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jmog
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Feb 27, 2014 5:57pm
in other words, I am right (other than the outlier at Flyweight).Zoltan;1585397 wrote:[/B]Sort of interesting, knock out rates for UFC fights in 2013 from Fly to Heavy:
Fly- 50%
Bant -22%
Feather - 28%
Light - 25%
Welter -31%
Middle - 30%
LHW - 36%
Heavy - 68%
that flyweight outlier can be explained by my belief that most of those are TKOs and not KOs, and TKOs happen in classes when there is a not a lot of depth and the top is head and shoulders above the rest.
robj55
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Feb 27, 2014 11:01pm
Pettis is on his first deal with the UFC most likely, Nate has been there 7 years and has had 19 fights, huge difference there. I realize he is making way more than 15/15 but sponsorships don't belong in this conversation with guaranteed purse, that is entirely separate. Bonuses are also earned, I don't know how his contract is structured but 15/15 just looks bad, and he is clearly not happy with it. Like you said though he signed it, but perhaps his manager failed to get the right deal or explain it fully. Aldo gets PPV cut as well so that 120K is useless. A good comparison for Nate would be someone like Michael Bisping, both have had a ton of fights in the UFC and have been there for a long time. Bisping makes 275K to show.jmog;1585383 wrote:1. He signed the deal.
2. He is making much more than $15k per fight, those are only reported numbers not bonuses, not sponsorships, etc.
3. Anthony Pettis, the champion at 155, makes $27k to show, and $27k to win. So your point is proven wrong right there. The best in the world at 155 is listed as making $27k to show, no way in hell Diaz should make $150k to show. You have to realize for the most part anyone under Welterweight is not as "marketable", as in all the big money makers are WW through HW since the bar room fan likes to see KOs and not technique/submissions. Jose Aldo is an exception because he does get the big KOs and even he is only $120k/$120k, so still less than what you think Diaz should make. Aldo is probably the best P4P fighter on the planet and you want Diaz making more than him.
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jmog
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Feb 28, 2014 7:31am
Bisping is also a MW ex LHW, so you can't compare. You have to compare to other lighter fighters which is what I did.
You our want to ignore sponsorships but include Aldo's PPV pay? Seriously?
You our want to ignore sponsorships but include Aldo's PPV pay? Seriously?
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jmog
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Feb 28, 2014 7:33am
Belfort out against Weidmann due to the TRT ban, Machida in.
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atun
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Feb 28, 2014 8:50am
thx for the update...
Fab1b
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Feb 28, 2014 10:13am
Machida replaces Belfort for title fight as Belfort won't apply for Nevada license
http://mmajunkie.com/2014/02/vitor-belfort-out-of-ufc-173-title-fight-chris-weidman-now-meets-lyoto-machida/
http://mmajunkie.com/2014/02/vitor-belfort-out-of-ufc-173-title-fight-chris-weidman-now-meets-lyoto-machida/
Raw Dawgin' it
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Feb 28, 2014 11:14am
daaaaamn. Hopefully Jacare gets winner.Fab1b;1585586 wrote:Machida replaces Belfort for title fight as Belfort won't apply for Nevada license
http://mmajunkie.com/2014/02/vitor-belfort-out-of-ufc-173-title-fight-chris-weidman-now-meets-lyoto-machida/
robj55
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Feb 28, 2014 5:18pm
What I'm saying is that sponsorships aren't negotiated in a UFC contract, while PPV points are.jmog;1585517 wrote:Bisping is also a MW ex LHW, so you can't compare. You have to compare to other lighter fighters which is what I did.
You our want to ignore sponsorships but include Aldo's PPV pay? Seriously?
robj55
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Feb 28, 2014 5:19pm
Something fishy about this Vitor situation, did he fail a drug test and they are covering it up because no one will find out due to him not applying for a license? Weidman/Machida is a great match up though, Lyoto presents a ton of problems for Weidman.
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sportchampps
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Feb 28, 2014 5:54pm
UFC might being changing how sponsorships are done from what I hear. They will basically give everyone a uniform and tell them where and what is allowed on that uniform. I'm hearing they will be taking away a lot of the space currently used for sponsors. Also before a fighter can have a sponsor the sponsor must pay the UFC before agreeing to an amount with a fighter. That means the UFC gets the lions share and the fighters get the remaining scraps.
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sportchampps
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Feb 28, 2014 5:56pm
Hearing the UFC didn't think it was a safe enough time for Belfort to get off TRT before his fight. The fighters can't just stop taking it they must reduce doses gradually.
robj55
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Feb 28, 2014 7:08pm
So he needed it medically before because of his condition, but now doesn't? LOL This thing is really suspicioussportchampps;1585821 wrote:Hearing the UFC didn't think it was a safe enough time for Belfort to get off TRT before his fight. The fighters can't just stop taking it they must reduce doses gradually.
robj55
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Feb 28, 2014 7:09pm
Yeah I heard that and it's ridiculous, unless the UFC is going to pay them sponsorship money to wear those uniforms.sportchampps;1585820 wrote:UFC might being changing how sponsorships are done from what I hear. They will basically give everyone a uniform and tell them where and what is allowed on that uniform. I'm hearing they will be taking away a lot of the space currently used for sponsors. Also before a fighter can have a sponsor the sponsor must pay the UFC before agreeing to an amount with a fighter. That means the UFC gets the lions share and the fighters get the remaining scraps.
bigdaddy2003
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Feb 28, 2014 8:04pm
I can't wait to watch Machida beat Weidman.
Enforcer
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Feb 28, 2014 8:14pm
bigdaddy2003;1585844 wrote:I can't wait to watch Machida beat Weidman.
I hope Weidman brakes His face!!!
Enforcer
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Feb 28, 2014 8:52pm
​don't forget new season of Bellator starts tonight!!
robj55
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Feb 28, 2014 10:31pm
King Mo has just never looked the same since that staph infection.
bigdaddy2003
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Feb 28, 2014 10:34pm
King Mo just got lucky.
Enforcer
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Feb 28, 2014 10:44pm
Can't wait for Chandelar vs Alverez 3, the last 2 fight have been wars, although I thought Chandelar had won both
robj55
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Feb 28, 2014 10:49pm
Love that fight but worth buying on PPV though?Enforcer;1585881 wrote:Can't wait for Chandelar vs Alverez 3, the last 2 fight have been wars, although I thought Chandelar had won both
robj55
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Feb 28, 2014 11:04pm
Rampage ground and pound KO, then he and King Mo cut a little promo in the cage lol
Enforcer
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Feb 28, 2014 11:04pm
Just depends on who else is fighting??
Rampage puts some dude to sleep then Him and King Mo get into it after the fight in the cage, if they fight like they did tonight , Rampage will murder Him
Rampage puts some dude to sleep then Him and King Mo get into it after the fight in the cage, if they fight like they did tonight , Rampage will murder Him
Fab1b
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Mar 1, 2014 9:47am
I agree! Rampage should win their fight.robj55;1585878 wrote:King Mo has just never looked the same since that staph infection.
robj55
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Mar 1, 2014 4:45pm
Did anyone see the Dong Hyun Kim KO from earlier this morning in China? WOW
Fab1b
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Mar 1, 2014 4:58pm
No but have read about it gonna look it up. I forgot there was a card in China this morning.robj55;1586015 wrote:Did anyone see the Dong Hyun Kim KO from earlier this morning in China? WOW
Found a video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oh_kfhTw80