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May 13, 2012 3:49 PM
Commander of Awesome;1169086 wrote:It was pretty much LJ who started the mocking of users for using the feature.
Yes, yes it was.
May 13, 2012 3:49pm
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May 13, 2012 3:50 PM
lhslep134;1169087 wrote:That's the dumbest f*cking thing I've ever heard
lhslep134;1169090 wrote:I hear he knows things
Our first warning, that was quick. This thread wasn't a joke or a "please be good, guys" thing. Like I've said, the rules are getting enforced across the board. Keep this in the basement where it belongs. I don't think that is too much to ask.
May 13, 2012 3:50pm
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why so serious?

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May 13, 2012 3:50 PM
LJ;1169092 wrote:You trying to get the first warning?
You would think obvious sarcasm is obvious.

If you feel making an obvious joke is warning worthy, feel free to abuse your power.
May 13, 2012 3:50pm
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May 13, 2012 3:51 PM
like_that;1169103 wrote:Yes, yes it was.
Yes, it was. And like we said, that's over. We're all on the same page now and we are serious about making this work this time.
May 13, 2012 3:51pm
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May 13, 2012 3:52 PM
lhslep134;1169106 wrote:You would think obvious sarcasm is obvious.

If you feel making an obvious joke is warning worthy, feel free to abuse your power.
I guess I abused my power.
May 13, 2012 3:52pm
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May 13, 2012 3:52 PM
justincredible;1169104 wrote:Our first warning, that was quick. This thread wasn't a joke or a "please be good, guys" thing. Like I've said, the rules are getting enforced across the board. Keep this in the basement where it belongs. I don't think that is too much to ask.
I understand you are trying to clean everything up, but there is a fine line between cleaning everything up, and people just getting their feelings hurt over the internet.
May 13, 2012 3:52pm
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why so serious?

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May 13, 2012 3:53 PM
justincredible;1169104 wrote:Our first warning, that was quick. This thread wasn't a joke or a "please be good, guys" thing. Like I've said, the rules are getting enforced across the board. Keep this in the basement where it belongs. I don't think that is too much to ask.
So we're not allowed to make obvious jokes? That's f*cking retarded.

Both of my jokes were clear sarcasm, Mooney's because he mentioned 3 times someone will likely/has responded like that, and the LJ one because you mentioned it in the OP.

WTF is wrong with you guys, that's actually a serious question not a joke.
May 13, 2012 3:53pm
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May 13, 2012 3:53 PM
Just asking Justin, where do people's signatures fall into the new rules?
May 13, 2012 3:53pm
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May 13, 2012 3:54 PM
like_that;1169113 wrote:I understand you are trying to clean everything up, but there is a fine line between cleaning everything up, and people just getting their feelings hurt over the internet.

Who has hurt feelings? It has nothing to do with feelings and everything to do with threads being hijacked over and over and over and over with the same things.
May 13, 2012 3:54pm
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May 13, 2012 3:55 PM
Commander of Awesome;1169115 wrote:Just asking Justin, where do people's signatures fall into the new rules?
I would say that signatures that have something that falls against the rules would need to be changed.
May 13, 2012 3:55pm
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May 13, 2012 3:57 PM
This is a legit question as well. IF LJ posts with a substantive or implicative Mr. Know it All attitude are we allowed to post such or would that be violating the "LJ knows everything" prohibition?

I agree saying it for the sake of saying it is the trolling you're trying to avoid, but I mean saying someone is being a Mr. Know It All is not something that would be unique to LJ
May 13, 2012 3:57pm
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May 13, 2012 3:57 PM
LJ;1169118 wrote:Who has hurt feelings? It has nothing to do with feelings and everything to do with threads being hijacked over and over and over and over with the same things.
I would answer your first question, but it seems as if i will get an infraction for honestly answering that questions, so I won't.

It has a lot to do with feelings. A "LJ knows everything" comment does nothing to derail a thread. People lol at your expense, and move on with the discussion. Plenty of other reasons why threads get derailed.
May 13, 2012 3:57pm
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May 13, 2012 3:58 PM
lhslep134;1169122 wrote:This is a legit question as well. IF LJ posts with a substantive or implicative Mr. Know it All attitude are we allowed to post such or would that be violating the "LJ knows everything" prohibition?
I would like to know this as well, because it will most likely happen.
May 13, 2012 3:58pm
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May 13, 2012 3:59 PM
lhslep134;1169114 wrote:So we're not allowed to make obvious jokes? That's f*cking retarded.

Both of my jokes were clear sarcasm, Mooney's because he mentioned 3 times someone will likely/has responded like that, and the LJ one because you mentioned it in the OP.

WTF is wrong with you guys, that's actually a serious question not a joke.
Maybe the obvious jokes shouldn't go directly against the rules we just made a point to reiterate?

As for what's wrong with me, I'm not 100% sure. I'd imagine a lot of it has to do with the lack of a relationship with my father.
May 13, 2012 3:59pm
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May 13, 2012 3:59 PM
While we're at it, could we crack down on the dragging someone's choice of favorite teams into a conversation that has nothing to do with it? I've had multiple times where I've experienced "LOL this coming from a Mooney fan" or "A Notre Dame fan WOULD say that" has been lobbed as some sort of argument against me when its not even a discussion about sports. I realize I'm kind of asking for it with my username, but I've had this thing on this site from its inception, and on other sites since 2002, so its a bit late for that.
May 13, 2012 3:59pm
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May 13, 2012 4:01 PM
I think excessive whining should be an infractionable offense as well.
May 13, 2012 4:01pm
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May 13, 2012 4:01 PM
like_that;1169123 wrote:I would answer your first question, but it seems as if i will get an infraction for honestly answering that questions, so I won't.

It has a lot to do with feelings. A "LJ knows everything" comment does nothing to derail a thread. People lol at your expense, and move on with the discussion. Plenty of other reasons why threads get derailed.

You can think whatever you want. Guess I am being a "know it all" for knowing my own feelings. If you dont like what i bring on certain topics, ignore me. If I am wrong, prove me wrong. Goes with all posters towards others.
May 13, 2012 4:01pm
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May 13, 2012 4:02 PM
Commander of Awesome;1169130 wrote:I think excessive whining should be an infractionable offense as well.
As should reporting posts that have nothing in them against the rules.
May 13, 2012 4:02pm
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May 13, 2012 4:02 PM
justincredible;1169127 wrote:Maybe the obvious jokes shouldn't go directly against the rules we just made a point to reiterate?
If it's an obvious joke then which of these did it violate?

These rules apply to ALL forums:
  1. No personal attacks or unwarranted name-calling. Just because someone has a different opinion doesn't mean they're an idiot.
  2. Do not continually harass other members (this includes moderators).
  3. Do not aggressively troll a thread with the sole purpose of derailing it.
  4. Do not reveal anyone's identity.
  5. No swearing in thread titles.
  6. No pornography or gore.


You penalized me without me breaking a rule. Saying LJ knows things is a true statement, if it were not true he would have an IQ of 0. I didn't say he knew everything and I didn't call him an expert of anything. As for the response to Mooney, he invited it by mentioning it within his post multiple times. It was a good post, but my response did not break any of your newly established rules.
May 13, 2012 4:02pm
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May 13, 2012 4:02 PM
Commander of Awesome;1169130 wrote:I think excessive whining should be an infractionable offense as well.
I would make a joke about this, but I would probably get an infraction.
May 13, 2012 4:02pm
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May 13, 2012 4:02 PM
Mooney44Cards;1169128 wrote:While we're at it, could we crack down on the dragging someone's choice of favorite teams into a conversation that has nothing to do with it? I've had multiple times where I've experienced "LOL this coming from a Mooney fan" or "A Notre Dame fan WOULD say that" has been lobbed as some sort of argument against me when its not even a discussion about sports. I realize I'm kind of asking for it with my username, but I've had this thing on this site from its inception, and on other sites since 2002, so its a bit late for that.
Sounds like something a ND fan would say.
May 13, 2012 4:02pm
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May 13, 2012 4:02 PM
Commander of Awesome;1169130 wrote:I think excessive whining should be an infractionable offense as well.
Well that was subtle.
May 13, 2012 4:02pm
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May 13, 2012 4:02 PM
lhslep134;1169122 wrote:This is a legit question as well. IF LJ posts with a substantive or implicative Mr. Know it All attitude are we allowed to post such or would that be violating the "LJ knows everything" prohibition?

I agree saying it for the sake of saying it is the trolling you're trying to avoid, but I mean saying someone is being a Mr. Know It All is not something that would be unique to LJ

I know what I know.
May 13, 2012 4:02pm
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May 13, 2012 4:03 PM
lhslep134;1169135 wrote:If it's an obvious joke then which of these did it violate?

These rules apply to ALL forums:
  1. No personal attacks or unwarranted name-calling. Just because someone has a different opinion doesn't mean they're an idiot.
  2. Do not continually harass other members (this includes moderators).
  3. Do not aggressively troll a thread with the sole purpose of derailing it.
  4. Do not reveal anyone's identity.
  5. No swearing in thread titles.
  6. No pornography or gore.


You penalized me without me breaking a rule
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You got a warning for doing EXACTLY what this thread is talking about.
May 13, 2012 4:03pm
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May 13, 2012 4:03 PM
Mooney44Cards;1169138 wrote:Well that was subtle.
Wasn't aimed at you mooney.
May 13, 2012 4:03pm