2013 Cleveland Browns Thread: RIP Chud

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Mar 20, 2013 12:29pm
It's a stupid rule but it's all in the league's effort to show they are making the game safer. The game is pretty violent and physical, but that allows them to demand a premium in pay during their career. Start cutting their pay accordingly and this problem goes away; you can start with Flacco's ridiculous salary.
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Mar 20, 2013 12:32pm
thavoice;1409854 wrote:They said that rule should about the RB shouldnt happen very often....has to be outside the tacklebox in the open field. We shall see.

Players want the safety....they are going to get the extra rules.
I was going to say....how do you prevent a RB from lowering his head on goal line plays? Impossible.
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Mar 20, 2013 12:34pm
sleeper;1409856 wrote:It's a stupid rule but it's all in the league's effort to show they are making the game safer. The game is pretty violent and physical, but that allows them to demand a premium in pay during their career. Start cutting their pay accordingly and this problem goes away; you can start with Flacco's ridiculous salary.
They took away the defenders ability to lead with the helmet to protect offensive players. Now they're reciprocating to make the defense happy.
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Mar 20, 2013 12:35pm
BR1986FB;1409862 wrote:They took away the defenders ability to lead with the helmet to protect offensive players. Now they're reciprocating to make the defense happy.
The slow progression towards flag football. At this rate, we'll be there in 5 years.
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Mar 20, 2013 12:37pm
I found it amusing that New England abstained from the vote on the tuck rule.
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Mar 20, 2013 12:44pm
BR1986FB;1409867 wrote:I found it amusing that New England abstained from the vote on the tuck rule.

New England and Washington. And then Pitt was the only team to vote to keep it lol
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Mar 20, 2013 12:55pm
like_that;1409853 wrote:I haven't heard anything about that, but that is complete bullshit if they did. WTF do they expect RB's to do?
Under new rule, this would be illegal. SMFH

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Mar 20, 2013 1:01pm
Commander of Awesome;1409885 wrote:Under new rule, this would be illegal. SMFH

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That play is specifically why they were trumpeting this new rule. I'd heard Richardson was the "poster boy/child" for the new rule.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:03pm
Trading up for the 3rd pick to select a RB is looking better and better....
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Mar 20, 2013 1:07pm
BR1986FB;1409893 wrote:That play is specifically why they were trumpeting this new rule. I'd heard Richardson was the "poster boy/child" for the new rule.
Good call NFL. It was def trich's fault coleman tried to tackle him with his chest. :rolleyes:
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Mar 20, 2013 1:09pm
Commander of Awesome;1409895 wrote:Trading up for the 3rd pick to select a RB is looking better and better....

In 5 years we'll look at that draft and think how horrible it was and how much further back it put us as a franchise.

I love me some t rich, but a rb just isn't a position that you spend a top 3 pick on and expect to get instantly better as a team.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:22pm
BR1986FB;1409831 wrote:Unless they can trade down to get Warmack, I'd have no issue if they traded out of the 1st round altogether, got a 2nd & a 3rd this year along with another 1st (and more) for next year.
SMH.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:22pm
SportsAndLady;1409904 wrote:In 5 years we'll look at that draft and think how horrible it was and how much further back it put us as a franchise.

I love me some t rich, but a rb just isn't a position that you spend a top 3 pick on and expect to get instantly better as a team.
I don't think so. This is a bit dramatic. Just look at the 08 and 09 draft and compare it to last years draft. Trich is still a beast, winn/hughes were great mid/late round pickups, JMJ would be a solid starter, and let's not forget Gordon. That draft has more good than bad, and sure as hell more good than any previous draft as a whole.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:23pm
When weeden gets us to the playoffs, you guys will be renigging yourselves.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:26pm
se-alum;1409924 wrote:SMH.
Oh well...don't see all of this "talent" in this draft that others do. Warmack is the only one that I think is "can't miss" for areas of need.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:28pm
BR1986FB;1409932 wrote:Oh well...don't see all of this "talent" in this draft that others do. Warmack is the only one that I think is "can't miss" for areas of need.
I agree with this, but not to the point where I would want to give up the first round pick for the year.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:31pm
SportsAndLady;1409904 wrote:In 5 years we'll look at that draft and think how horrible it was and how much further back it put us as a franchise.

I love me some t rich, but a rb just isn't a position that you spend a top 3 pick on and expect to get instantly better as a team.
This is how I feel too. I think trich is a great player; top 5 RB for sure. The problem is the league is slowly transforming from a run first league to a pass first league. It's basically becoming a game of, who can rush the QB fast enough before he can pick apart your secondary. The best way to spend your picks, in this order is:

1. O-Line
2. D-Line
3. CB
4. LB
5. WR/TE

The best thing a RB can do is learn how to block and catch a pass.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:32pm
like_that;1409937 wrote:I agree with this, but not to the point where I would want to give up the first round pick for the year.
If they can load up on draft picks for 2014, when they might actually be looking for a QB, I'm all for it.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:35pm
BR1986FB;1409932 wrote:Oh well...don't see all of this "talent" in this draft that others do. Warmack is the only one that I think is "can't miss" for areas of need.
Clowney is really the only known commodity in next years draft. So, we trade our first rounder this year in hopes that we can get a "can't miss" guy that fits our needs next year?
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Mar 20, 2013 1:35pm
I mean you can pretty much book the fact that SF got to the Superbowl and is a great team; they have a ridiculous D-line/LB core. Their CBs are okay, but they could just shred through O-lines like butter.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:38pm
se-alum;1409941 wrote:Clowney is really the only known commodity in next years draft. So, we trade our first rounder this year in hopes that we can get a "can't miss" guy that fits our needs next year?
If they don't see someone that "wows" them (there isn't anyone really like that in this draft except Warmack, to me), sure move down as much as possible. Belichick does it all the time and Lombardi worked hand in hand with the Hoodie.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:40pm
BR1986FB;1409893 wrote:That play is specifically why they were trumpeting this new rule. I'd heard Richardson was the "poster boy/child" for the new rule.
but that is not "open field" its between the tackles so wouldnt it be legal?
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Mar 20, 2013 1:42pm
BR1986FB;1409946 wrote:If they don't see someone that "wows" them (there isn't anyone really like that in this draft except Warmack, to me), sure move down as much as possible. Belichick does it all the time and Lombardi worked hand in hand with the Hoodie.
Do you not see the slight difference between the Browns and the Patriots?? Easy to move down when you're one of the best teams in the league.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:44pm
se-alum;1409950 wrote:Do you not see the slight difference between the Browns and the Patriots?? Easy to move down when you're one of the best teams in the league.
Yeah, I know there's a difference. When there's little difference in player #5 through #35, it doesn't matter if you move down & stockpile.
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Mar 20, 2013 1:46pm
se-alum;1409950 wrote:Do you not see the slight difference between the Browns and the Patriots?? Easy to move down when you're one of the best teams in the league.
Franchise players are found across the board in round 1. Moving down is not that big of a deal, especially when you get more picks.