Indian Hill (Cincinnati) house fire...damn.

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gut

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Jan 13, 2014 1:48 AM
Fab4Runner;1566178 wrote:There were four different fire departments (countless trucks) on the scene when our house burned down. I'm not a fire truck expert, but I don't think one would cut it for a house that size.
One modern truck should be able to contain it. I'm just going off the fact a high-rise fire in Chicago would see 5-8 engines, generally. A big part of what dictates additional engines is the chance of the fire to spread to proximity houses - not the case here.

I'm no expert, either, but I don't think that fire is a total loss if a single engine gets there in reasonable time. And that's why a total loss is always heightened suspicion.
Jan 13, 2014 1:48am
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sportchampps

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Jan 13, 2014 9:35 AM
I think the lack of nearby water really caused it to be a total loss. It's hard to fight a fire without water
Jan 13, 2014 9:35am
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Jan 13, 2014 9:48 AM
gut;1566488 wrote:One modern truck should be able to contain it. I'm just going off the fact a high-rise fire in Chicago would see 5-8 engines, generally. A big part of what dictates additional engines is the chance of the fire to spread to proximity houses - not the case here.

I'm no expert, either, but I don't think that fire is a total loss if a single engine gets there in reasonable time. And that's why a total loss is always heightened suspicion.

Not necessarly. Most Engines carry only 1000 to 1500 gallons of water and have pumps that can empty the tank within minutes. (usually at least a 1500 GPM pump on the front line engines)
sportchampps;1566529 wrote:I think the lack of nearby water really caused it to be a total loss. It's hard to fight a fire without water
This right here is what makes the difference. Not hitting a hydrant where there is unlimited water and some water pressure going to the pumper makes a huge difference. They had to set up tanks and have tankers from other departments shuttle water from the closest hydrant or water tower. It's not as fast to fill a 2000-3000 gallon tanker as you would think. Not even including the drive time between the water source and the dump sight. (I've done this years ago)

Also take into consideration that not hitting a hydrant means you have to draft water from these water tanks and pump them to the front line engine. This takes a little skill and if not practiced enough can be difficult do. Sometimes this could takes minutes which just adds to the fire spreading.
Jan 13, 2014 9:48am
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Jan 13, 2014 9:59 AM
Tiernan;1566462 wrote:Kid said on FB the dogs were safe, so were they really in the house to begin with? Doubt it.
Well, it looks like you've figured it out. Have you contacted the investigators yet?
Jan 13, 2014 9:59am
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MontyBrunswick

Jan 13, 2014 10:33 AM
Curly J;1566534 wrote: (usually at least a 1500 GPM pump on the front line engines)

my **** too, lol.
Jan 13, 2014 10:33am
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thavoice

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Jan 13, 2014 10:46 AM
Was it Richard from Indian Hill's house?

If so, coulda been arson from some ham-and-egger who always goes to reds games.
Jan 13, 2014 10:46am
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Big_Mirg_ZHS

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Jan 13, 2014 10:54 AM
Wally;1565819 wrote:Richard from Indian Hill's house? (You'd have to listen to WLW to understand)
thavoice;1566557 wrote:Was it Richard from Indian Hill's house?

If so, coulda been arson from some ham-and-egger who always goes to reds games.
joke already made.
Jan 13, 2014 10:54am
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thavoice

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Jan 13, 2014 10:55 AM
Big_Mirg_ZHS;1566558 wrote:joke already made.
Damn it. I even went through the posts briefly!
Jan 13, 2014 10:55am
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Jan 13, 2014 2:38 PM
gut;1566488 wrote:One modern truck should be able to contain it. I'm just going off the fact a high-rise fire in Chicago would see 5-8 engines, generally. A big part of what dictates additional engines is the chance of the fire to spread to proximity houses - not the case here.
Could location been a reason why some monster sized fire truck couldn't handle the call? This mansion isn't exactly down town. Maybe only smaller/mid size fire trucks could fit down the roads/lane just to get there.
sportchampps;1566529 wrote:I think the lack of nearby water really caused it to be a total loss. It's hard to fight a fire without water

Dude should have built a pond.
Jan 13, 2014 2:38pm
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MontyBrunswick

Jan 13, 2014 2:40 PM
lol just like richard from indians house
Jan 13, 2014 2:40pm
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Tiernan

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Jan 13, 2014 3:27 PM
justincredible;1566541 wrote:Well, it looks like you've figured it out. Have you contacted the investigators yet?
They usually contact me is how it works.
Jan 13, 2014 3:27pm
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GoChiefs

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Jan 13, 2014 3:38 PM
Tiernan;1566673 wrote:They usually contact me is how it works.
Makes sense. A lot of arson fires are alcohol fueled and if anyone can sniff out alcohol, it's Tearnan!
Jan 13, 2014 3:38pm
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Tiernan

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Jan 13, 2014 5:46 PM
WOW did you dislocate a shoulder "reaching" for that one? Not up to the usual Big Chiefs comedy standards dude. And FU anyway.
Jan 13, 2014 5:46pm