Who are your top 5 hitters in MLB?

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May 15, 2012 7:57 PM
SportsAndLady;1172266 wrote:I don't have the stats on it, but Votto almost always seems to K swinging.

Could be 100% wrong..

Right. Which means he must be swinging at bad pitches. He is too good of a hitter to swing and miss at good pitches, wouldn't you say?
May 15, 2012 7:57pm
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May 15, 2012 8:04 PM
Past 5 phenoms that I can recall (hitting wise).

Justin Upton
Tim Beckman
Mauer
Adrian Gonzalez
Josh Hamilton

Now Harper. I realize he hasnt played much. But it isnt ridiculous, at all, to speculate he will have similar paths as those guys. Heck, he is better at his age than they were (maybe not Hamilton). Hitters with THIS much hype have seemed to pan out. Griffey, Chipper, and A-Rod also come to mind, as does Evan Longoria. Darrin Erstad had some hype and Pat the Bat.

Beckman and Delmon Young are the only guys who never even had an All-Star year of the top players of the last 25ish years coming out.
May 15, 2012 8:04pm
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May 15, 2012 8:06 PM
He also went 0-fer against the Reds this past weekend.
May 15, 2012 8:06pm
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May 15, 2012 8:06 PM
karen lotz;1172270 wrote:Right. Which means he must be swinging at bad pitches. He is too good of a hitter to swing and miss at good pitches, wouldn't you say?
I am retarded
May 15, 2012 8:06pm
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May 15, 2012 8:12 PM
karen lotz;1172270 wrote:Right. Which means he must be swinging at bad pitches. He is too good of a hitter to swing and miss at good pitches, wouldn't you say?
That's not what it means at all. His swing rate for pitches outside the zone is well below the league average for his career, and it's even lower than that this year.

His swing rate for pitches inside the zone is also well above league average. Even the best hitters swing and miss at pitches inside the zone.
May 15, 2012 8:12pm
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May 15, 2012 8:14 PM
My bad. Votto is a better hitter than Ted Williams.
May 15, 2012 8:14pm
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May 15, 2012 8:25 PM
My bad, I'll keep letting you make sweeping generalizations without calling you out on it.
May 15, 2012 8:25pm
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May 15, 2012 8:30 PM
He's too good of a hitter to strike out that much. He's swinging at pitches he can't hit. He's still a great hitter, one of the best in baseball. You asked why he doesn't have the best eye in my opinion, I tell you, you tell me my opinion is wrong. Interesting.
May 15, 2012 8:30pm
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May 15, 2012 8:31 PM
Terrible sports conversation Mooney.
May 15, 2012 8:31pm
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May 15, 2012 8:38 PM
But I didn't disagree with your assessment that he strikes out too much to have the best eye, just your reasoning that he's swinging at bad pitches, as if no good hitter ever swings and misses at a good pitch. <~~~this is what you are implying by saying that if he strikes out swinging it must be a bad pitch

The difference between a hitter like Pujols and a hitter like Votto is not their eye, it's their swing. Pujols contact rate is higher, and that has nothing to do with having a good eye, it's eye-hand coordination: getting your hands through the zone to make contact with the pitch that your eye has recognized is hittable.

Also, unlike you, if I tell you your opinion is wrong, its because I've looked it up and that stats don't agree with your assessment. If you'd like to do the old-school "I go by what my eyes see, not what stats say" BS, be my guest. I prefer facts and figures.
May 15, 2012 8:38pm
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May 15, 2012 8:43 PM
Sweeping generalization by you. I didn't say good hitters never swing end miss at good pitches. Votto is too good of a hitter to have poor hand eye coordination. He swings at pitches he can't hit.
May 15, 2012 8:43pm
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May 15, 2012 8:47 PM
Either way, Votto is a great hitter. Now I'm going to try to enjoy this Cincinnati/Atlanta game. You should do the same.
May 15, 2012 8:47pm