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Aug 26, 2014 9:42 PM
HelloAgain;1647815 wrote:He could also ask how the presence of a dominant big man allowed him to win 5 titles.
We don't have one of those either. So what does that have to do with the conversation?
Aug 26, 2014 9:42pm
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Aug 26, 2014 11:22 PM
IggyPride00;1647820 wrote:We don't have one of those either. So what does that have to do with the conversation?
I'd call either the best or 2nd best PF in the game a dominant big man personally.
Aug 26, 2014 11:22pm
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Aug 27, 2014 12:03 AM
Glad people are still asking the basketball opinions of a guy who let David Kahn run his organization for 5 years.
Aug 27, 2014 12:03am
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Aug 27, 2014 6:13 AM
The butt hurtz feelz are strong with him.
Aug 27, 2014 6:13am
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Aug 27, 2014 7:32 AM
ernest_t_bass;1647875 wrote:The butt hurtz feelz are strong with him.
Agreed. That came across as sour grapes. Now Love could crash & burn (highly doubtful) but, as HelloAgain said, pretty skeptical of a guys' opinion who has had about as much success as an owners as the recent owners of the Browns.

From that article, my belief is that Love just has to be a "decent" defender. He doesn't need to make the NBA All Defensive Team for the Cavs to be very successful.
Aug 27, 2014 7:32am
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Aug 27, 2014 7:33 AM
HelloAgain;1647859 wrote:I'd call either the best or 2nd best PF in the game a dominant big man personally.
And probably THE best passer, in transition, for a big man in the game, which LBJ & Kyrie should thrive off of.
Aug 27, 2014 7:33am
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Aug 27, 2014 8:07 AM
We all agree kyrie sucked on defense too. Have you watched team USA though? He's playing a lot of defense. And pretty damn well. So maybe its just being around winning that brings it out?
Aug 27, 2014 8:07am
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Aug 27, 2014 8:08 AM
Our owner was pretty butt hurt too when Lebron left to be fair.
Aug 27, 2014 8:08am
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Aug 27, 2014 8:08 AM
Midstate01;1647884 wrote:We all agree kyrie sucked on defense too. Have you watched team USA though? He's playing a lot of defense. And pretty damn well. So maybe its just being around winning that brings it out?
Hopefully. I remember when everyone said the celtics big 3 was going to be a defensive liability, and they turned out just fine.
Aug 27, 2014 8:08am
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Aug 27, 2014 8:14 AM
At pinnacle, Cavs at +282. Next highest favorite is San Antonio at +392. Cavs sitting as a strong favorite with better than even money of reaching the NBA finals. I think the defense will be fine. People like Love and Kyrie will step that end up because they have the opportunity of winning it all.
Aug 27, 2014 8:14am
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Aug 27, 2014 9:23 AM
like_that;1647885 wrote:Our owner was pretty butt hurt too when Lebron left to be fair.
Our owner also found out his star player was leaving on national TV in exchange for 2 mid 20's first round draft picks 5 years later. Glen Taylor got back to back #1 overall picks, the best prospect since Lebron, and a talented PF in Thaddeus Young for a player who informed the Wolves he was leaving after this year anyway.

As far as his comments, I don't disagree entirely but Love might change his defensive attitude when playing on a high profile team with the best player in the world.
Aug 27, 2014 9:23am
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Aug 27, 2014 9:54 AM
Wiggins is not the best prospect since Lebron. He wasn't even a sure thing number 1 pick in his own draft. He is probably pretty close to the top 10 since Lebron.
Aug 27, 2014 9:54am
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Aug 27, 2014 11:18 AM
I'm getting annoyed that tickets haven't become available yet. Any timetable on when we can expect them to be available?
Aug 27, 2014 11:18am
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Aug 27, 2014 11:53 AM
Midstate01;1647884 wrote:We all agree kyrie sucked on defense too. Have you watched team USA though? He's playing a lot of defense. And pretty damn well. So maybe its just being around winning that brings it out?
Possibly, wasn't his best game last year when he played in the All-Star Game and was the MVP? I'm guessing he hits another level when he feels like he has legit skill around him.
Aug 27, 2014 11:53am
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Aug 27, 2014 12:06 PM
sportchampps;1647903 wrote:Wiggins is not the best prospect since Lebron. He wasn't even a sure thing number 1 pick in his own draft. He is probably pretty close to the top 10 since Lebron.
I didn't stutter.
Aug 27, 2014 12:06pm
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Aug 27, 2014 2:55 PM
George Karl things we smoked Minny in the trade. That's good enough for me.

I can't fucking wait for the season.
Aug 27, 2014 2:55pm
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Aug 27, 2014 3:01 PM
ohiobucks1;1648073 wrote:George Karl things we smoked Minny in the trade. That's good enough for me.

I can't fucking wait for the season.
Me too. Love or not, I'm stoked to have Lebron back.
Aug 27, 2014 3:01pm
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Aug 27, 2014 10:32 PM
Cavsssss...are gonna be filthy!!
Aug 27, 2014 10:32pm
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Aug 28, 2014 1:18 AM
Heretic;1647967 wrote:Possibly, wasn't his best game last year when he played in the All-Star Game and was the MVP? I'm guessing he hits another level when he feels like he has legit skill around him.
It's got to be tough to get in the mind to play hard nosed defense night in and night out when your team stinks. I've never really thought about it but I wonder how many all defensive team guards weren't on pretty good teams.

He's got the athletic ability to play lock down d so I believe he can turn it around.
Aug 28, 2014 1:18am
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Aug 31, 2014 6:21 PM
Laley23;1649440 wrote:Kyries defense might improve on a great team (ie, team USA), but it appears Mr. Top 26's does not...

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Wasn't Kyrie the one getting the blow-by in that clip?
Aug 31, 2014 6:21pm
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Aug 31, 2014 6:33 PM
Mulva;1649453 wrote:Wasn't Kyrie the one getting the blow-by in that clip?
He was obviously gambling and going for a steal. That's not getting blown by. That's gambling unsuccessfully.
Aug 31, 2014 6:33pm
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Aug 31, 2014 6:55 PM
Mulva;1649453 wrote:Wasn't Kyrie the one getting the blow-by in that clip?
An uncontrolled close-out is 10x better than standing in one spot, not helping, continuing to not move while your player floats to the corner, still not moving an inch as your player catches and makes a 3.

I mean, thats despicable effort in a rec league lol. And I like Harden.
Aug 31, 2014 6:55pm
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Aug 31, 2014 7:37 PM
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1649457 wrote:He was obviously gambling and going for a steal. That's not getting blown by. That's gambling unsuccessfully.
Oh, OK. That's significantly better defense, then.
Aug 31, 2014 7:37pm