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MontyBrunswick
Jan 12, 2014 11:32am
Bullshit. I can write him off as a failure because he's failed at every job the past 10 years.Azubuike24;1566209 wrote:However, it's way too early to write him off as a failure as a HC because of how young he is.
It'd be one thing if he showed improvement, but he's not done anything to show me he is cut out to be a competent coach.
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vball10set
Posts: 24,795
Jan 12, 2014 12:14pm
Is James Franklin black, white, or mixed?

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 12, 2014 12:55pm
Not yet, no. However, he's had 3 HC jobs sooner than many guys even get into coaching.dlazz;1566214 wrote:Bullshit. I can write him off as a failure because he's failed at every job the past 10 years.
It'd be one thing if he showed improvement, but he's not done anything to show me he is cut out to be a competent coach.
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MontyBrunswick
Jan 12, 2014 12:57pm
That means nothing.Azubuike24;1566241 wrote:However, he's had 3 HC jobs sooner than many guys even get into coaching.
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 12, 2014 12:58pm
And to my point, why?Azubuike24;1566241 wrote:Not yet, no. However, he's had 3 HC jobs sooner than many guys even get into coaching.

Azubuike24
Posts: 15,933
Jan 12, 2014 1:12pm
Because his dad won a Super Bowl with a team whose offense wasn't ranked in the top 20 and was one of the originators of a defensive scheme that is built into almost every defense today? I think it's obvious why Lane was given opportunities others weren't. I'm not at all saying he deserved those chances, but it's a unique circumstance that really doesn't have any comparisons considering his age.
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centralbucksfan
Posts: 5,111
Jan 13, 2014 9:08am
I agree with Azu, Saban is not going to leg Kiffin do anything that will hurt the Bama program. I am sure this was discussed. From what I read, this was a couple week process where Kiffin was at Bama before being hired. Sounds as though both Kiffin and Saban took time to get to know eachother and discuss things.
Was Kiffin that success at USC as an offensive coordinator, OR was it Pete and the players that made him look good? I am not sure anyone knows. He was abviously NOT a good head coach. But that could be attributed to his youth, lack of head coaching experience. Let alone taking over a major programs before even being a head coach.
What will be interesting to watch, is how much Saban allows Kiffin to do. Obviously, he was known for letting the ball fly. Well, that is not Saban philosophy. And lets be honest, Saban is a control freak. Will he loosen things or will he hog tie Kiffin? If so, we'll see how long Kiffin stays at Bama. Will be interesting to see how things develop.
Was Kiffin that success at USC as an offensive coordinator, OR was it Pete and the players that made him look good? I am not sure anyone knows. He was abviously NOT a good head coach. But that could be attributed to his youth, lack of head coaching experience. Let alone taking over a major programs before even being a head coach.
What will be interesting to watch, is how much Saban allows Kiffin to do. Obviously, he was known for letting the ball fly. Well, that is not Saban philosophy. And lets be honest, Saban is a control freak. Will he loosen things or will he hog tie Kiffin? If so, we'll see how long Kiffin stays at Bama. Will be interesting to see how things develop.

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 13, 2014 2:40pm
Kiffin and Saban on the same staff just seems like an explosive situation. Will be interesting to see how it works out.

karen lotz
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Jan 13, 2014 7:42pm
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MontyBrunswick
Jan 13, 2014 8:37pm
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Jan 14, 2014 11:19am
I concur.
Most any place else then he may be a problem, but Saban will have enough control over him that I don tthink it will be a problem.
They also will be breaking in a new QB so who knows how that will go
Most any place else then he may be a problem, but Saban will have enough control over him that I don tthink it will be a problem.
They also will be breaking in a new QB so who knows how that will go
Azubuike24;1566125 wrote:Saban runs a pretty tight ship at Bama. Unlike some of the other coaches in the SEC (and around the country). Every place is going to have it's malcontents, but regardless, any trouble they do have seems to be kept in-house and guys tend to really be under wraps. It's kind of like Duke with Coach K
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WebFire
Posts: 14,779
Jan 14, 2014 11:31am
I think it may be a problem with Kiffin. He doesn't seem to be the puppet type. We shall see.thavoice;1567072 wrote:I concur.
Most any place else then he may be a problem, but Saban will have enough control over him that I don tthink it will be a problem.
They also will be breaking in a new QB so who knows how that will go

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 14, 2014 2:14pm
Georgia has hired Jeremy Pruitt away from FSU. Kinda surprising, but it's supposedly a $300k raise lol. Can't blame him.

Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Jan 14, 2014 3:21pm
Yeah it sucks to lose him as an FSU fan as he is a great DC. Its actually at 350K raise but I'm sure FSU was planning on giving him more money but doubt it was that much.wildcats20;1567134 wrote:Georgia has hired Jeremy Pruitt away from FSU. Kinda surprising, but it's supposedly a $300k raise lol. Can't blame him.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 14, 2014 3:31pm
Gotta think he got the head coach in waiting tag at Georgia as well.

Lovejoy1984
Posts: 5,277
Jan 14, 2014 5:15pm
I may be the only one, however Monte Kiffin may be one of the more overrated coaches we've seen. His defenses have been terrible once he lost Warren Sapp, John Lynch, Derrick Brooks, and Simeon Rice. Every other stop he's had defense has been awful, see the fact that his own son had to fire him at USC, and by how awful the Cowboys defense was this season.Azubuike24;1566250 wrote:Because his dad won a Super Bowl with a team whose offense wasn't ranked in the top 20 and was one of the originators of a defensive scheme that is built into almost every defense today? I think it's obvious why Lane was given opportunities others weren't. I'm not at all saying he deserved those chances, but it's a unique circumstance that really doesn't have any comparisons considering his age.
I think Monte just got lucky, and fell into a team with 3-4 potential HOF members on its Defense crafted a scheme to fit them, and has been riding that success ever since.

Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 14, 2014 6:05pm
Isn't Richt a little young to make a move like that?Midstate01;1567164 wrote:Gotta think he got the head coach in waiting tag at Georgia as well.

LJ
Posts: 16,351
Jan 14, 2014 6:08pm
Way too young, 53Mulva;1567214 wrote:Isn't Richt a little young to make a move like that?

se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 14, 2014 6:29pm
Can't imagine Richt would make a deal like that, especially since he's presumably been on the hot seat for awhile.

Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 14, 2014 9:38pm
But those close to him think he's done after 2 more years.

sherm03
Posts: 7,349
Jan 14, 2014 10:40pm
Brian Kelly promoted Mike Denbrock to OC. But Kelly will be calling the plays.
Apparently, Kelly interviewed Al Borges. So I am thankful that we ND fans dodged a bullet on that one.
Apparently, Kelly interviewed Al Borges. So I am thankful that we ND fans dodged a bullet on that one.

#1DBag
Posts: 786
Jan 15, 2014 6:36am
I just realized the final year of the BCS is also the final year of the EA Sports video game.

Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Jan 15, 2014 2:34pm
Sad too. A playoff would have kicked ass#1DBag;1567394 wrote:I just realized the final year of the BCS is also the final year of the EA Sports video game.

Mohican00
Posts: 3,394
Jan 15, 2014 4:34pm
it might have been just the incentive for me to go out and buy that dumb ass game again

wildcats20
Posts: 27,794
Jan 15, 2014 7:44pm
Vic Beasley returning to Clemson.