wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
May 25, 2014 7:35pm
Yeah I heard that too. Who knows.Mulva;1619590 wrote:During the game last night he said "as a coach... that sounds pretty good, by the way". Made it sound like he wants to coach to me.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 26, 2014 9:19pm
random thought: who is the last elite center to lead their team to a title? I think I'd rather have an all-star/potential super-star wing compared to potentially the best C in the game.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 26, 2014 9:40pm
Howard almost did it, KG in Boston, Tim Duncan, Shaq. Most indicative of the lack of elite center talent IMO.Pick6;1619752 wrote:random thought: who is the last elite center to lead their team to a title? I think I'd rather have an all-star/potential super-star wing compared to potentially the best C in the game.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
May 26, 2014 9:56pm
If a player is dominant, it doesn't matter their position. Looking back at the last 20 years you had Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Shaq, Duncan, Olajuwon. And most of them still had a 2nd all-star playing with them. Kobe/Shaq, Kobe/Pau, Shaq/Wade, Duncan/Robinson, Olajuwon/Drexler, Jordan/Pippen, Lebron/Wade. The one position you don't see on there is point guard. And I don't see that changing any time soon.Pick6;1619752 wrote:random thought: who is the last elite center to lead their team to a title? I think I'd rather have an all-star/potential super-star wing compared to potentially the best C in the game.
The teams that didn't have a "best in the league" caliber guy had to be solid at pretty much every position. Boston (Rondo/Pierce/Allen/Garnett), Detroit (Wallaces/Rip/Billups/Prince), Dallas (Dirk/Terry/Butler/Chandler/Matrix), Spurs this year.
GOONx19
Posts: 7,147
May 26, 2014 10:50pm
I think this is spot on.Mulva;1619769 wrote:If a player is dominant, it doesn't matter their position. Looking back at the last 20 years you had Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Shaq, Duncan, Olajuwon. And most of them still had a 2nd all-star playing with them. Kobe/Shaq, Kobe/Pau, Shaq/Wade, Duncan/Robinson, Olajuwon/Drexler, Jordan/Pippen, Lebron/Wade. The one position you don't see on there is point guard. And I don't see that changing any time soon.
The teams that didn't have a "best in the league" caliber guy had to be solid at pretty much every position. Boston (Rondo/Pierce/Allen/Garnett), Detroit (Wallaces/Rip/Billups/Prince), Dallas (Dirk/Terry/Butler/Chandler/Matrix), Spurs this year.
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
May 27, 2014 7:55am
I see you over at RCF getting into fights, Pick6. Haha.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 27, 2014 12:31pm
Heading out to lunch today Baskin & Phelps had Bill Self on 92.3 talking about Wiggins & Embiid. Self, as their former coach, probably doesn't want to play favorites but you could tell he was leaning toward Embiid being the better player. Self said the comparisons between Embiid and Hakeem Olajuwon were "fair." If Embiid turns out to be anything like The Dream, he's gotta be the guy.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
May 27, 2014 12:56pm
Do any Cavs fans think that the writing may be on the wall for a LBJ return? If the Heat win the championship this year, I see it happening. With Kyrie there, the #1 Embiid on the way, it just makes sense to me.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
May 27, 2014 1:02pm
Actually, I'd think quite the opposite. Now if they could somehow land Kevin Love to a long term deal I could see him returning. I don't see him coming back to play with a bunch of young guys. I'd think he'd want a team set to contend for multiple championships immediately. That being said, still don't want him back.ernest_t_bass;1619920 wrote:Do any Cavs fans think that the writing may be on the wall for a LBJ return? If the Heat win the championship this year, I see it happening. With Kyrie there, the #1 Embiid on the way, it just makes sense to me.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 27, 2014 1:02pm
No.ernest_t_bass;1619920 wrote:Do any Cavs fans think that the writing may be on the wall for a LBJ return? If the Heat win the championship this year, I see it happening. With Kyrie there, the #1 Embiid on the way, it just makes sense to me.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
May 27, 2014 1:11pm
Incredible depth to your response. As BR did, do you care to provide reasoning?SportsAndLady;1619924 wrote:No.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
May 27, 2014 1:18pm
I doubt it but that doesn't mean its not possible.ernest_t_bass;1619920 wrote:Do any Cavs fans think that the writing may be on the wall for a LBJ return? If the Heat win the championship this year, I see it happening. With Kyrie there, the #1 Embiid on the way, it just makes sense to me.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 27, 2014 1:22pm
Lebron isn't coming back to Cleveland.ernest_t_bass;1619927 wrote:Incredible depth to your response. As BR did, do you care to provide reasoning?
I have no reasoning other than this is Cleveland and that would be too good of news.
ernest_t_bass
Posts: 24,984
May 27, 2014 1:23pm
Fair enough.SportsAndLady;1619930 wrote:Lebron isn't coming back to Cleveland.
I have no reasoning other than this is Cleveland and that would be too good of news.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
May 27, 2014 1:30pm
lol, spot onSportsAndLady;1619930 wrote:Lebron isn't coming back to Cleveland.
I have no reasoning other than this is Cleveland and that would be too good of news.
Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
May 27, 2014 1:53pm
No. I'm a firm believer Lebron is chasing rings so he is going to end up on ready made teams. The Cavs have no coach, haven't made the playoffs since Lebron left, and this max deal shit with Kyrie only cements the notion that he isn't happy as a Cavalier. Oh, and Dan Gilbert is still owner.ernest_t_bass;1619920 wrote:Do any Cavs fans think that the writing may be on the wall for a LBJ return? If the Heat win the championship this year, I see it happening. With Kyrie there, the #1 Embiid on the way, it just makes sense to me.
He'll stay on with the heat for the 2014-15 season and then move on if he's tired of his old ass team. Might he come back to the Cavs as part of a farewell, last team before he retires deal? Possibly, but who the fuck wants that?
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
May 28, 2014 12:19am
Here's what I know: Lebrons people are telling cavs people to draft Jabari Parker
Heres what I don't know: why the fuck lebron cares.
If we do draft Parker though, watch out.
Heres what I don't know: why the fuck lebron cares.
If we do draft Parker though, watch out.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 28, 2014 12:21am
Here's what I know, catering to lbj's every want got us a big FUCK YOU on national tv and him bouncing to Miami to play penis flickers recruiting every fa which he never did in Cleveland. Also quit. Fuck him. Take embiid
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
May 28, 2014 12:22am
There's a very good chance the Cavs roster next year will be better than the Heat's (not including LBJ).Mohican00;1619939 wrote:No. I'm a firm believer Lebron is chasing rings so he is going to end up on ready made teams.
I am not at all implying Lebron will come back, solely expressing my opinion of the 2 rosters.
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
May 28, 2014 12:24am
Im with you. I just know that maverick relayed that info to my dad to get to My dad's boss to get it to Gilbert (weird right? ). It's the truth. Unless maverick has gone rogueCommander of Awesome;1620146 wrote:Here's what I know, catering to lbj's every want got us a big FUCK YOU on national tv and him bouncing to Miami to play penis flickers recruiting every fa which he never did in Cleveland. Also quit. Fuck him. Take embiid
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
May 28, 2014 12:28am
This. Jesus Christ people, stop.Commander of Awesome;1620146 wrote:Here's what I know, catering to lbj's every want got us a big FUCK YOU on national tv and him bouncing to Miami to play penis flickers recruiting every fa which he never did in Cleveland. Also quit. Fuck him. Take embiid
OB, gtfooh with that "my peoples said Lebron.." Shit
ohiobucks1
Posts: 4,915
May 28, 2014 12:32am
SportsAndLady;1620149 wrote:This. Jesus Christ people, stop.
OB, gtfooh with that "my peoples said Lebron.." Shit
I dont like lebron. But the fact is what I just said is happening. I don't know if Cleveland is listening and I don't know if it means he's wants back in, but he feels the need to tell them to take Parker (for whatever reason). If they do,'you'll know why...
like_that
Posts: 26,625
May 28, 2014 7:26am
So Lebron can play one more year at Miami while seeing if Parker works out? Yeah, fuck that. Lebron isn't coming and they sure as hell better not make moves with the hope of him coming. Plenty of teams did that the last time Lebron was a FA and they all got burned.ohiobucks1;1620151 wrote:I dont like lebron. But the fact is what I just said is happening. I don't know if Cleveland is listening and I don't know if it means he's wants back in, but he feels the need to tell them to take Parker (for whatever reason). If they do,'you'll know why...
Lhslep, no idea how the cavs can have a better roster than the heat.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
May 28, 2014 8:44am
Why would lbj want Parker and not embiid?
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
May 28, 2014 8:55am
solid question considering they both play the same position...Commander of Awesome;1620174 wrote:Why would lbj want Parker and not embiid?