Footwedge;1367872 wrote:Sorry to pop your bub there Steak. I'm the biggest cleveland homer in seeing silver linings. But...I put the over/under at 69 wins this year.

Indians starting pitching is still pathetic. The only upgrade position wise is first base...and not by much either. I would rather have Choo in right over Swisher...every time.

More homers is suppose to equal more runs. Not with this line up.

At least we have a manager who will play to win. People like Ubaldo will be yanked in the first or second inning when necesary.

No more 10-1 deficits going to the third inning.

Footwedge;1367873 wrote:Tigers should win this division by 12-15 games this year. There is no comparison between them and the rest of the division. I agree...they are the best team in the AL.

Classyposter58;1368538 wrote:Yeah glad I don't sound like too big of a homer, but realistically this team has a good 2B now, replaced Young with Torii Hunter and have VMart back as a DH. Plus they're four deep in the rotation

Classyposter58;1368596 wrote:I don't know many teams with an ace like Verlander and then three guys that are consistetly in the mid 3's

Footwedge;1367872 wrote:Sorry to pop your bub there Steak. I'm the biggest cleveland homer in seeing silver linings. But...I put the over/under at 69 wins this year.

Indians starting pitching is still pathetic. The only upgrade position wise is first base...and not by much either. I would rather have Choo in right over Swisher...every time.

More homers is suppose to equal more runs. Not with this line up.

At least we have a manager who will play to win. People like Ubaldo will be yanked in the first or second inning when necesary.

No more 10-1 deficits going to the third inning.

stlouiedipalma;1373413 wrote:Saw today where Young signed with someone else. Anything that weakens the Tigers makes me happy.

HitsRus;1373171 wrote:This is a difficult team to put an over/under on, but if you offering, I'll take over 69. I think there is a lot of upside on both the starting pitching, and the offense. There are a lot of young players that are still developing (Santana, Chisenhall, Kipnis, Brantley, Stubbs, Masterson.) I disagree about the outfield....Stubbs/Brantley/Swisher >>> Brantley/Choo/and AAAA Left fielders. There is so much more offensive potential in Chiz at 3rd, vs .220 hitting Jack Hannahan. You need pop in the bats of your corner infielders. Kotchman and Hannahan...ehhhhhh not so much. At least there is potential.

Masterson is still a developing player. It took Sabathia a few years to be an "ace". I think this will be Mastersons 3rd year as a starter.

Put me down as a guy who thinks the Tigers will easily win the division....but not necessarily because the Tribe will be bad. I really like the way the Kitties do their business. They identify what the weak parts of the team are, and they agressively pursue the solution, with their owner stepping up and making sure it happens.

Footwedge;1374038 wrote:I'm not saying that this team doesn't have some things to be excited about. They do. But I strongly disagree that our outfield is better than last year. Swisher hit in one on the friendliest parks in baseball surrounded by future HOfers. His numbers are not nearly as good as Choo's...not to mention Choo is a much better outfielder and base runner.

And Drew Stubbs will make all tribe fans throw up in their mouths a little. The last 2 years showed a combined 225 batting average. Really, really bad for a guy who can run. Over that same period, he struck out more often than Russell Branyan ever did. Not gonna look it up...but his strikeout ratio is probably on a par with Adam Dunn.

Our 4A left fielders>>than Stubbs.

As for our pitching....the future would seem a lot brighter if Pomeranz and White were going to camp...just sayin.

The tribe very easily could set the all time record for strike outs....and it will be interesting following that chase all season.

HitsRus;1378823 wrote:TheTribe has give former Twins reliever Matt Capps a minor league contract and an invitaton to spring training....Capps is coming off an injury shortened season.
http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130131&content_id=41294722&vkey=news_cle&c_id=cle

Travis Hafner is close to signing with the New York Yankees...
If he does...will "Pronk" be re-nickamed "Prank"?

HitsRus;1378823 wrote:TheTribe has give former Twins reliever Matt Capps a minor league contract and an invitaton to spring training....Capps is coming off an injury shortened season.
http://cleveland.indians.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20130131&content_id=41294722&vkey=news_cle&c_id=cle

Travis Hafner is close to signing with the New York Yankees...
If he does...will "Pronk" be re-nickamed "Prank"?