LJ;1075953 wrote:It is not correct, because if he doesn't plan on selling ever, the value that any curb appeal has is 0. Meaning it is worthless.
There's no way to know without seeing it. It could be horrendous looking. The reasoning behind this is because not all are appealing to everyone . Appeal is subjective...and the owner still wouldn't care either way and that's the point.Steel Valley Football;1076752 wrote:Does a house that is not currently listed for sale NOT have curb appeal? I'm very curious to see your answer on this, LJ. Explain your reasoning if you would, please.
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It can have appeal. That does not mean that it is worth anything. As for "showing well", well that one is impossible without listing hte house for sale.Steel Valley Football;1076752 wrote:Does a house that is not currently listed for sale NOT have curb appeal? I'm very curious to see your answer on this, LJ. Explain your reasoning if you would, please.
I'll get back w ya soon CA. I have to get up early.
You come back at your original asking price? That usually fires them up pretty well.ZWICK 4 PREZ;1076799 wrote:Well I rejected and countered, he rejected and countered with $500 more and I told him to fuck off.. figuratively.
No I went down 4 grand he went up $500. So piss on him.LJ;1076811 wrote:You come back at your original asking price? That usually fires them up pretty well.
Con_Alma;1076802 wrote:There's no way to know without seeing it. It could be horrendous looking. The reasoning behind this is because not all are appealing to everyone . Appeal is subjective...and the owner still wouldn't care either way and that's the point.
LJ;1076810 wrote:It can have appeal. That does not mean that it is worth anything.
Wouldn't both as it pertains to themselves?Steel Valley Football;1077426 wrote:I'm not following your logic.
Who determines the curb appeal of a particular house? The value or utility in that curb appeal, I mean. The owner of the house or the potential market participants?
That's an illogical statement. "Showing well" can be defined. *Generally speaking, without looking up a definition, it pertains to the interior, and means clean and organized without clutter. It is a characteristic of any house regardless of whether it's listed for sale or not.LJ;1076810 wrote: As for "showing well", well that one is impossible without listing hte house for sale.
Con_Alma;1077427 wrote:Wouldn't both as it pertains to themselves?
I understood his statement as it can't "show well" if it isn't shown.Steel Valley Football;1077429 wrote:That's an illogical statement. "Showing well" can be defined. *Generally speaking, without looking up a definition, it pertains to the interior, and means clean and organized without clutter. It is a characteristic of any house regardless of whether it's listed for sale or not.
By your logic, a clean and organized house that is listed for sale that is then taken off the market can become unclean and unorganized even if no changes occurred inside the house. The only change being that it was taken of the market.
Perhaps the owner has died. The characteristics of the interior still remain the same.
When both buyer and seller have the same desires doesn't that raise the appeal to that buyer.Steel Valley Football;1077434 wrote:No. The owner sets the level of curb appeal. The market sets the value of that curb appeal.
Furthermore, your house has curb appeal to a certain portion of the market. Buyers who are exactly like you, however small that segment may be.
Con_Alma;1077442 wrote:When both buyer and seller have the same desires doesn't that raise the appeal to that buyer.
When they have different desires doesn't that lower the appeal to that buyer?
It's subjective it would seem.
Con_Alma;1077437 wrote:I understood his statement as it can't "show well" if it isn't shown.
I didn't say the buyer set it I don't believe but rather that their belief or perception of what is and isn't appealing.Steel Valley Football;1077478 wrote:The buyer has done nothing to set the level of curb appeal the house has. That would be impossible to do as they are not the owner. So, they have only judged the curb appeal level the owner has set by their actions.
The owner sets the curb appeal. The buyer, or buyers (the market) judge that level.
Except your house already has a set level of curb appeal based on your actions or inactions. Just because no buyer has seen your house (i.e. valued the level of curb appeal your house has), doesn't mean your level of curb appeal ceases to exist. It's is there regardless and it is constant until your actions or inactions change it.Con_Alma;1077497 wrote:I didn't say the buyer set it I don't believe but rather that their belief or perception of what is and isn't appealing.
As the owner i have no interest in it even existing and wouldn't perpetuate it's presence to anyone but it just doesn't matter to me.
Con_Alma;1076917 wrote:Atta boy. Sell it for what it's worth to you. No less.
The lack of desire to recognize or have any curb appeal will impact that as you have described above. That has always been my premise. I don't care about it. Not being concerned with the appeal or lack thereof will as you described have to have an impact on it.Steel Valley Football;1077517 wrote:Except your house already has a set level of curb appeal based on your actions or inactions. Just because no buyer has seen your house (i.e. valued the level of curb appeal your house has), doesn't mean your level of curb appeal ceases to exist. It's is there regardless and it is constant until your actions or inactions change it.
Except, aside from only repeating yourself, your are failing to acknowledge that your house does have curb appeal to a certain segment of the market. The segment that wants to live secluded, hidden, and hermit-like...if that is what your house is like.Con_Alma;1077713 wrote:The lack of desire to recognize or have any curb appeal will impact that as you have described above. That has always been my premise. I don't care about it. Not being concerned with the appeal or lack thereof will as you described have to have an impact on it.
It simply doesn't play a factor in how or what I do at the home because it has not impact on me or my family living there.
IMO, that maybe confirms for you what FMV is. Because unless he was REALLY stretching on your price, to only come up $500 pretty much means he was trying to steal it or lowball you. He's not necessarily a flipper, but there are certainly buyers who will go around and put in a bunch of lowball offers until someone bites. Don't blame them, I'd do the sameZWICK 4 PREZ;1076799 wrote:Well I rejected and countered, he rejected and countered with $500 more and I told him to **** off.. figuratively.
How am I failing to understand that? I do understand it. The Lake is the only place you can see the house from. If you are at the dock looking at angle through the trees you can catch a glimpse of that house. What makes you think I don't understand that?Steel Valley Football;1077807 wrote:Except, aside from only repeating yourself, your are failing to acknowledge that your house does have curb appeal to a certain segment of the market. The segment that wants to live secluded, hidden, and hermit-like...if that is what your house is like.
Also, you are failing to understand that your house can have curb appeal from the lake and that your property setup from that standpoint will appeal to yet another segment of the market.
Round and round we go...
This.password;1077925 wrote:Curb appeal is only one persons opinion. Taking pride in your property is more important to people than curb appeal. You can plant all the trees and flowers you want around your house but if it is not well maintained on the exterior of the home, it is still a dump.
Con_Alma;1078023 wrote:How am I failing to understand that? I do understand it. The Lake is the only place you can see the house from. If you are at the dock looking at angle through the trees you can catch a glimpse of that house. What makes you think I don't understand that?
Do you not understand that it's the lack of concern or desire to truly have "curb Appeal" that initiated the comments? Do you not understand that there's nor reason or interest on my behalf to have "curb appeal"? That's the pooint and nothing you have offered negates that fact. Maybe you are not intending to negate it. That's O.K. but it's the only thing that truly matters. I don't care bout my home having "curb Appeal"
The repetitive nature of my posts is because I am not certain that the main point is prominent enough in the banter.
