ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
May 28, 2014 9:14am
I'm only speculating, but maybe because he seems himself becoming more of a power forward as he gets older? I honestly have no idea though. I would have told him to gfh.Pick6;1620177 wrote:solid question considering they both play the same position...
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
May 28, 2014 9:22am
I'm guessing Coach K has something to do with it. Probably talked him into it. If him mentioning Parker is true to begin with of course.Commander of Awesome;1620174 wrote:Why would lbj want Parker and not embiid?
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 28, 2014 9:23am
I guess he technically is playing a lot of PF right now with the Heat and their small lineup..but still a Parker, Lebron, Kyrie, and Dion team would have way too many guys that are ball dominant, imo.ohiobucks1;1620186 wrote:I'm only speculating, but maybe because he seems himself becoming more of a power forward as he gets older? I honestly have no idea though. I would have told him to gfh.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 28, 2014 9:44am
To be fair, he said without LBJ. The Heat are really a 3-core team with decent secondary players like Allen and Chalmers. Take LBJ out of the core and you have an aging Wade who has maybe a year or two of player above replacement level and Bosh who's overrated to hell in my opinion. Contrast that to the potential Irving/Embid Core who are all younger and have a higher ceiling tha both Wade/Bosh. Add in Bennett who could pan out to be a rotation player, TT, AV, Waiters, and another FA with all the cap room and I could see the Cavs roster being a more attractive option than Miami.like_that;1620168 wrote:
Lhslep, no idea how the cavs can have a better roster than the heat.
I still think Lebron stays in Miami though.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
May 28, 2014 10:16am
If his back checks out....the pick better be Embiid and LBJ can GFH if he doesn't want to come to that core.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 28, 2014 11:14am
I was picturing both lineups with Lebron. I don't see Lebron leaving bosh/wade for the cry babies in waiters and kyrie.sleeper;1620199 wrote:To be fair, he said without LBJ. The Heat are really a 3-core team with decent secondary players like Allen and Chalmers. Take LBJ out of the core and you have an aging Wade who has maybe a year or two of player above replacement level and Bosh who's overrated to hell in my opinion. Contrast that to the potential Irving/Embid Core who are all younger and have a higher ceiling tha both Wade/Bosh. Add in Bennett who could pan out to be a rotation player, TT, AV, Waiters, and another FA with all the cap room and I could see the Cavs roster being a more attractive option than Miami.
I still think Lebron stays in Miami though.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 28, 2014 11:58am
This may have been posted on pages back but I had heard awhile ago that Lebron wasn't all that fond of Kyrie's game and thought "you can't win a championship with him." This was a few months back.like_that;1620248 wrote:I was picturing both lineups with Lebron. I don't see Lebron leaving bosh/wade for the cry babies in waiters and kyrie.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 28, 2014 12:00pm
He may think that, but the guy won a ship with Mario fucking Chalmers. Lol
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 28, 2014 12:11pm
Embid would be the best or second best player on the team over Waiters/Kyrie. The core of Embid, Irving, Lebron, Bennett, TT, AV, waiters is better than what Miami has.like_that;1620248 wrote:I was picturing both lineups with Lebron. I don't see Lebron leaving bosh/wade for the cry babies in waiters and kyrie.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 28, 2014 12:18pm
Not for 2014-2015.sleeper;1620273 wrote:The core of Embid, Irving, Lebron, Bennett, TT, AV, waiters is better than what Miami has.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 28, 2014 12:20pm
Disagree. But even if it isn't; would you rather have Cleveland's core over the next 6 years or Miami's core?like_that;1620276 wrote:Not for 2014-2015.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 28, 2014 12:23pm
Lebron can still play one more year at Miami and then decide.sleeper;1620277 wrote:Disagree. But even if it isn't; would you rather have Cleveland's core over the next 6 years or Miami's core?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 28, 2014 12:25pm
Like I said, I think he stays in Miami. However, with winning the #1 pick, it definitely opened the door for him to consider walking into a young, highly talented team. If Bennett ever grows up, which I think he will have a much better year next year, the Cavs will be scary good even without Lebron.like_that;1620279 wrote:Lebron can still play one more year at Miami and then decide.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 28, 2014 12:34pm
I don't think Bennett will ever live up to the value of his pick (nor will the rest of that class IMO), but I definitely think he will te bit around and have a NBA career.sleeper;1620280 wrote:Like I said, I think he stays in Miami. However, with winning the #1 pick, it definitely opened the door for him to consider walking into a young, highly talented team. If Bennett ever grows up, which I think he will have a much better year next year, the Cavs will be scary good even without Lebron.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 28, 2014 12:37pm
It's hard to say but watching him play in college and then watching him play in the pros is like night and day. Something happened to really nullify is transition and I think he will be a solid piece once he figures out the pro game.like_that;1620285 wrote:I don't think Bennett will ever live up to the value of his pick (nor will the rest of that class IMO), but I definitely think he will te bit around and have a NBA career.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 28, 2014 12:37pm
Bennett is a bust. I'm not looking forward to anything from him outside of 9th man duties.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 28, 2014 12:41pm
If he plays like he did this year, the Cavs should just cut him. I think he will come out and play much better next year though.SportsAndLady;1620290 wrote:Bennett is a bust. I'm not looking forward to anything from him outside of 9th man duties.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 28, 2014 12:56pm
Bust
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 28, 2014 1:02pm
You guys are way too quick to give up on Bennett. I hate playing the "I actually watched him card" but I know you none of you guys (except maybe COA b/c he's on the WC) watched him as much as I did before his shoulder injury. One of my classmates is a UNLV grad and we watched their games together because I had heard of Bennett's hype.
Dude is the real deal and he showed flashes of it last year despite trying to adjust to the NBA and playing for a terrible offensive coach (don't discount that).
Also, none of us know what other moves our team will be making this off-season. If you go back and read my post, I said there's a good chance it will be better. I mean that to include the moves we have't made yet.
Dude is the real deal and he showed flashes of it last year despite trying to adjust to the NBA and playing for a terrible offensive coach (don't discount that).
Also, none of us know what other moves our team will be making this off-season. If you go back and read my post, I said there's a good chance it will be better. I mean that to include the moves we have't made yet.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 28, 2014 1:08pm
I didn't watch a second of Bennett NCAA ball other than the tourney game and draft videos. Watched him as a cav and he sucked ass. Hopefully he lives up to it, but nothing leads me to believe he will
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 28, 2014 1:08pm
I think Bennett might turn into a passable NBA player. Too much of a tweener to be anything special, though.
I'd personally keep him over Thompson.
I'd personally keep him over Thompson.
robj55
Posts: 9,511
May 28, 2014 1:16pm
The NBA is full of tweeners, it's really a positionless league anymore.Mulva;1620316 wrote:I think Bennett might turn into a passable NBA player. Too much of a tweener to be anything special, though.
I'd personally keep him over Thompson.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 28, 2014 1:22pm
Commander of Awesome;1620315 wrote:Watched him as a cav and he sucked ass. Hopefully he lives up to it, but nothing leads me to believe he will
And that's a fair point. I can't sit here and disagree with people who think he sucks or is a bust because that's what the tape from last year shows, with a few flashes.
I'm only saying give it some time, and maybe a decent coach, and let's see.
I see us getting rid of Thompson because we have faith in Bennett.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 28, 2014 1:25pm
I want to agree with you and feel confident about the pick, but too many players were great in college and busted in the pros. Just because Bennett was a beast at UNLV doesn't make me feel any more or less confident in his ability to do well in the NBA.lhslep134;1620325 wrote:And that's a fair point. I can't sit here and disagree with people who think he sucks or is a bust because that's what the tape from last year shows, with a few flashes.
I'm only saying give it some time, and maybe a decent coach, and let's see.
I see us getting rid of Thompson because we have faith in Bennett.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 28, 2014 1:32pm
The NBA is full of guys that can play multiple positions, not guys that can't fully play any position. Its pretty much the exact opposite of Bennett.robj55;1620322 wrote:The NBA is full of tweeners, it's really a positionless league anymore.