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                                Aug 20, 2014 7:43am
                            
                        I know those defenses are not very good but, right now, Manziel is a deer in headlights. They need to let him get acclimated to the game. We've already seen from his little hand gesture that he gets rattled and is pretty immature. If you get "butt hurt" over a "this is the NFL, we're faster than you" comment, you're a little thin skinned. How do you think he'd handle the $19.33 foam middle fingers with the "welcome to Pittsburgh, Johnny" logo on it that they are selling in Pittsburgh for Sept 7th?Pick6;1645843 wrote:I'm open to opinions, but someone please elaborate on this "sit Johnny til the bye week" logic. Is it because you don't want to "throw him to the wolves"? Sorry, the Steel Curtain is a shell of its former self. Looking at overall D, New Orleans is surprisingly ranked 4th and has a pretty solid D backfield. Ravens D has dropped off as well. Or do you want him to get more reps before he is ready? Not sure going against 2nd team an extra 3 weeks will help much.
Not agreeing or disagreeing, just trying to understand the logic.
                                        
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                                Aug 20, 2014 7:58am
                            
                        
                                Bryan Hoyer has been named the starting QB of the Cleveland Browns..
                            
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                                Aug 20, 2014 8:09am
                            
                        Shocking.Con_Alma;1645975 wrote:Bryan Hoyer has been named the starting QB of the Cleveland Browns..
 
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                                Aug 20, 2014 8:48am
                            
                        Good, now let's move on.Con_Alma;1645975 wrote:Bryan Hoyer has been named the starting QB of the Cleveland Browns..
                                        
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                                Aug 20, 2014 8:59am
                            
                        ExactlySportsAndLady;1645990 wrote:Good, now let's move on.
 
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                                Aug 20, 2014 9:00am
                            
                        
                                Hoyer is 30x the QB Manziel will ever be.  I would just go ahead and trade Manziel for a 3rd rounder before the season even starts.  He will never do anything in the NFL.
                            
                         
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                                Aug 20, 2014 10:16am
                            
                        
                                LOL espn has this as breaking news.
                            
                         
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                                Aug 20, 2014 10:17am
                            
                        That's a month wages for most pittspukersBR1986FB;1645972 wrote:How do you think he'd handle the $19.33 foam middle fingers with the "welcome to Pittsburgh, Johnny" logo on it that they are selling in Pittsburgh for Sept 7th?
                                        
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                                Aug 20, 2014 10:22am
                            
                        False. Welfare isn't considered "wages."Commander of Awesome;1646021 wrote:That's a month wages for most pittspukers
 
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                                Aug 20, 2014 10:24am
                            
                        Ytowngirlinfla;1646020 wrote:LOL espn has this as breaking news.
I got it as breaking news to my phone also.
It's a smart move, shut everyone the fuck up and get the focus off the QB battle.
                                        
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                                Aug 20, 2014 10:27am
                            
                        Con_Alma;1645975 wrote:Bryan Hoyer has been named the starting QB of the Cleveland Browns..
Iggy and Footwedge meltdown in 3.....
                                        
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                                Aug 20, 2014 10:28am
                            
                        Con_Alma;1645975 wrote:Bryan Hoyer has been named the starting QB of the Cleveland Browns..
IggyPride00;1645976 wrote:Shocking.
SportsAndLady;1645990 wrote:Good, now let's move on.
Iggy and Footwedge meltdown in 3...BR1986FB;1645996 wrote:Exactly
                                        
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                                Aug 20, 2014 10:53am
                            
                         
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                                Aug 20, 2014 11:08am
                            
                        
                                The most shocking thing in that picture is that weeden somehow made it on it twice.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Aug 20, 2014 11:17am
                            
                        Nah, that is shocking but the fact that Charlie Frye is on there for 2006 & 2007, is even more dumbfounding. Weeden was horrible but he wasn't Charlie Frye horrible.Midstate01;1646038 wrote:The most shocking thing in that picture is that weeden somehow made it on it twice.
 
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                                Aug 20, 2014 11:44am
                            
                        
                                Delhomme was the worst. Sign a 35 year old coming off of an 8 td, 18 int season to be your starter.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                Aug 20, 2014 12:24pm
                            
                        May have to pick one of those up that weekend, but I bet I could get them down to selling two for that price!BR1986FB;1645972 wrote:I know those defenses are not very good but, right now, Manziel is a deer in headlights. They need to let him get acclimated to the game. We've already seen from his little hand gesture that he gets rattled and is pretty immature. If you get "butt hurt" over a "this is the NFL, we're faster than you" comment, you're a little thin skinned. How do you think he'd handle the $19.33 foam middle fingers with the "welcome to Pittsburgh, Johnny" logo on it that they are selling in Pittsburgh for Sept 7th?
 
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                                Aug 20, 2014 12:52pm
                            
                        
                                There's just no excuse for that... that's pitiful...
                         
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                                Aug 20, 2014 1:06pm
                            
                        
                                http://football.realgm.com/src_article/2488/20140819/initial_2015_nfl_mock_draft/
Fuck this guy. Risdon shits on the browns every chance he gets.
                        Fuck this guy. Risdon shits on the browns every chance he gets.
 
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                                Aug 20, 2014 2:03pm
                            
                        Are you saying that because he picked Cleveland to have the third worst record in the nfl?Commander of Awesome;1646087 wrote:http://football.realgm.com/src_article/2488/20140819/initial_2015_nfl_mock_draft/
Fuck this guy. Risdon shits on the browns every chance he gets.
 
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                                Aug 20, 2014 2:06pm
                            
                        Yes. Every article he writes he shits on the Browns for this or that.SportsAndLady;1646104 wrote:Are you saying that because he picked Cleveland to have the third worst record in the nfl?
Before last season he was shitting on Joe Thomas, so now anyttime I read a PFF article where Thomas is the #1 rated LT (aka every tackle article), or BSPN Article, etc... I send it to him. He has yet to respond bc he's a sack of shit.
                                        
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                                Aug 20, 2014 2:07pm
                            
                        Ha that he also has Buffalo with fourth worst record.SportsAndLady;1646104 wrote:Are you saying that because he picked Cleveland to have the third worst record in the nfl?
                                        
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                                Aug 20, 2014 2:12pm
                            
                        
                                It's not entirely improbable that Cleveland & Buffalo fall at #3 & #4 but I get his point that he's pissed at Risdon for his anti-Cleveland bias. Florio from PFT used to be the same way.
                            
                         
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                                Aug 20, 2014 2:17pm
                            
                        I mean it's not crazy to think Cleveland will finish with a really bad record hahaCommander of Awesome;1646105 wrote:Yes. Every article he writes he shits on the Browns for this or that.
Before last season he was shitting on Joe Thomas, so now anyttime I read a PFF article where Thomas is the #1 rated LT (aka every tackle article), or BSPN Article, etc... I send it to him. He has yet to respond bc he's a sack of shit.
 
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                                Aug 20, 2014 2:24pm
                            
                        
                                Browns won't be picking that high this year. The panic after a 2nd preseason game is bringing the lulz here.
                            
                        