2014 Cleveland Browns Offseason Thread

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Dec 22, 2013 9:38pm
Not a fan of Carr. I like Bortles though
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Dec 22, 2013 10:01pm
Jesus Christ, hey Wes can you change the fucking thread title already?
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Dec 22, 2013 10:06pm
Commander of Awesome;1556796 wrote:Jesus Christ, hey Wes can you change the fucking thread title already?
Not sure if I can..I'm mostly on my phone
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Dec 22, 2013 10:08pm
wes_mantooth;1556799 wrote:Not sure if I can..I'm mostly on my phone
Mostly.
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Dec 22, 2013 11:28pm
wes_mantooth;1556799 wrote:Not sure if I can..I'm mostly on my phone
Oh come on, you post about all the iPads/laptops you buy on the cheap. Make it happen.

Also excuses are like tiernan everyone has one.
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Dec 22, 2013 11:30pm
Commander of Awesome;1556835 wrote:Oh come on, you post about all the iPads/laptops you buy on the cheap. Make it happen.

Also excuses are like tiernan everyone has one.
Lol....you said "asshole"
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Dec 23, 2013 12:16am
Can't win without a QB
I wish I shared your optimism that the 2 headed monster that is Banner/Lombardi could make the right decision on who that guy is.

I guess there is a first for everything though as even a blind squirrel sometimes finds a nut.

The more I think about it the more I think Manziel is going to be a Cleveland Brown. Jimmy really only cares about marketing and putting butts in the seats, so Manziel will be a dream come true for the Browns brain trust.
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Dec 23, 2013 12:44am
Commander of Awesome;1556835 wrote:Oh come on, you post about all the iPads/laptops you buy on the cheap. Make it happen.

Also excuses are like tiernan everyone has one.
Just tried, no luck....not smart enough i guess. It was easy when i was a mod, just double click beside the thread title and you could change it.
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Dec 23, 2013 7:51am
IggyPride00;1556850 wrote:I wish I shared your optimism that the 2 headed monster that is Banner/Lombardi could make the right decision on who that guy is.

I guess there is a first for everything though as even a blind squirrel sometimes finds a nut.

The more I think about it the more I think Manziel is going to be a Cleveland Brown. Jimmy really only cares about marketing and putting butts in the seats, so Manziel will be a dream come true for the Browns brain trust.
Now you're just trolling
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Dec 23, 2013 12:39pm
IggyPride00;1556850 wrote:I wish I shared your optimism that the 2 headed monster that is Banner/Lombardi could make the right decision on who that guy is.

I guess there is a first for everything though as even a blind squirrel sometimes finds a nut.

The more I think about it the more I think Manziel is going to be a Cleveland Brown. Jimmy really only cares about marketing and putting butts in the seats, so Manziel will be a dream come true for the Browns brain trust.
Of course he cares about putting people in the seats. If he didn't have people in the seats, we wouldn't have a team to root for. Are you saying that Haslem is the only owner in the NFL that cares about putting people in the seats?
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Dec 23, 2013 1:51pm
I don't think it takes the savviest of businessmen to realize that the best way to fill seats is to win.
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Dec 23, 2013 9:23pm
Mulva;1556977 wrote:I don't think it takes the savviest of businessmen to realize that the best way to fill seats is to win.
Back to one critical position. Ask Iggy what that is..
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Dec 23, 2013 9:48pm
Gotta root for the redskins next week. If they win, the Browns are looking at a top 3 pick.
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Dec 24, 2013 9:31am
Draft day trailer..... looks like it's going to suck tbh

http://movies.yahoo.com/video/draft-day-trailer-221050432.html
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Dec 24, 2013 9:55am
like_that;1557174 wrote:Draft day trailer..... looks like it's going to suck tbh

http://movies.yahoo.com/video/draft-day-trailer-221050432.html
Yea it does, worst part is I'll have to see it.
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Dec 24, 2013 12:34pm
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Dec 24, 2013 1:18pm
5 QBs in the top 10?

Derek Carr will not be going that high.
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Dec 24, 2013 1:26pm
If Mariotta comes back, that is HUGE. Would be a good week if the failskins win and mariotta officially declares.
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Dec 26, 2013 11:57am
#Browns DC Ray Horton said "personnel" is probably reason his defense gave up so many 4Q pts this season and so few last yr w/ #Cardinals.

GFY horton.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1901119-2014-nfl-draft-matt-millers-scouting-notebook-for-week-17

— If you're looking for the next Russell Wilson, check out Arizona State's Taylor Kelly. The junior quarterback wasn't on my 2014 radar until an area scout tipped me off on his game this week. After charting three games, it's tough to not like Kelly's accuracy, mobility and poise. While not expected to declare for this year's draft, Kelly is worth watching for future classes.

^ishelp?

Sign me up right now:
7. If Stanford's David Yankey leaves school for the NFL draft, he'll be the best guard in the class. He's David DeCastro-like in his technique but plays meaner at the point of attack.



Sign me up.
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Dec 27, 2013 10:45am
I was just looking over draft projections...off subject, but god, how awful does that RG3 deal look for Washington right now? The Rams are sitting pretty.
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Dec 27, 2013 11:00am
wes_mantooth;1557853 wrote:I was just looking over draft projections...off subject, but god, how awful does that RG3 deal look for Washington right now? The Rams are sitting pretty.
Everyone was saying we were stupid for not making a deal to get that pick. I thought that was ridiculous. There is NO ONE worth 3 firsts and a second or whatever the deal was. If you do your due diligence, 3 firsts and a 2nd are 4 starters. No single player can make up for 4 players. Not to mention, it's a COLLEGE kid. Those kids have proven nothing yet. I think the Browns have been smart in stockpiling picks instead of trading them all away for anything but a sure thing. Now, we can't pull the same crap previous regimes and the Cavs did an blow our picks. Whatever has been done in the past as far as draft prep, I would double it heading into this draft. With the amount of picks we have, if we hit on a large majority of them, we could be sitting in playoff contention next season.
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Dec 27, 2013 11:05am
wes_mantooth;1557853 wrote:I was just looking over draft projections...off subject, but god, how awful does that RG3 deal look for Washington right now? The Rams are sitting pretty.
It would have been terrible even if the pick was in the teens or 20's this year. No player is ever worth all of those draft picks.

What sucks for the Rams is they play in a division with the Seahawks, 49ers, and Cards so even though they fleeced the Redskins they still probably aren't making the playoffs anytime soon.
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Dec 27, 2013 11:09am
Wow wes what a difference a year makes huh? After last season, everyone was shitting on the Browns for not getting that deal done, now they're talking about dumb the skins were. No long view what so ever in today's society. Case in point:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1362335-seahawks-must-bench-russell-wilson-start-matt-flynn
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000068601/article/seattle-seahawks-should-sit-russell-wilson-and-play-matt-flynn

SMH at the author of the second article. Anyone that has a sense of history knew that RG3's success would go downhill from his first year. Defenses figure out how to play against you and running around gets you beat up. Mike Vick was the superior athlete to RG3 and even he couldn't last playing that way.
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Dec 27, 2013 11:13am
^^great comparison with Vick too.

I was def not on board with trading all those picks for RG3 at the time. But that draft was a disaster...I will never forget sitting in a bar with Fab4 when the Weeden pick was announced...people were screaming and booing and throwing food...lol. Sad that all those drunk people knew better than the previous regime..lmao
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Dec 27, 2013 11:20am
wes_mantooth;1557860 wrote:^^great comparison with Vick too.

I was def not on board with trading all those picks for RG3 at the time. But that draft was a disaster...I will never forget sitting in a bar with Fab4 when the Weeden pick was announced...people were screaming and booing and throwing food...lol. Sad that all those drunk people knew better than the previous regime..lmao
The weeden pick was one of the worst moments in my browns fanhood career. I got sick that night thinking about the next shitty 3 years of 4-12 seasons. Smh.