, the only way he'll be able to play is he graduates in 4 years, which IMO, is highly unlikely to be the case given his track record. You've got 5 years to play 4.


I also think it would be dumb for any NFL team to draft him in the top 5 rounds based on the extremely small sample size, but what he has done has been amazing.

Tedd Ginn Sr. looms largely with Jones. He was recently quoted as saying that Jones main priority is getting his degree and that he is on course to do so. As mentioned, at that point, he could transfer and play right away without sitting out.

Bottom line, yes he has done very well. But as Meyer has stated, he has a great supporting cast around him. This offense does not really suit him. He is a traditional drop back, pocket QB. He'll get time to play next year I am sure. He has earned it. But JT will be the man next year.

And again, Jones has only played in two games. Both games he has had a RB go over 200yds. That opens up quite a bit for ANY qb to do well. I am not downplaying how he has done. He has done great. But again...two games does not make someone all this and that. How often have we seen this in the NFL where a QB plays a couple great games, some team signs them to big bucks in off season and when they are put into a regular position over the course of more than one or two games...failure.
We'll see how it all plays out. Hell, I am just happy OSU has all of these great options at this position! I trust Meyer will do what is best for the team.

The graduate transfer for Jones is interesting, I hadn't thought of that. If he could graduate next year then I definitely see him sticking around for next year then transferring. He'd have to sit a year anyway so will just stay, get his degree, then move on for one year. That's most likely scenario for him now if he can graduate next year. With JT running so much there's a decent chance Cardale would see the field again as well.

se-alum;1692298 wrote:I will be surprised if Gibson ever starts at OSU as a QB, and expect Burrow to eventually be the starter. The wildcard is Collier. I don't think Cardale will transfer. I think he declares or stays. With the way offenses are, and all the hits QB's take, backup QB's are closer than ever to being on the field.

I believe Gibson chose OSU because they were the only school who told him he would be given every opportunity to play QB. Others saw him more as an athlete. He is left handed and although raw, I think its safe to say Meyer has a pretty good track record of developing QB's. Burrow can certainly throw the ball, but is nowhere near the athlete that Gibson is. I am sure it will all play out, but I am one to think Gibson may be the next great thing at QB. Pretty unbelievable when you think about the QB position at OSU. They are absolutely stocked for years to come.

centralbucksfan;1692350 wrote:I believe Gibson chose OSU because they were the only school who told him he would be given every opportunity to play QB. Others saw him more as an athlete. He is left handed and although raw, I think its safe to say Meyer has a pretty good track record of developing QB's. Burrow can certainly throw the ball, but is nowhere near the athlete that Gibson is. I am sure it will all play out, but I am one to think Gibson may be the next great thing at QB. Pretty unbelievable when you think about the QB position at OSU. They are absolutely stocked for years to come.

I'm sure he'll be given every opportunity, I just don't think he'll win out. Looking at his highlights, his passing looks worse than Pryor coming out of high school. Not saying he can't win the QB competition, just that I'd be surprised if he did.

se-alum;1692363 wrote:Looking at his highlights, his passing looks worse than Pryor coming out of high school.

Yeah. But I'll also take Urban's ability to develop QB's over Tressel's.