2013 General College Football Thread

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queencitybuckeye
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Dec 11, 2013 12:23pm
se-alum;1552011 wrote:I know you have to buy a lesser house making 4 million a year, than you do if you make 10 million a year. It's crazy to say an extra 6M/yr wouldn't change anything.
"Have to" is factually incorrect.

Never said "wouldn't change anything". Terrible paraphrase.
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sleeper
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Dec 11, 2013 12:23pm
Me?;1551989 wrote:That's an absurd notion. It's quite literally the same thing as saying "There is no lifestyle difference between $30,000 a year and $65,000"...yes, there is.
Not at that level of money there isn't. This is like saying there is a lifestyle difference between $10,030,000 and $10,065,000. LOL
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like_that
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Dec 11, 2013 12:24pm
se-alum;1552011 wrote:I know you have to buy a lesser house making 4 million a year, than you do if you make 10 million a year. It's crazy to say an extra 6M/yr wouldn't change anything.
An extra 6 million gives a lot more flexibility. An extra million would as well. To think otherwise is completely idiotic.
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Dec 11, 2013 12:24pm
queencitybuckeye;1552008 wrote:Putting aside the absurd lifestyle argument (if you're on SQ's side, suffice to say you're being stupid - rethink), if UT were to offer Meyer $10M, that tOSU wouldn't/couldn't counter with something that would keep him in Columbus?
OSU would counter but not at $10M. I don't want Urban for $10M or any coach.
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queencitybuckeye
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Dec 11, 2013 12:26pm
sleeper;1552017 wrote:OSU would counter but not at $10M. I don't want Urban for $10M or any coach.
Unlikely it would take that.
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queencitybuckeye
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Dec 11, 2013 12:28pm
sleeper;1552014 wrote:Not at that level of money there isn't. This is like saying there is a lifestyle difference between $10,030,000 and $10,065,000. LOL
To take it to its absurd conclusion, it would be like saying Bill Gates has lifestyle options that Warren Buffett doesn't.
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Dec 11, 2013 12:31pm
queencitybuckeye;1552022 wrote:To take it to its absurd conclusion, it would be like saying Bill Gates has lifestyle options that Warren Buffett doesn't.
Poor people.
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LJ
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Dec 11, 2013 12:57pm
Me?;1551989 wrote:That's an absurd notion. It's quite literally the same thing as saying "There is no lifestyle difference between $30,000 a year and $65,000"...yes, there is.
Not even close
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Dec 11, 2013 1:00pm
Me?;1551989 wrote:That's an absurd notion. It's quite literally the same thing as saying "There is no lifestyle difference between $30,000 a year and $65,000"...yes, there is.
That is a terrible comparison.
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centralbucksfan
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Dec 11, 2013 1:01pm
I HIGHLY doubt money is the driving force with Meyer or Saban. You can only spend so much money in your life. At this point in there careers, these guys have stocked more money away and invested more money than we could ever imagine. Meyer is supposedly #2 on Texas wish list, Saban #1. I doubt either one ends up leaving. If they do, they are doing it because of who they are, competators/coaches who love a challenge. Making a move to Texas from Bama or OSU isn't going to be for the money IMO.
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queencitybuckeye
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Dec 11, 2013 1:08pm
Automatik;1552039 wrote:That is a terrible comparison.
It is. To put a practical spin on it, how many houses are there in the Columbus Ohio area that someone making $10M could afford that someone making half of that couldn't? Bet you can count them on your hands.
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Con_Alma
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Dec 11, 2013 1:09pm
Ego is often times the driving force when you get to that level. $$$$ is the scoreboard for the ego.

The hope for Meyer to stay is that there's something more that is desired that OSU has and will keep him in Columbus.
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vball10set
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Dec 11, 2013 1:16pm
centralbucksfan;1552040 wrote: At this point in there careers, these guys have stocked more money away and invested more money than anyone on here but me could ever imagine.
/sleeper'd
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Dec 11, 2013 1:16pm
queencitybuckeye;1552042 wrote:It is. To put a practical spin on it, how many houses are there in the Columbus Ohio area that someone making $10M could afford that someone making half of that couldn't? Bet you can count them on your hands.
Also remember its 4.5 vs 10 mil per year, not one lump sum. I doubt there are less than 5 in Columbus or Austin.
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Dec 11, 2013 1:23pm
queencitybuckeye;1552013 wrote:"Have to" is factually incorrect.

Never said "wouldn't change anything". Terrible paraphrase.
So all things equal, if I told you I would give you 4M or 10M, you would take the 4M because you just really don't need the extra 6M? I doubt it.
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centralbucksfan
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Dec 11, 2013 1:33pm
se-alum;1552049 wrote:So all things equal, if I told you I would give you 4M or 10M, you would take the 4M because you just really don't need the extra 6M? I doubt it.
College football discussion? ;)
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queencitybuckeye
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Dec 11, 2013 1:35pm
se-alum;1552049 wrote:So all things equal, if I told you I would give you 4M or 10M, you would take the 4M because you just really don't need the extra 6M? I doubt it.
Again, I said nothing of the sort, as in the situation being discussed all things aren't equal. If I was making 4+ large a year at "home", would I make a lateral job move over a thousand miles away for $10M? Probably not.

BTW, just to attempt to put to bed the nonsensical "lifestyle" argument - I was unable to find out how many homes there are in the Columbus area that someone making $10M could afford that someone making half of that could not. I was able, however, to determine how many such homes are currently for sale. The number is zero. The highest priced single family homes currently on the market are listed at around 3.5 million, easily affordable by someone making $4-5M per year. Easily.
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Dec 11, 2013 1:43pm
se-alum;1552049 wrote:So all things equal, if I told you I would give you 4M or 10M, you would take the 4M because you just really don't need the extra 6M? I doubt it.
I hate when people ask this. A statement is made on a situation that is completely unequal, then someone says "well all things equal wouldn't you?". Well duh, but things aren't equal, which is why the point was made in the first place.
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queencitybuckeye
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Dec 11, 2013 1:45pm
LJ;1552061 wrote:I hate when people ask this. A statement is made on a situation that is completely unequal, then someone says "well all things equal wouldn't you?". Well duh, but things aren't equal, which is why the point was made in the first place.
If it makes him feel better, if all were truly equal, I'm willing to stipulate that I'd prefer more money to less.
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MontyBrunswick
Dec 11, 2013 1:48pm
Sources: Nick Saban house shopping in Bowling Green, OH.
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Dec 11, 2013 2:12pm
It's twice the money. No matter if it's 1 dollar to 2 dollars or 100 million to 200 million, it's doubled. It is not a horrible comparison unless you're horrible at math. People making 10 million a year CAN live a very different lifestyle than those making 5 million. How could you even say they couldn't? You could SPEND 5 million extra dollars a year on whatever and still have what you were making before on top of it. It's absolutely absurd to say it doesn't make a difference.
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Dec 11, 2013 2:15pm
So, if you're making $60,000 a year right now and someone offered you $120,000 a year, your life wouldn't be different and that wouldn't be a driving force behind your decision to take it or not? It's all relative from a math standpoint, just because the numbers have a few more zeros doesn't mean it's a bad comparison.
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queencitybuckeye
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Dec 11, 2013 2:19pm
Me?;1552082 wrote:People making 10 million a year CAN live a very different lifestyle than those making 5 million. How could you even say they couldn't?
It's easy. What's the number one most expensive possession for nearly all of us? A house. I've already shown that there are zero houses that Meyer can't afford that he could if he made twice as much. They don't fucking exist. How hard is that to understand?
You could SPEND 5 million extra dollars a year on whatever and still have what you were making before on top of it. It's absolutely absurd to say it doesn't make a difference.
On what? Spending more money does NOT automatically equate to an elevated lifestyle.
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queencitybuckeye
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Dec 11, 2013 2:22pm
Me?;1552084 wrote:So, if you're making $60,000 a year right now and someone offered you $120,000 a year, your life wouldn't be different and that wouldn't be a driving force behind your decision to take it or not? It's all relative from a math standpoint, just because the numbers have a few more zeros doesn't mean it's a bad comparison.
A driving force? I don't think anyone attempted to deny that. THE driving force? Not necessarily. Too many other factors come into play (family, cost of living just to name a couple).
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Dec 11, 2013 2:26pm
Me?;1552084 wrote:So, if you're making $60,000 a year right now and someone offered you $120,000 a year, your life wouldn't be different and that wouldn't be a driving force behind your decision to take it or not? It's all relative from a math standpoint, just because the numbers have a few more zeros doesn't mean it's a bad comparison.
Income has a diminishing effect on someone's lifestyle at a certain point. That exact point is arguable, but I would say making over $1 million per year is above that point of diminishment