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Aug 14, 2012 9:24 AM
Big Gain;1246249 wrote:Undoubtedly Sandusky shared his boys with other boosters. That is never a one time deal, men with perversion LOVE to share, LOVE to tell of their escapades, LOVE to share secrets, LOVE to have pictures or tapes, LOVE to share those.....
You seem to know a lot about perverts...
Aug 14, 2012 9:24am
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Aug 14, 2012 9:30 AM
HitsRus;1246373 wrote:That's a really good question. Another example of over the top NCAA action. The NCAA at least had grounds(improper benefits) a definite violation of clearly written rules. Still the sanctions were excesive considering the amount of such amounted to pocket change.
Tressels' coverup did not provide improper benefits, so with your argument, they had no grounds to punish.
Aug 14, 2012 9:30am
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Aug 14, 2012 9:34 AM
gosh the president of the university accepts the sanctions, the large majority of the trustees accept the sanctions. they realize their institution is responsible for covering up these horrendous crimes
I think that is in an inaccurate way of portraying the feelings of the President and the trustees....it appears that they were coerced into accepting the sanctions lest they lose the football program entirely.
Aug 14, 2012 9:34am
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Aug 14, 2012 10:05 AM
gosh lets see, there is an enormous scandal involving despicable crimes involving the leaders of the university, athletic department and football programs. The university trustees have a thorough investigation done by an independent group of legal and law enforcement professionals lead by a former director of the FBI. The investigation shows an enormous coverup by the above listed leaders. The trustees and new president accept the findings of the investigation. The ncaa uses the university's own investigtion as the basis for determining instituional punishment for the obvious failure of psu. When the university's new president and trustess receives it very lenient slap on the wrist, they readily accept it
Aug 14, 2012 10:05am
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Aug 14, 2012 11:17 AM
^^^^Maybe you should read their comments.
Aug 14, 2012 11:17am
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Aug 14, 2012 11:34 AM
WebFire;1246334 wrote:So why did all the innocent people and the community at OSU have to suffer for Tressel's cover up? It was just the action of one man.
Because it gave the players a competitive advantage by not having to sit out multiple games for rules violations.
Aug 14, 2012 11:34am
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Aug 14, 2012 11:37 AM
sleeper;1246483 wrote:Because it gave the players a competitive advantage by not having to sit out multiple games for rules violations.
The team was punished separately for that. The cover up was treated as a different case.
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Aug 14, 2012 11:45 AM
sleeper;1246483 wrote:Because it gave the players a competitive advantage by not having to sit out multiple games for rules violations.
It is my opinion that PSU had a recruiting advantage by not reporting the wrongdoings of Sandusky.
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Aug 14, 2012 11:46 AM
sleeper;1246483 wrote:Because it gave the players a competitive advantage by not having to sit out multiple games for rules violations.
And, back to my original question, it is still the action of 1 man. Why should everyone else suffer?
Aug 14, 2012 11:46am
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Aug 14, 2012 11:56 AM
WebFire;1246504 wrote:And, back to my original question, it is still the action of 1 man. Why should everyone else suffer?
Is Ohio State suffering? News to me, we got the best coach in the game and one of the best recruiting classes in the nation. If anyone's suffering, it's Michigan. Enjoy 7 straight losses.
Aug 14, 2012 11:56am
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Aug 14, 2012 11:57 AM
WebFire;1246501 wrote:It is my opinion that PSU had a recruiting advantage by not reporting the wrongdoings of Sandusky.
As evidenced by all their recruits leaving because of the rapes :rolleyes:
Aug 14, 2012 11:57am
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Aug 14, 2012 12:43 PM
Tressels' coverup did not provide improper benefits, so with your argument, they had no grounds to punish
Tressel violated a reporting agreement/rule.
Aug 14, 2012 12:43pm
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Aug 14, 2012 12:55 PM
As evidenced by all their recruits leaving because of the rapes

How many wanted out before the sanctions were put in place??
Aug 14, 2012 12:55pm
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Aug 14, 2012 12:56 PM
HitsRus;1246582 wrote:How many wanted out before the sanctions were put in place??
Zero.
Aug 14, 2012 12:56pm
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Aug 14, 2012 1:17 PM
^^^^wow...kind of makes you think:D
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Aug 14, 2012 2:50 PM
Um, why would they want out about something they didn't know about?
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Aug 14, 2012 2:52 PM
HitsRus;1246568 wrote:Tressel violated a reporting agreement/rule.
Right. So it goes beyond a direct improper benefit. Which is what you (or sleeper, I don't remember which) was using as an argument.
Aug 14, 2012 2:52pm
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Aug 14, 2012 2:52 PM
sleeper;1246524 wrote:Is Ohio State suffering? News to me, we got the best coach in the game and one of the best recruiting classes in the nation. If anyone's suffering, it's Michigan. Enjoy 7 straight losses.
I see. So that 6-7 season didn't happen. And neither is this year's post season ban.
Aug 14, 2012 2:52pm
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Aug 14, 2012 2:55 PM
WebFire;1246700 wrote:I see. So that 6-7 season didn't happen. And neither is this year's post season ban.
6-7 happens when you play in the best conference in the country and you lose the vast majority of your upperclassman and have to play with a green QB all season long. The bowl ban doesn't bother me, we will beat Michigan and you can take that to the bank.
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Aug 14, 2012 3:05 PM
sleeper;1246703 wrote:6-7 happens when you play in the best conference in the country and you lose the vast majority of your upperclassman and have to play with a green QB all season long. The bowl ban doesn't bother me, we will beat Michigan and you can take that to the bank.
yeah ok man.
Aug 14, 2012 3:05pm
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Aug 14, 2012 3:23 PM
WebFire;1246710 wrote:yeah ok man.
How does it futility feel? Knowing that you have your best team in decades and they still will get the wood handed to them in November. Good game, sir, good game.
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Aug 14, 2012 3:31 PM
sleeper;1246725 wrote:How does it futility feel? Knowing that you have your best team in decades and they still will get the wood handed to them in November. Good game, sir, good game.
Huh?
Aug 14, 2012 3:31pm
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Aug 14, 2012 3:43 PM
WebFire;1246733 wrote:Huh?
I'm calling it now. Shut out in November. Ohio State 35 Michigan 0.
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Aug 14, 2012 3:46 PM
Ah ok. Wanna bet an iPad on it?
Aug 14, 2012 3:46pm
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Aug 14, 2012 3:48 PM
Heard today that another charge may be pending against Sandusky. Uncovered during an investigation by the USPS, that he may have molested kids on a private plane owned by a donor to his charity. Also, PSU has been put on alert by one of the Accreditation bodies.
Aug 14, 2012 3:48pm