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Aug 10, 2014 1:48 PM
Laley23;1642862 wrote:Yes, they all have spotters. Literally in their ear telling them what to avoid in the track in situations like that.
Small dirt tracks in sprint cars do not have spotters. The most they have are one way radios so track officials can talk to drivers.
Aug 10, 2014 1:48pm
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Aug 10, 2014 1:52 PM
HelloAgain;1642863 wrote:lol at Stewart initially planning to race after fucking killing someone 12 hours before. Good god what a POS.
Yes, because Tony Stewart said he was going to race. Smh. Obviously they knew very early on Tony wasn't racing because they flew in a replacement driver.
Aug 10, 2014 1:52pm
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Aug 10, 2014 1:54 PM
Laley23;1642862 wrote:Yes, they all have spotters. Literally in their ear telling them what to avoid in the track in situations like that.
NASCAR teams do because the tracks are bigger and the driver has very limited view out of the car, but I believe sprint cars do not use spotters because the tracks are so small and the cars go so fast around the track the spotter probably can't really keep up with the action, he would be talking the whole time.

I've seen the video and while Tony Stewart has anger issues and has done some stupid shit in the past, he had no reason to be pissed at the driver(unless something happened prior to the video starting, but the accident just looked like a bad racing deal), so my gut says to say it was just a terribly unfortunate accident.
Aug 10, 2014 1:54pm
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Aug 10, 2014 1:56 PM
GoChiefs;1642865 wrote:Yes, because Tony Stewart said he was going to race. Smh. Obviously they knew very early on Tony wasn't racing because they flew in a replacement driver.
At 9am his team manager said he would race and it was "business as usual." Sounds to me like they received a ton of backlash, then reversed their decision a few hours later.

The mere fact his team would call anything "business as usual" less than 12 hrs after he killed someone with his car is about as big a POS comment as I can remember in sports recently. Whether he's guilty or not, there's really no defending that statement.
Aug 10, 2014 1:56pm
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Aug 10, 2014 2:00 PM
HelloAgain;1642868 wrote:At 9am his team manager said he would race and it was "business as usual." Sounds to me like they received a ton of backlash, then reversed their decision a few hours later.

The mere fact his team would call anything "business as usual" less than 12 hrs after he killed someone with his car is about as big a POS comment as I can remember in sports recently. Whether he's guilty or not, there's really no defending that statement.
They aren't going to release any differing statement in NASCAR until they have all their ducks in a row. It's nothing new in NASCAR. Maybe at that point they hadn't found a replacement yet, so thats why they just decided to say he was racing.

I'm not saying you are wrong, I just find it hard to believe there was ever any intention of Tony racing today.
Aug 10, 2014 2:00pm
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Aug 10, 2014 2:01 PM
Laley23;1642862 wrote:Yes, they all have spotters. Literally in their ear telling them what to avoid in the track in situations like that.
Sprint cars definitely don't have spotters.
Aug 10, 2014 2:01pm
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Aug 10, 2014 2:06 PM
GoChiefs;1642870 wrote:They aren't going to release any differing statement in NASCAR until they have all their ducks in a row. It's nothing new in NASCAR. Maybe at that point they hadn't found a replacement yet, so thats why they just decided to say he was racing.

I'm not saying you are wrong, I just find it hard to believe there was ever any intention of Tony racing today.
There is no justification for using the phrase "business as usual" and indicating he planned to race hours after killing someone. Can't find a replacement? Then I guess no one is driving the car.

The most logical conclusion here is that they were initially planning to race(as they stated publicly) then reconsidered after the extreme negative public reaction to that statement.
Aug 10, 2014 2:06pm
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Aug 10, 2014 2:09 PM
HelloAgain;1642872 wrote:There is no justification for using the phrase "business as usual" and indicating he planned to race hours after killing someone. Can't find a replacement? Then I guess no one is driving the car.

The most logical conclusion here is that they were initially planning to race(as they stated publicly) then reconsidered after the extreme negative public reaction to that statement.
The last thing Tony Stewart and his team is going to care about is negative public reaction.
Aug 10, 2014 2:09pm
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Aug 10, 2014 2:14 PM
GoChiefs;1642874 wrote:The last thing Tony Stewart and his team is going to care about is negative public reaction.
When you're facing a potential manslaughter charge, I'm guessing they may begin to care a little more than they have in the past.

I don't happen to think he should be charged with a crime here, but the statement issued this morning was sociopathic. It's completely indefensible.
Aug 10, 2014 2:14pm
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Aug 10, 2014 2:18 PM
GoChiefs;1642874 wrote:The last thing Tony Stewart and his team is going to care about is negative public reaction.
While you're somewhat right about the public reaction directly, they surely care about what the sponsors think, and the sponsors definitely care about the public reaction. I am sure Mobil 1 doesn't want a driver out there representing them 14 or so hours after being involved in the death of another driver when most of the public thinks it's crazy that driver could actually go out and race after that.
Aug 10, 2014 2:18pm
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Aug 10, 2014 2:19 PM
Crimson streak;1642859 wrote:Lol you're an idiot. First off it wasn't really even Tony's fault the guy crashed in the first place. And spotters? Lmao you're drunk go home
Yeah. He was just pissed at him for no reason :rolleyes:
Aug 10, 2014 2:19pm
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Aug 10, 2014 2:22 PM
Actually he was the wreck wasn't Tonys fault
Aug 10, 2014 2:22pm
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Aug 10, 2014 2:25 PM
Pick6;1642877 wrote:Yeah. He was just pissed at him for no reason :rolleyes:
Drivers rarely think it's their fault. Yes, he was pissed for no reason. The crash was on him, not Tony.
Aug 10, 2014 2:25pm
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Aug 10, 2014 3:24 PM
Iliketurtles;1642793 wrote:Tony Stewart is a POS and deliberately hit him,
You're an idiot.
Laley23;1642862 wrote:Yes, they all have spotters. Literally in their ear telling them what to avoid in the track in situations like that.
Wrong. Not in Sprint cars.
Crimson streak;1642871 wrote:Sprint cars definitely don't have spotters.
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Aug 10, 2014 3:24pm
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Aug 10, 2014 4:37 PM
I've followed racing of all levels for around 30 years. I have seen things change over the years to improve the safety of the drivers and their pit crews in an effort to minimize injury or death in the sport. With that said (at all levels) there should be rules in place to prevent this from happening like significant fines for exiting your car and intentionally calling out a driver on the "field of play". With all the rules geared toward safety, this is something they have missed and has cost someone their life. I don't believe Tony was intentional, however, a simple rule could have changed this whole situation.
Aug 10, 2014 4:37pm
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Aug 10, 2014 4:43 PM
Stewart is a POS. Agreed.

He's an accomplished racer. Years back when he first broke into NASCAR he could've taken the professionally tactful tract like his mentor, but chose to stick with the meat headed meatball bad ass routine. He's been involved in many on track "unfortunate racing incidents" (insert the coy wink-wink here) of his own making.

No one may ever know for sure....... but at first glance for me, it seems that Stewart may have meant to give the kid the blow-off, and the contact unintentional.
Aug 10, 2014 4:43pm
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Aug 10, 2014 4:56 PM
Gardens35;1642907 wrote:Stewart is a POS. Agreed.

He's an accomplished racer. Years back when he first broke into NASCAR he could've taken the professionally tactful tract like his mentor, but chose to stick with the meat headed meatball bad ass routine. He's been involved in many on track "unfortunate racing incidents" (insert the coy wink-wink here) of his own making.

No one may ever know for sure....... but at first glance for me, it seems that Stewart may have meant to give the kid the blow-off, and the contact unintentional.
Agreed.
Aug 10, 2014 4:56pm
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Aug 10, 2014 6:02 PM
Did salto/said laugh?
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Aug 10, 2014 7:51 PM
Tigerfan00;1642937 wrote:Did salto/said laugh?
Only at your fail.
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Aug 10, 2014 7:54 PM
Gardens35;1642907 wrote:Stewart is a POS. Agreed.

He's an accomplished racer. Years back when he first broke into NASCAR he could've taken the professionally tactful tract like his mentor, but chose to stick with the meat headed meatball bad ass routine. He's been involved in many on track "unfortunate racing incidents" (insert the coy wink-wink here) of his own making.

No one may ever know for sure....... but at first glance for me, it seems that Stewart may have meant to give the kid the blow-off, and the contact unintentional.
Also agree! He didn't mean to hit him but wanted to get close to him and clipped him in the process!
Aug 10, 2014 7:54pm
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Aug 10, 2014 8:15 PM
HelloAgain;1642875 wrote: I don't happen to think he should be charged with a crime here, but the statement issued this morning was sociopathic. It's completely indefensible.
I can't imagine a lawyer signing-off on that statement, but Stewart could potentially be facing criminal charges and so you really shouldn't be saying anything, but anything you do say would have to give no indication of guilt or responsibility.

"Business as usual", while terribly insensitive, was probably intended to convey no responsibility or liability for the accident.
Aug 10, 2014 8:15pm
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Aug 11, 2014 9:46 AM
NASCAR fans are only upset because they didn't get to see the guy die.
Aug 11, 2014 9:46am
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Aug 11, 2014 10:39 AM
HelloAgain;1642863 wrote:lol at Stewart initially planning to race after fucking killing someone 12 hours before. Good god what a POS.
Guy I know went to work the day after someone pulled out in front of him and was hit and killed in an accident. I dont see an issue with it especially when your work/payday is just one day a week pretty much.

I would not have had a problem with him racing the next day
Aug 11, 2014 10:39am