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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 2, 2013 7:08pm
I'd be less concerned using a 3rd rounder on Bray than #6 on Smith.Mulva;1418703 wrote:He tore apart Tyler Bray too.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Apr 2, 2013 8:18pm
The 49ers got Nnambi for 1.3 mill? Did we even fucking try?
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 2, 2013 8:21pm
bases_loaded;1418753 wrote:The 49ers got Nnambi for 1.3 mill? Did we even fucking try?
I think it was more about him wanting a championship. No way he would have considered Cleveland imo
Dr. KnOiTaLL
Posts: 2,682
Apr 2, 2013 8:40pm
He personally requested NO guaranteed money.wes_mantooth;1418755 wrote:I think it was more about him wanting a championship. No way he would have considered Cleveland imo
CLEconomically Speaking
Posts: 401
Apr 2, 2013 11:32pm
I'm glad I've got someone else on the Bray-waggon with meBR1986FB;1418708 wrote:I'd be less concerned using a 3rd rounder on Bray than #6 on Smith.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 2, 2013 11:37pm
dude, we aren't taking a QB in round 1. Banner has literally come out and said this. I don't get why people are acting like Geno at 6 is an ACTUAL possibility.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 3, 2013 1:53am
i highly doubt we end up picking at 6. Too many teams need that franchise LT.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 3, 2013 8:10am
I'm not on the "Bray-waggon." I just think that's the guy they will target. He's probably the closest thing to Mallett in this draft and we know Lombardi loves him some Mallett.CLEconomically Speaking;1418878 wrote:I'm glad I've got someone else on the Bray-waggon with me
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 3, 2013 8:11am
Taking him at 6 would make me sick. Now if we had a 2nd rounder and he fell that far I'd be fine with it. He should be taken in the 20's or later, not top 5-10.DeyDurkie5;1418879 wrote:dude, we aren't taking a QB in round 1. Banner has literally come out and said this. I don't get why people are acting like Geno at 6 is an ACTUAL possibility.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 3, 2013 10:51am
I don't understand this logic...whether we miss on a QB in RD1 or RD3, we're still missing on a QB, again.BR1986FB;1418708 wrote:I'd be less concerned using a 3rd rounder on Bray than #6 on Smith.
We need a franchise QB..if you don't think there is one in this draft, don't just waste a 3rd round pick.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 3, 2013 10:52am
Now you know how most Browns fans felt with our 22nd pick last yearBR1986FB;1418930 wrote:Taking him at 6 would make me sick.
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BR1986FB
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Apr 3, 2013 11:09am
Because a #6 pick had better be as close to "can't miss" as possible. You don't use a top 10 pick on a developmental QB, which Smith is. One would prefer to use a 4th rounder and later for a developmental type guy (Holmgren was famous for this when he coached...took one every year).SportsAndLady;1418994 wrote:I don't understand this logic...whether we miss on a QB in RD1 or RD3, we're still missing on a QB, again.
We need a franchise QB..if you don't think there is one in this draft, don't just waste a 3rd round pick.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 3, 2013 11:10am
Had we taken him at 6, I'd agree. He maybe could've been had at the top of the 2nd round. Using a #6, this year, on a younger version of the same QB would be stupid.SportsAndLady;1418995 wrote:Now you know how most Browns fans felt with our 22nd pick last year
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 3, 2013 11:11am
McCoy keeping it classy...
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/3/4178604/colt-mccoy-no-hard-feelings-browns
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/3/4178604/colt-mccoy-no-hard-feelings-browns
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 3, 2013 11:14am
Not surprised..McCoy is all class.BR1986FB;1419007 wrote:McCoy keeping it classy...
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/3/4178604/colt-mccoy-no-hard-feelings-browns
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 3, 2013 11:17am
BR1986FB;1419005 wrote:Because a #6 pick had better be as close to "can't miss" as possible. You don't use a top 10 pick on a developmental QB, which Smith is. One would prefer to use a 4th rounder and later for a developmental type guy (Holmgren was famous for this when he coached...took one every year).
My point is more that we need a QB, but we shouldn't just be taking QBs just to see if they'll pan out. If they believe in Smith, take him. If they believe in Bray, take him. I personally don't think they believe in either, so don't fucking take them.BR1986FB;1419006 wrote:Had we taken him at 6, I'd agree. He maybe could've been had at the top of the 2nd round. Using a #6, this year, on a younger version of the same QB would be stupid.
We're still QB-less for another year, but I'd rather not waste a pick.
We have to learn from last year..we took Weeden just because we needed to take a QB. But we didn't actually believe he'd be really good. It was a terrible pick. So why not pass on him and everyone else until you actually believed in one (cough cough Russ Wilson in the 3rd round).
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Apr 3, 2013 11:30am
If we draft another qb in the 1st rd I'll shoot myself in the face.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Apr 3, 2013 11:53am
This puts me on the Geno bandwagon.derek bomar;1419017 wrote:If we draft another qb in the 1st rd I'll shoot myself in the face.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Apr 3, 2013 12:31pm
Exactly, he was pretty much shit on by everyone...but he handled things about well as anyone could.SportsAndLady;1419012 wrote:Not surprised..McCoy is all class.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Apr 3, 2013 2:03pm
Weren't you the one that posted we should take a QB in the 1st round every year until we found a good one?SportsAndLady;1419015 wrote:My point is more that we need a QB, but we shouldn't just be taking QBs just to see if they'll pan out. If they believe in Smith, take him. If they believe in Bray, take him. I personally don't think they believe in either, so don't fucking take them.
We're still QB-less for another year, but I'd rather not waste a pick.
We have to learn from last year..we took Weeden just because we needed to take a QB. But we didn't actually believe he'd be really good. It was a terrible pick. So why not pass on him and everyone else until you actually believed in one (cough cough Russ Wilson in the 3rd round).
And lol at the Browns drafting Weeden just because they needed to take a QB, but didn't actually believe he'd be really good. That's pretty far out there. You don't draft a player, any player, in the 1st round thinking they won't be really good.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 3, 2013 2:29pm
royal_k;1419105 wrote:Weren't you the one that posted we should take a QB in the 1st round every year until we found a good one?
And lol at the Browns drafting Weeden just because they needed to take a QB, but didn't actually believe he'd be really good. That's pretty far out there. You don't draft a player, any player, in the 1st round thinking they won't be really good.
H&H were on their way out and had one last chance to keep their jobs so they panicked and took a QB who was 30 years old thinking he'd be NFL ready. I highly doubt anyone saw clips or workouts of Brandon Weeden and came away very impressed, and thinking he's worthy of a first round pick. Hence why he was projected outside of the first round.
As for your first point, I said take the best QB available until you eventually hit. If they don't feel a QB is worthy, then don't waste a pick on one. Simple.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Apr 3, 2013 2:36pm
OK....So they did think he'd be a good QB?SportsAndLady;1419127 wrote:H&H were on their way out and had one last chance to keep their jobs so they panicked and took a QB who was 30 years old thinking he'd be NFL ready. I highly doubt anyone saw clips or workouts of Brandon Weeden and came away very impressed, and thinking he's worthy of a first round pick. Hence why he was projected outside of the first round.
As for your first point, I said take the best QB available until you eventually hit. If they don't feel a QB is worthy, then don't waste a pick on one. Simple.
And by your logic, drafting a QB until they hit, could lead to a lot of wasted draft picks.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Apr 3, 2013 2:39pm
And the book is still out on Weeden. The coaching staff, you, I, or anybody else doesn't know how good he'll be yet.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 3, 2013 3:37pm
royal_k;1419129 wrote:OK....So they did think he'd be a good QB?
And by your logic, drafting a QB until they hit, could lead to a lot of wasted draft picks.
No one thought Weeden would be a good QB. Look at his stats when hurried in the pocket at ok state, they weren't good. And he wasn't good last year, the jury is definitely not still out on him.
Tigerfan00
Posts: 3,427
Apr 3, 2013 4:50pm
Nosportsandnolady up to his usual Im going to avoid comments Ive made in the past and act like I know what Im talking about. There is no QB in this draft even worth talking about or wasting a pick on. The Browns need to load up on the defense and Oline and worry about a QB next year.
Geno Smith will be the most overrated QB in this draft.
Geno Smith will be the most overrated QB in this draft.