Is he? Most of what I saw of him in college seemed to be all about getting himself some attention.like_that;1614426 wrote:And he is a leader...
That's probably because you were fapping to whatever the espn hype machine fed to you.Fly4Fun;1614471 wrote:Is he? Most of what I saw of him in college seemed to be all about getting himself some attention.
Did you watch any of his games?Fly4Fun;1614471 wrote:Is he? Most of what I saw of him in college seemed to be all about getting himself some attention.
They said that about Quinn too. Nice fail thoughlike_that;1614477 wrote:
The consensus by the evaluators is he is very competitive, confident, and a leader.
First of all no they didn't, and second of all I not arguing he is going to be successful because they believe that... We are discussing what the consensus thought is on JFF. Keep trying harder hermit.dlazz;1614479 wrote:They said that about Quinn too. Nice fail though
LOL, yes they did. They thought he was going to show up and be ready to play.like_that;1614482 wrote:First of all no they didn't
Oh? Is that why they had no intentions of starting him the first year (which he didn't)? LOL keep failing and pretending you know what you are talking about hermit.dlazz;1614486 wrote:LOL, yes they did. They thought he was going to show up and be ready to play.
Keep on trying little buddy!
Says the Browns fan excited about the much hyped Manziel? I think many of his actions demonstrate that he isn't a leader. Getting drunk, hungover then ditching out on a football camp where he was supposed to be a leader for example.like_that;1614477 wrote:That's probably because you were fapping to whatever the espn hype machine fed to you.
The consensus by the evaluators is he is very competitive, confident, and a leader.
Yes, and I saw he is a great athlete with a competitive spirit as I already said.Automatik;1614478 wrote:Did you watch any of his games?
That was because of his Charlie Weis pedigree while everyone was still slobbering on his (Weis's) knob.dlazz;1614486 wrote:LOL, yes they did. They thought he was going to show up and be ready to play.
Keep on trying little buddy!
'Tis.Automatik;1614491 wrote:
From what I remember, Quinn often looked like a listless bitch while on the ND sidelines....but my anti-ND bias could be showing.
If you have read any of my posts I'm neither very excited or pissed we got manziel. I think it's dumb to overreact to a draft pick unless it's completely obvious the guy is going to be a busy (ie weeden). I think we can all agree that it's an evenly divided debate whether he will be a boom/boost.Fly4Fun;1614492 wrote:Says the Browns fan excited about the much hyped Manziel? I think many of his actions demonstrate that he isn't a leader. Getting drunk, hungover then ditching out on a football camp where he was supposed to be a leader for example.
Yes, and I saw he is a great athlete with a competitive spirit as I already said.
That was because of his Charlies Weis pedigree while everyone was still slobbering on his knob.
I actually don't read your posts generally so I didn't know that. So we agree that it's evenly divided whether he will be a boom or bust.like_that;1614496 wrote:If you have read any of my posts I'm neither very excited or pissed we got manziel. I think it's dumb to overreact to a draft pick unless it's completely obvious the guy is going to be a busy (ie weeden). I think we can all agree that it's an evenly divided debate whether he will be a boom/boost.
As for your other portion of your response, he was a fucking college kid. Get off your high horse. So basically you are looking for a bible thumping QB? Got it.
All of this.Automatik;1614504 wrote:I go by what I see ON THE FIELD.
His teammates appeared to feed off of his energy and I never noticed his off the field BS affecting his in-game performance.....unless you want to count the time he was benched for a quarter.
So you didn't read my posts yet you categorized me as an excited fan? Speaking from your ass per usual. This is why (amongst many reasons) nobody likes.Fly4Fun;1614498 wrote:I actually don't read your posts generally so I didn't know that. So we agree that it's evenly divided whether he will be a boom or bust.
Yes, he was a college kid. It's not like I'm criticizing him for getting drunk. I could give a rats ass generally about college kids drinking (even those below 21)
I'm criticizing him for getting drunk the night before he's supposed to be a mentor/leader at an elite/exclusive QB camp to the point where he had to leave because of how hungover he was. To me that shows his lack of leadership abilities.
+1 and I hardly agree with you.Automatik;1614504 wrote:I go by what I see ON THE FIELD.
Manziel's teammates appeared to feed off of his energy and swagger.
I never noticed his off the field BS affecting his in-game performance.....unless you want to count the time he was benched for a quarter.
All that swagger and he's never won anything.Automatik;1614504 wrote:I go by what I see ON THE FIELD.
Manziel's teammates appeared to feed off of his energy and swagger.
I never noticed his off the field BS affecting his in-game performance.....unless you want to count the time he was benched for a quarter.
lol....yeah yeah, you just don't like to admit it.like_that;1614508 wrote:+1 and I hardly agree with you.
Only one team can win it all.sleeper;1614510 wrote:All that swagger and he's never won anything.
Not true. He never won a division, a conference championship, or a title. He beat Alabama one time with a gimmick offense and almost pissed down his leg against DUKE.Automatik;1614513 wrote:Only one team can win it all.
I was unclear in what I said. I read your posts responding to me, but I don't read all your posts. So there is no reason to throw a fit over me not knowing your views of Manziel.like_that;1614507 wrote:So you didn't read my posts yet you categorized me as an excited fan? Speaking from your ass per usual. This is why (amongst many reasons) nobody likes.
I will give him a pass on skipping camp as he was a kid who just became a celebrity. I'll go with the consensus experts who say he has leadership traits.
Ray Lewis is a murderer and he was considered a leader.
That's what I'm saying.Fly4Fun;1614522 wrote:So there is no reason to throw a fit .