SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 20, 2013 8:59am
Touchdowns?wes_mantooth;1409674 wrote:Yeah, sucks that Phil is gone, but that money can be used better somewhere else. It would be awesome if we could actually score touchdowns.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Mar 20, 2013 10:54am
yeah, I hear that stuff happens in other cities...i have no link to support that statement though
CLEconomically Speaking
Posts: 401
Mar 20, 2013 11:41am
Depending on who is available at 6: Dion Jordan, Dee Milliner (maybe Ansah).. I see 5 teams that could have incentive to trade up=> Dolphins, Bucs, Panthers all need CB and Saints and Steelers need OLB. If a trade is available, would you rather see the Browns trade down or stay put and select one of these guys?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 20, 2013 11:54am
I will opt to trade down anytime. Unless the Browns ever get to the point where we are one or two pieces away from being a Superbowl contender; I always opt for a trade down. I'd want something similar to the trade with the Falcons that netted them Julio Jones. Their 1st, 2nd and 4th this year, and their first and 4th next year.CLEconomically Speaking;1409803 wrote:Depending on who is available at 6: Dion Jordan, Dee Milliner (maybe Ansah).. I see 5 teams that could have incentive to trade up=> Dolphins, Bucs, Panthers all need CB and Saints and Steelers need OLB. If a trade is available, would you rather see the Browns trade down or stay put and select one of these guys?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 20, 2013 11:55am
I wouldn't trade with the Steelers if it were the last trade on earth. They can GFT.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 20, 2013 11:56am
Lot of good that trade did us.... I'm sick of trading down and passing up elite talent.sleeper;1409809 wrote:I will opt to trade down anytime. Unless the Browns ever get to the point where we are one or two pieces away from being a Superbowl contender; I always opt for a trade down. I'd want something similar to the trade with the Falcons that netted them Julio Jones. Their 1st, 2nd and 4th this year, and their first and 4th next year.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 20, 2013 11:56am
Trade down.CLEconomically Speaking;1409803 wrote:Depending on who is available at 6: Dion Jordan, Dee Milliner (maybe Ansah).. I see 5 teams that could have incentive to trade up=> Dolphins, Bucs, Panthers all need CB and Saints and Steelers need OLB. If a trade is available, would you rather see the Browns trade down or stay put and select one of these guys?
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 20, 2013 11:57am
BS. You'd do it if it was a trade rape.Commander of Awesome;1409811 wrote:I wouldn't trade with the Steelers if it were the last trade on earth. They can GFT.
GoChiefs
Posts: 16,754
Mar 20, 2013 11:57am
Commander of Awesome;1409811 wrote:I wouldn't trade with the Steelers if it were the last trade on earth. They can GFT.
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like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 20, 2013 11:59am
The talent is much more evenly distributed this year. Dion Jordan isn't at the level of the "elite" talent that came out of that draft. Also, I would imagine we would trade down only a few spots, unlike the #22 spot. Not only do we still have a valuable pick, but the team they traded for would most likely be shitty and provide a very good pick the following year. I.E Cardinals.Commander of Awesome;1409812 wrote:Lot of good that trade did us.... I'm sick of trading down and passing up elite talent.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 20, 2013 11:59am
It would have to be about 10 first round picks.sleeper;1409814 wrote:BS. You'd do it if it was a trade rape.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 20, 2013 11:59am
Ended up being Julio Jones for Phil Taylor, Greg Little, Owen Marecic, Weeden, and James Michael Johnson. Does anyone really think that trade didn't benefit us greatly?Commander of Awesome;1409812 wrote:Lot of good that trade did us.... I'm sick of trading down and passing up elite talent.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 20, 2013 12:04pm
Niners will win the SB next year. Many a people have won a title after leaving Cleveland.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 20, 2013 12:08pm
This is the final tally for those picks: defensive tackle Phil Taylor (Atlanta's 2011 first-round pick), wide receiver Greg Little (2011 second-round pick), fullback Owen Marecic (2011 fourth-round pick) and quarterback Brandon Weeden (2012 first-round pick). Cleveland also used a 2012 fourth-round pick in that deal as part of the package to trade up one spot for running back Trent Richardson.sleeper;1409818 wrote:Ended up being Julio Jones for Phil Taylor, Greg Little, Owen Marecic, Weeden, and James Michael Johnson. Does anyone really think that trade didn't benefit us greatly?
Wasn't JMJ, Marecic was a fucking waste, Weeden was a waste so its basically Jones for Taylor and Little.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 20, 2013 12:11pm
And we know how the Steelers enjoy a good rape.sleeper;1409814 wrote:BS. You'd do it if it was a trade rape.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 20, 2013 12:11pm
It was Julio Jones for Taylor Little and a share of Richardson. What a terrible trade. Julio Jones would have led us to 9 Superbowls! :laugh:Commander of Awesome;1409823 wrote:This is the final tally for those picks: defensive tackle Phil Taylor (Atlanta's 2011 first-round pick), wide receiver Greg Little (2011 second-round pick), fullback Owen Marecic (2011 fourth-round pick) and quarterback Brandon Weeden (2012 first-round pick). Cleveland also used a 2012 fourth-round pick in that deal as part of the package to trade up one spot for running back Trent Richardson.
Wasn't JMJ, Marecic was a fucking waste, Weeden was a waste so its basically Jones for Taylor and Little.
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 20, 2013 12:11pm
Trading down to get more picks can be a very effective way to build a team, but you have to have legit talent evaluaters to make sure you get the right guys.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 20, 2013 12:12pm
I suppose its more of a fail of Heckert and Holmgren. Didn't waste the pick on Weeden or Marecic it wouldn't look so bad.sleeper;1409827 wrote:It was Julio Jones for Taylor Little and a share of Richardson. What a terrible trade. Julio Jones would have led us to 9 Superbowls! :laugh:
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 20, 2013 12:12pm
Unless they can trade down to get Warmack, I'd have no issue if they traded out of the 1st round altogether, got a 2nd & a 3rd this year along with another 1st (and more) for next year.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Mar 20, 2013 12:12pm
Well yeah. I still think Weeden was a joke of a pick.Commander of Awesome;1409829 wrote:I suppose its more of a fail of Heckert and Holmgren. Didn't waste the pick on Weeden or Marecic it wouldn't look so bad.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 20, 2013 12:16pm
Esp when he could have been had in the 2ndsleeper;1409832 wrote:Well yeah. I still think Weeden was a joke of a pick.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 20, 2013 12:25pm
Apparently the running back rule (no leading with the helmet) and the elimination of the tuck rule were passed at the owners meetings. Trent Richardson be hurtin'....
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 20, 2013 12:28pm
No guys that Weeden pick was a good pick for our future! Just ask iggy, there's so much excitement in Cleveland!
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 20, 2013 12:28pm
I haven't heard anything about that, but that is complete bullshit if they did. WTF do they expect RB's to do?BR1986FB;1409847 wrote:Apparently the running back rule (no leading with the helmet) and the elimination of the tuck rule were passed at the owners meetings. Trent Richardson be hurtin'....
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thavoice
Posts: 14,376
Mar 20, 2013 12:28pm
They said that rule should about the RB shouldnt happen very often....has to be outside the tacklebox in the open field. We shall see.
Players want the safety....they are going to get the extra rules.
Players want the safety....they are going to get the extra rules.