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Jan 30, 2012 2:48 PM
Funny ass read right here.

What do you asshats want to hear? "Yeah we're pretty unhappy to be in contention every year since Matta has become coach."

Lol...lame debate
Jan 30, 2012 2:48pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:49 PM
Matta may be a step below Williams, Self, Coach K, etc., but he's head and shoulders above any coach in the B1G (not named Izzo)...and, IMO, he has to be considered among the top 10 D1 coaches in the country.
Jan 30, 2012 2:49pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:50 PM
FatHobbit;1070210 wrote:My mistake, you're right.



I agree we're not on the level of those three yet, but we're a lot closer than we've ever been before. I'm curious to see who etc would be.
Izzo,Calipari,Boheim, Calhoun
Jan 30, 2012 2:50pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:50 PM
vball10set;1070226 wrote:Matta may be a step below Williams, Self, Coach K, etc., but he's head and shoulders above any coach in the B1G...and, IMO, he has to be considered among the top 10 D1 coaches in the country.
Matta is not head and shoulders above Izzo. Hell, hes not even above Izzo
Jan 30, 2012 2:50pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:53 PM
Hb31187;1070231 wrote:Matta is not head and shoulders above Izzo. Hell, hes not even above Izzo


check my edit, Beilein boy :rolleyes:
Jan 30, 2012 2:53pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:54 PM
vball10set;1070232 wrote:check my edit, Beilein boy :rolleyes:
Check the time of my post, blind homer
Jan 30, 2012 2:54pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:56 PM
Hb31187;1070231 wrote:Matta is not head and shoulders above Izzo. Hell, hes not even above Izzo
In the same time frame Izzo is

2004/2005 - final four
2005/2006 - 1st round
2006/2007 - 2nd round
2007/2008 - sweet 16
2008/2009 - NCAA runner up
2009/2010 - final four

I agree that's better, but not a lot and he didn't have to clean up the mess that Matta walked into.
Jan 30, 2012 2:56pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:56 PM
Hb31187;1070238 wrote:Check the time of my post, blind homer
lol--actually I was editing as you were posting, but I did get it in before I saw yours ;)
Jan 30, 2012 2:56pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:56 PM
x's and o's and recruiting are not mutually exclusive...but detractors view it as such
Jan 30, 2012 2:56pm
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Jan 30, 2012 2:58 PM
Every team has had let downs int he tourney, even marquee programs. Duke was awful for years in the tourney, Syracuse has had early exits, Kansas, you name it basically. The tournament format doesn't reveal who the best team in the country is, it reveals the hottest team with the best/most favorable match ups.
Jan 30, 2012 2:58pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:01 PM
Hb31187;1070238 wrote:Check the time of my post, blind homer
It seems like you're seeking out someone to complain about a coach. Maybe you should start a thread about Beilein's terrible 2nd half offense yesterday?
Jan 30, 2012 3:01pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:03 PM
Automatik;1070257 wrote:It seems like you're seeking out someone to complain about a coach. Maybe you should start a thread about Beilein's terrible 2nd half offense yesterday?
Lol or im havning a discussion in the thread and havent bashed OSU at all
Jan 30, 2012 3:03pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:05 PM
vball10set;1070244 wrote:lol--actually I was editing as you were posting, but I did get it in before I saw yours ;)
Lol
Jan 30, 2012 3:05pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:05 PM
Hb31187;1070229 wrote:Izzo,Calipari,Boheim, Calhoun
Boeheim has one National Championship in 35 years of coaching. Cal has been to one unvacated Final Four. Calhoun was 13 years in before he won a NC. Izzo has one NC in 17 seasons. Matta has one Final Four appearance. I'll give you Calhoun, but Matta is right there with the other guys.
Jan 30, 2012 3:05pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:07 PM
se-alum;1070267 wrote:Boeheim has one National Championship in 35 years of coaching. Cal has been to one unvacated Final Four. Calhoun was 13 years in before he won a NC. Izzo has one NC in 17 seasons. Matta has one Final Four appearance. I'll give you Calhoun, but Matta is right there with the other guys.
So 1 final four puts him right there with Izzo and Boheim and Coach Cal(even if vacated, he still coached that team to where they got to, its not like they used performance enhancers)
Jan 30, 2012 3:07pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:13 PM
Hb31187;1070270 wrote:So 1 final four puts him right there with Izzo and Boheim and Coach Cal(even if vacated, he still coached that team to where they got to, its not like they used performance enhancers)
Yea, I think he is. Given that he hasn't been a head coach that long, and completely turned around a program that was way down. So having Derrick Rose as opposed to not having Derrick Rose had no difference. He used illegal players.
Jan 30, 2012 3:13pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:13 PM
Hb31187;1070270 wrote:So 1 final four puts him right there with Izzo and Boheim and Coach Cal(even if vacated, he still coached that team to where they got to, its not like they used performance enhancers)
LOL...so where does that put him?

Funny shit
Jan 30, 2012 3:13pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:14 PM
ytownfootball;1070282 wrote:LOL...so where does that put him?

Funny ****
Puts him easily behind 3 HOF coaches. How the hell does 1 final four put him in the same class as those guys?
Jan 30, 2012 3:14pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:15 PM
Ok, he's behind those guys.

And your point is? I'm still failing to see it.
Jan 30, 2012 3:15pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:16 PM
Hb31187;1070283 wrote:Puts him easily behind 3 HOF coaches. How the hell does 1 final four put him in the same class as those guys?
I can agree that Matta is behind anyone with a title. But you have to admit he's not far behind and that's some great company to be not far behind. He has a lot of time to catch them.
Jan 30, 2012 3:16pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:16 PM
Being more accomplished does not make one a better coach. Too many variables to judge coaching ability on wins alone.
Jan 30, 2012 3:16pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:18 PM
Prescott;1070290 wrote:Being more accomplished does not make one a better coach. Too many variables to judge coaching ability on wins alone.
Especially when one coach has been coaching for 1/3rd the time as some of the others.

But I do agree that you can't say one coach is on the same level as other coaches when they the other coaches have titles. You do have to win one to get into that conversation IMHO.
Jan 30, 2012 3:18pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:18 PM
Who does more with less better than Bo Ryan?
Jan 30, 2012 3:18pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:18 PM
Calhoun-3 national titles, 4 final fours
Izzo-1 national title 6 final fours
Boheim-3 final fours and a national title
Cal-3 final fours( yeah yeah i know, 2 vacated)


So maybe Matta is on par with Cal somewhat, but the other ones its not THAT close
Jan 30, 2012 3:18pm
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Jan 30, 2012 3:19 PM
FatHobbit;1070288 wrote:I can agree that Matta is behind anyone with a title. But you have to admit he's not far behind and that's some great company to be not far behind. He has a lot of time to catch them.
I agree hes not far behind, just dont see how someone could say hes not real far behind them lol
Jan 30, 2012 3:19pm