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Feb 7, 2013 12:17 AM
Indians showing interest in Michael Bourn per Buster Olney

I like the sounds of that, but if we're gonna spend more money, why didn't we invest in more pitching when it was available?
Feb 7, 2013 12:17am
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Feb 7, 2013 7:26 AM
CLEconomically Speaking;1384136 wrote:Indians showing interest in Michael Bourn per Buster Olney

I like the sounds of that, but if we're gonna spend more money, why didn't we invest in more pitching when it was available?

Bourn would be a perfect fit for what we need. Get it done
Feb 7, 2013 7:26am
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Feb 7, 2013 9:02 AM
CLEconomically Speaking;1384136 wrote:Indians showing interest in Michael Bourn per Buster Olney

I like the sounds of that, but if we're gonna spend more money, why didn't we invest in more pitching when it was available?
Not going to happen. As I have said before, if I were a MLB fa, I would go to the tribe to jack my price up for another team to sign me.
Feb 7, 2013 9:02am
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Feb 7, 2013 10:31 AM
I head Tribe, among many other teams, are interested. But they are waiting for the price tag to drop significantly. That means, imo, it will likely drop, but not far enough for Cleveland. I see it dropping into another teams price range...while we are in a range unto ourselves.
Feb 7, 2013 10:31am
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Feb 7, 2013 11:55 AM
Two things. One, this would definitely get the Dolans back on my goodside. Two, think about that depth: Brantley, Stubbs, Bourn, Swisher, Carrerra. Swisher can play first. No more Kotchman, Damon, Duncan, Cunningham, Lopez games.

I really hope this Yan Gomes turns out, we desperately need a viable option at catcher not named Lou Marson.
Feb 7, 2013 11:55am
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Feb 7, 2013 1:08 PM
CLEconomically Speaking;1384471 wrote:Two things. One, this would definitely get the Dolans back on my goodside. Two, think about that depth: Brantley, Stubbs, Bourn, Swisher, Carrerra. Swisher can play first. No more Kotchman, Damon, Duncan, Cunningham, Lopez games.

I really hope this Yan Gomes turns out, we desperately need a viable option at catcher not named Lou Marson.

That would allow Swish and Santana to DH a little more as well.
Feb 7, 2013 1:08pm
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Feb 7, 2013 2:11 PM
It would be a great signing, and give them a lot more versatility. But....we are talking about the Dolans.
Feb 7, 2013 2:11pm
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Feb 7, 2013 9:46 PM
Jordan Bastian of mlb.com speculates that Asdrubal Cabrera will be traded befori next year's winter meetings, but remember Chris Antonetti called Cabrera the "shortstop of the future"

Does Bastian's speculation carry weight? Is this a move to rebuild the farm or Is Lindor ready? What's your take?
Feb 7, 2013 9:46pm
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Feb 7, 2013 9:56 PM
CLEconomically Speaking;1384837 wrote:Jordan Bastian of mlb.com speculates that Asdrubal Cabrera will be traded befori next year's winter meetings, but remember Chris Antonetti called Cabrera the "shortstop of the future"

Does Bastian's speculation carry weight? Is this a move to rebuild the farm or Is Lindor ready? What's your take?

Lindor still has at least a year or 2 before he's ready. I think this year is big to see what Chiz has. If he doesn't have it I would be ok with moving drubs to 3rd when Lindor is ready
Feb 7, 2013 9:56pm
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Feb 8, 2013 12:13 AM
CLEconomically Speaking;1384471 wrote:Two things. One, this would definitely get the Dolans back on my goodside. Two, think about that depth: Brantley, Stubbs, Bourn, Swisher, Carrerra. Swisher can play first. No more Kotchman, Damon, Duncan, Cunningham, Lopez games.

I really hope this Yan Gomes turns out, we desperately need a viable option at catcher not named Lou Marson.
It would be great....saddling the wretched Stubbs to the bench.
Feb 8, 2013 12:13am
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Feb 8, 2013 12:55 AM
Footwedge;1384923 wrote:It would be great....saddling the wretched Stubbs to the bench.
Shut it GrossI. I've had it with your negativity
Feb 8, 2013 12:55am
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Feb 8, 2013 8:11 AM
Tribes inks Aviles to a two year deal with an option. keeps open the possibility of a Druby trade if the the right deal comes along. (Lindor NOT ready for prime time yet). Cost of the deal is $3mill/year.
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Feb 9, 2013 10:00 PM
CLEconomically Speaking;1384931 wrote:Shut it GrossI. I've had it with your negativity
You want negativity? Ask all the reds fans about Stubbs. Bourne is 10 times the player. But I'm not worried, Stubbs won't play with or without Bourne.
Feb 9, 2013 10:00pm
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Feb 9, 2013 11:58 PM
Laley23;1384347 wrote:I head Tribe, among many other teams, are interested. But they are waiting for the price tag to drop significantly. That means, imo, it will likely drop, but not far enough for Cleveland. I see it dropping into another teams price range...while we are in a range unto ourselves.
I think Bourn is going to be seeking a 1 year deal at this point where ever he goes, and then try free agency again next year.

That is a classic Scott Boras tactic when a market doesn't develop as he had hoped for his clients. He did the same thing with Beltre a few years ago, and then he parlayed that strong 1 year deal into a 5 year deal the next year.

Unless he pulls a long term deal out of his ass for Bourn, I think he is going to the highest bidder as a 1 year rental.

I could actually see the Dolan's considering a 1 year $10-13 million deal, which is probably the range he is looking for if that is the route they go. I just don't see anyone ponying up the 7 year deal Boras was looking for at the start of the off-season, and usually he will take the 1 year deal over a 2-3 year deal every day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Feb 9, 2013 11:58pm
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Feb 10, 2013 12:31 AM
I'd love to have Bourne at 1 yr 12-13 mill. At that point you go all in and try to sign lohse too to try and win the division
Feb 10, 2013 12:31am
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Feb 10, 2013 1:11 AM
Lohse back in the AL Central at that price? Steer clear...
Feb 10, 2013 1:11am
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Feb 10, 2013 9:00 AM
I could actually see the Dolan's considering a 1 year $10-13 million deal, which is probably the range he is looking for if that is the route they go. I just don't see anyone ponying up the 7 year deal Boras was looking for at the start of the off-season, and usually he will take the 1 year deal over a 2-3 year deal every day of the week and twice on Sundays
Agree with this.

LOL on Giambi. I'd rather have Thome.
But apparently the Indians wouldn't.....http://www.mlbdailydish.com/2013/2/8/3967038/mlb-rumors-indians-jim-thome-no-longer-an-option
Feb 10, 2013 9:00am
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Feb 10, 2013 9:41 AM
42 f'n years old....lmao

This FO always looks for the cheap lightning in a bottle. But this goes beyond that.
Feb 10, 2013 9:41am
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Feb 10, 2013 10:33 AM
Bourne will also cost a first round draft pick right? Paying a lot for him.
Feb 10, 2013 10:33am
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Feb 10, 2013 11:30 AM
hasbeen;1386156 wrote:Bourne will also cost a first round draft pick right? Paying a lot for him.
Wrong. First round pick is protected (top ten pick) and the second was already spent in signing Swisher. It would only be a third round pick, and Cleveland has two.
Feb 10, 2013 11:30am
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Feb 10, 2013 12:08 PM
Tribe signed dice-k to a minor league deal
Feb 10, 2013 12:08pm
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Feb 10, 2013 6:54 PM
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