Cleveland Cavaliers Offseason 2014

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Oct 31, 2014 11:00pm
Can someone explain why Dellavedova played almost the whole game?
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Oct 31, 2014 11:09pm
bigdaddy2003;1669475 wrote:Can someone explain why Dellavedova played almost the whole game?
Because the backcourt alternatives are Dion Waiters and Joe Harris.

Also, he moves the ball, takes care of the ball (7/0 assists/turnovers to start the year), and does a lot of the little things that a team needs to do to win. He's an easy guy for a coach to trust, especially a new coach.
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Oct 31, 2014 11:12pm
bigdaddy2003;1669475 wrote:Can someone explain why Dellavedova played almost the whole game?
Be careful pick6 will rip your ass and start crying for calling a spade a spade.
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Nov 1, 2014 8:44am
Waiters was horrendous and may have lost that game if he was playing.

Kudos to Blatt for benching him. Guy isn't the #2 option anymore, probably the #5. Needs to realize that.
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Nov 1, 2014 9:30am
Really really think they should make waiters the first guy off the bench. He may not like it but he's going to hate his current role. He's basically the last option. Even behind Andy because Andy is so good at cutting and moving without the ball that they find him more.
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Footwedge
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Nov 1, 2014 11:36am
Waiters needs to be sent packing. I can't stand him. Dellavadova was a mediocre shooter in college but did dish out a lot of assists. Maybe Ray Allen/Mike Miller combo would be the ticket.
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sportchampps
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Nov 1, 2014 12:25pm
Bing a 6th man is where he thrived at in college as well and where I think he fits best for this team.
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Nov 1, 2014 12:26pm
Why are you fools still using the offseason thread?
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Nov 1, 2014 12:48pm
He came off the bench quite a bit last season. Not a ton of success there either.
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Nov 1, 2014 1:06pm
Midstate01;1669515 wrote:Really really think they should make waiters the first guy off the bench. He may not like it but he's going to hate his current role. He's basically the last option. Even behind Andy because Andy is so good at cutting and moving without the ball that they find him more.
You lose him mentally when he comes off the bench.

He is obsessed with "being a starter" because he wants to be seen as the star he thinks he is in his mind.

His skill set makes him a great 6th man potentially. Unfortunately he has this irrational opinion of his game that makes him think he is a superstar even though he clearly isn't.

He was always jealous of Kyrie since he got here because he in his heart thinks he is as good or better than him, and now seeing the hype of "the big 3" is probably killing him because he thinks people should be talking about a big 4 (that includes him).

Dion's too stubborn and headstrong to ever accept and be happy with the role the Cavs most need him to play. What we need from Dion, and what Dion wants to accomplish are not compatible and the sooner everyone realizes this the sooner we can all move on and find guys who are interested in playing the roles we need them to play.
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friendfromlowry
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Nov 1, 2014 1:21pm
IggyPride00;1669550 wrote:You lose him mentally when he comes off the bench.

He is obsessed with "being a starter" because he wants to be seen as the star he thinks he is in his mind.

His skill set makes him a great 6th man potentially. Unfortunately he has this irrational opinion of his game that makes him think he is a superstar even though he clearly isn't.

He was always jealous of Kyrie since he got here because he in his heart thinks he is as good or better than him, and now seeing the hype of "the big 3" is probably killing him because he thinks people should be talking about a big 4 (that includes him).

Dion's too stubborn and headstrong to ever accept and be happy with the role the Cavs most need him to play. What we need from Dion, and what Dion wants to accomplish are not compatible and the sooner everyone realizes this the sooner we can all move on and find guys who are interested in playing the roles we need them to play.
Link?
Did Hoyer and Waiters doubleteam your wife?
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Nov 1, 2014 1:33pm
robj55;1669479 wrote:Be careful pick6 will rip your ass and start crying for calling a spade a spade.
I'll post the response of somebody who has seen him play more than twice in his life.
Mulva;1669478 wrote:Because the backcourt alternatives are Dion Waiters and Joe Harris.

Also, he moves the ball, takes care of the ball (7/0 assists/turnovers to start the year), and does a lot of the little things that a team needs to do to win. He's an easy guy for a coach to trust, especially a new coach.
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Nov 1, 2014 1:46pm
friendfromlowry;1669556 wrote:Link?
Did Hoyer and Waiters doubleteam your wife?
I know a problem when I see it, and unlike most people I am not content to wait for a car crash to play itself out if I know it can be prevented with pro-active measures.
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Mar 30, 2015 6:50pm
Midstate01;1635844 wrote:Bennett has looked very good.
Yeah riding the pine in Minnesota. lol
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Mar 30, 2015 6:56pm
Commander of Awesome;1717407 wrote:Yeah riding the pine in Minnesota. lol
His numbers are up across the board...
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Mar 30, 2015 7:05pm
Classyposter58;1635928 wrote:Lets not forget though, Kevin Love is the best PF in the NBA. It's not like he's just some good player, he's an All-NBA talent
lol at classy calling Love best PF in the game. Not even close.

http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?44337-Cleveland-Cavaliers-Offseason-2014&p=1635928&viewfull=1#post1635928
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Mar 30, 2015 7:10pm
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Mar 30, 2015 7:20pm
Commander of Awesome;1717410 wrote:lol at classy calling Love best PF in the game. Not even close.

http://www.ohiochatter.com/forum/showthread.php?44337-Cleveland-Cavaliers-Offseason-2014&p=1635928&viewfull=1#post1635928
Top 26 for sure.
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Mar 30, 2015 7:23pm
Jordouche was the worst. Hope he stays away from the OC
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Mar 30, 2015 7:24pm
HighRoller74;1717417 wrote:Top 26 for sure.
No doubt. Just think it's funny, Love on a garbage team and he's a top 5 player, best PF in the game. Not on a garbage team, ppl think he's trash. Probably somewhere in between, which some of us were saying. Think the wolves would trade Wiggins for him now?
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Mar 30, 2015 7:33pm
See thats actually tough....because obviously they wouldn't, because he's like 6 years younger, but the advanced stats, have actually shown that Wiggins has been a below average player this season.

And even with a down season, Love is still a top 5 PF in the game.

Now clearly Wiggins has amazing potential, but if for the next 3 years, I think most every team in the NBA would make the Cavs did.
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Mar 30, 2015 9:49pm
Commander of Awesome;1717420 wrote:No doubt. Just think it's funny, Love on a garbage team and he's a top 5 player, best PF in the game. Not on a garbage team, ppl think he's trash. Probably somewhere in between, which some of us were saying. Think the wolves would trade Wiggins for him now?
First option compared to distant third option.
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Mar 30, 2015 10:09pm
Commander of Awesome;1717407 wrote:Yeah riding the pine in Minnesota. lol
You went deep for this one.
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Mar 30, 2015 11:15pm
robj55;1717459 wrote:First option compared to distant third option.
Think its more than that.
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Mar 31, 2015 8:36am
Commander of Awesome;1717420 wrote:No doubt. Just think it's funny, Love on a garbage team and he's a top 5 player, best PF in the game. Not on a garbage team, ppl think he's trash. Probably somewhere in between, which some of us were saying. Think the wolves would trade Wiggins for him now?
Again, just like Love's numbers are deflated due to being the 3rd wheel, Wiggins numbers are inflated being the only option on a shitty team. IMO, Wiggins numbers don't even come close to what he's doing in Minny on this team.