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                                                                queencitybuckeye
                                                                            
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                                Aug 21, 2014 2:51pm
                            
                        It's only been 51 years since the last great pro Heisman-winning QB. With those odds, how can Johnny Clipboard possibly not end up in Canton.Heretic;1646418 wrote:I do love how the "he won the Heisman" card is being brought up by Footwedge as this great reason Johnny should be playing. Because, man, I doubt any of us could ever come up with any Heisman winning quarterbacks who turned out to be colossal busts in the NFL or anything (or just not had real careers because their abilities didn't translate to the pro game). I mean, those don't exist, do they?!?!?
 
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                                Aug 21, 2014 5:28pm
                            
                        hahahaBR1986FB;1646404 wrote:He'll pay you in food stamps.
                                        
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                                                                Footwedge
                                                                            
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                                Aug 21, 2014 8:09pm
                            
                        You need Roger Stauback's phone number? Manziel should be playing because...A. He outplayed Hoyer in the so called competition, and...B. He gives the Browns the best chance to win...RIGHT NOW.Former NFL player Bucky Brooks is spot on here.http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000381221/article/johnny-manziel-should-have-been-cleveland-browns-pick-at-qbHeretic;1646418 wrote:I do love how the "he won the Heisman" card is being brought up by Footwedge as this great reason Johnny should be playing. Because, man, I doubt any of us could ever come up with any Heisman winning quarterbacks who turned out to be colossal busts in the NFL or anything (or just not had real careers because their abilities didn't translate to the pro game). I mean, those don't exist, do they?!?!?
                                        
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                                                                Footwedge
                                                                            
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                                Aug 21, 2014 8:16pm
                            
                        Backed into a corner? Really. Anybody who lays claim to Manziel winning the Heisman as a 20 year old is ...well...a fucking idiot. It's that simple sweet cheeks. As John McEnroe would say. "you cannot be serious" "The chalk flew up". LOLOLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQ_Ja02gTYvball10set;1646372 wrote:You can always tell that someone's backed into a corner when they resort to name calling....amirite?
 
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                                Aug 21, 2014 10:12pm
                            
                        
                                Hey footwedge..man up and take the bet you were talking so much shit about you *****.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                Al Bundy
                                                                            
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                                Aug 21, 2014 11:17pm
                            
                        Want to make a bet on Maanziel's age when he won the Heisman?Footwedge;1646494 wrote:Backed into a corner? Really. Anybody who lays claim to Manziel winning the Heisman as a 20 year old is ...well...a fucking idiot. It's that simple sweet cheeks. As John McEnroe would say. "you cannot be serious" "The chalk flew up". LOLOLhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekQ_Ja02gTY
 
                                                                GoChiefs
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 12:48am
                            
                        Why the fuck would Pettine start Manziel when Manziel himself said he wasn't ready???Footwedge;1646370 wrote:No, fat boy...the Manziel backers want what is best for the Cleveland Browns right now. And no...he didn't look like complete shit in the preseason. That title belongs to Hoyer. I posted the numbers. You forget that Manziel didn't make even one bad throw in the Detroit game. Can Hoyer say the same?Like I said above, Pettine is sackless and he placated to the national pundits...like Esiason and Jaws, instead of awarding the job to the guy that performed the best so far.
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 7:33am
                            
                        
                                Driving in and flipping stations, I caught a piece of 92.3 and good old Chuck Booms, wishing & hoping Hoyer fails so his boy can get in there. But of course he says "I'd never wish anything bad for the Browns" while he's already guaranteeing Hoyer will be 0-3 by the bye.
                            
                         
                                                                SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 7:53am
                            
                        I don't know why you even botherBR1986FB;1646575 wrote:Driving in and flipping stations, I caught a piece of 92.3 and good old Chuck Booms, wishing & hoping Hoyer fails so his boy can get in there. But of course he says "I'd never wish anything bad for the Browns" while he's already guaranteeing Hoyer will be 0-3 by the bye.
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 7:59am
                            
                        Not a whole lot of choices for sports talk in Cleveland. Was posting that, mostly as an example, to show some of the idiots that we have as "fans."SportsAndLady;1646577 wrote:I don't know why you even bother
 
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                                Aug 22, 2014 8:10am
                            
                        I would rather listen to modern pop FM stations over local Cleveland radio lolBR1986FB;1646580 wrote:Not a whole lot of choices for sports talk in Cleveland. Was posting that, mostly as an example, to show some of the idiots that we have as "fans."
 
                                                                like_that
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 10:05am
                            
                        
                                Sooooo, its been a week now (since last week it was reported the NFL needs another week to make up its mind) and we are 1 day away from the 3rd preseason game (which the NFL also said they would make their decision in "timely matter" aka by the 3rd preseason game).  Why has there not been a decision on Gordon?
                            
                         
                                                                Heretic
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 10:10am
                            
                        Stauback? Lol, lol, lol, lol and more lol.Footwedge;1646491 wrote:You need Roger Stauback's phone number? Manziel should be playing because...A. He outplayed Hoyer in the so called competition, and...B. He gives the Browns the best chance to win...RIGHT NOW.Former NFL player Bucky Brooks is spot on here.http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000381221/article/johnny-manziel-should-have-been-cleveland-browns-pick-at-qb
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 10:15am
                            
                        Maybe he was thinking of that movie where two ex-Cowboy QB's (Roger & Aikman) become lovers? You know, "Stauback Mountin'?"Heretic;1646609 wrote:Stauback? Lol, lol, lol, lol and more lol.
                                        
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                                                                Footwedge
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 5:38pm
                            
                        John Feinstein on the CBS Sports Minute today said it's a sure bet that Manziel takes over in game 4 this year. In fact he said that Manziel taking over is a higher probability than Otto Graham arising from the dead and playing quarterback this year.Any respectable football coach would play the player that won the competition. I quess Pettine wants to please Hoyer's Cleveland based parents here. Little league anyone? Anyone?DeyDurkie5;1646401 wrote:Footwedge wants us to play a rookie qb who has no grasp of the playbook(see his gruden qb camp), no understanding of making reads and audibling over a veteran guy with nfl starts under his belt all because he did well in college. I mean it's to the point where I want to renig on this bet of ours because I don't think the moron has a 100 dollars to give me when I win
 
                                                                like_that
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 5:41pm
                            
                        That's not that high of a probability...Footwedge;1646728 wrote:John Feinstein on the CBS Sports Minute today said it's a sure bet that Manziel takes over in game 4 this year. In fact he said that Manziel taking over is a higher probability than Otto Graham arising from the dead and playing quarterback this year.Any respectable football coach would play the player that won the competition. I quess Pettine wants to please Hoyer's Cleveland based parents here. Little league anyone? Anyone?
                                        
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                                                                Footwedge
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 5:43pm
                            
                        Manziel also said that no one should take his comments out of context....which you clearly have. He made the comment 3 weeks before the opener numb nuts. And what he was saying indirectly was that he will be ready in 3 weeks.What J Football should have added..." I may not be ready yet, but I've proven by the numbers to be more ready than the undrafted free agent out of Michigan State".GoChiefs;1646564 wrote:Why the fuck would Pettine start Manziel when Manziel himself said he wasn't ready???
                                        
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                                                                Footwedge
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 5:48pm
                            
                        Every game Manziel played in winning the Heisman was done as a teenager. So yeahf you idiot, I'll be happy to take your action.Al Bundy;1646551 wrote:Want to make a bet on Maanziel's age when he won the Heisman?
 
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                                Aug 22, 2014 6:24pm
                            
                        Any argument you had is ruined because Feinstein is a fucking retard. He also tried saying that Nascar should be able to tell their drivers they can't race in dirt tracks in THEIR OWN time. I've never agreed with his stance on any CBS minute cuz he's a retard.Footwedge;1646728 wrote:John Feinstein on the CBS Sports Minute today said it's a sure bet that Manziel takes over in game 4 this year. In fact he said that Manziel taking over is a higher probability than Otto Graham arising from the dead and playing quarterback this year.Any respectable football coach would play the player that won the competition. I quess Pettine wants to please Hoyer's Cleveland based parents here. Little league anyone? Anyone?
                                        
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                                                                thavoice
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 6:30pm
                            
                        Well fuck, Bernie Kosar has a higher probability than Otto Graham...Footwedge;1646728 wrote:John Feinstein on the CBS Sports Minute today said it's a sure bet that Manziel takes over in game 4 this year. In fact he said that Manziel taking over is a higher probability than Otto Graham arising from the dead and playing quarterback this year.Any respectable football coach would play the player that won the competition. I quess Pettine wants to please Hoyer's Cleveland based parents here. Little league anyone? Anyone?
 
                                                                GoChiefs
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 8:05pm
                            
                        He just said it again yesterday that he still wasn't ready.Footwedge;1646730 wrote:Manziel also said that no one should take his comments out of context....which you clearly have. He made the comment 3 weeks before the opener numb nuts. And what he was saying indirectly was that he will be ready in 3 weeks.What J Football should have added..." I may not be ready yet, but I've proven by the numbers to be more ready than the undrafted free agent out of Michigan State".
On Hoyer being named the starter:
"Obviously I didn't want this to be the outcome," Manziel said. "But at the same time, I didn't necessarily feel I was ready, I felt like there were steps that I needed to take, and I need to take, to get better."
You want someone that thinks that leading your team right now? You are an idiot.
                                        
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                                Aug 22, 2014 9:48pm
                            
                        You did not need the first sentence to qualify the second sentence. FW is an idiot.GoChiefs;1646749 wrote:You want someone that thinks that leading your team right now? You are an idiot.
 
                                                                DeyDurkie5
                                                                            
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                                Aug 22, 2014 9:54pm
                            
                        Cool. Great. Wonderful.Footwedge;1646728 wrote:John Feinstein on the CBS Sports Minute today said it's a sure bet that Manziel takes over in game 4 this year. In fact he said that Manziel taking over is a higher probability than Otto Graham arising from the dead and playing quarterback this year.Any respectable football coach would play the player that won the competition. I quess Pettine wants to please Hoyer's Cleveland based parents here. Little league anyone? Anyone?
So, some dude on CBS Sports Minute says it's gonna happen, that means it's going to happen? Do you realize how retarded you sound?
Just pay up if you lose.
 
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                                Aug 23, 2014 9:11am
                            
                        
                                Who's broadcasting tonights game?
                            
                         
                                                                Classyposter58
                                                                            
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                                Aug 23, 2014 1:25pm
                            
                        
                                I will say though the things Manziel did against Alabama makes me a firm believer that he can be a great NFL QB. He is made for a midwest franchise though, that swagger and personality he has could make him a legend in Cleveland