
robj55
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Mar 13, 2014 12:13pm
I like Lawler by KORaw Dawgin' it;1589737 wrote:Picks for the 171
Johny Hendricks vs. Robbie Lawler
Carlos Condit vs. Tyron Woodley
Myles Jury vs. Diego Sanchez
Hector Lombard vs. Jake Shields
Nikita Krylov vs. Ovince St. Preux - no fucking clue who these guys are.
For some reason i think those 4 fights all go to a decision.
Woodley by decision because Condit can't stop a takedown to save his life
Diego by decision likely in a war again lol
Have a hard time seeing how Shields can beat Lombard but he is a winner and has proved me wrong before, Lombard by decision.
OSP by KO

Raw Dawgin' it
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Mar 13, 2014 2:42pm
I think Condit fight will be like the Diaz fight. I know Woodley is super fast, but I think it'll look like the Marquardt fight.robj55;1589769 wrote:I like Lawler by KO
Woodley by decision because Condit can't stop a takedown to save his life
Diego by decision likely in a war again lol
Have a hard time seeing how Shields can beat Lombard but he is a winner and has proved me wrong before, Lombard by decision.
OSP by KO

robj55
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Mar 13, 2014 2:46pm
Woodley is a big, strong, fast and athletic wrestler. Condit has given up 25 takedowns in his last 3 fights and can't stop a takedown at all really. He has an active guard but unless he submits Woodley off his back he could lose a boring decision especially over 3 rounds. If anyone watched Woodley in Strikeforce he can go full lay and pray mode, I doubt he stands for Condit for long.Raw Dawgin' it;1589883 wrote:I think Condit fight will be like the Diaz fight. I know Woodley is super fast, but I think it'll look like the Marquardt fight.

Raw Dawgin' it
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Mar 13, 2014 3:03pm
He's fast man - he may try to knock him out early before Condit can adjust. I honestly just think there is so much on the line for all the welterweights that they'll probably end in decisions.robj55;1589885 wrote:Woodley is a big, strong, fast and athletic wrestler. Condit has given up 25 takedowns in his last 3 fights and can't stop a takedown at all really. He has an active guard but unless he submits Woodley off his back he could lose a boring decision especially over 3 rounds. If anyone watched Woodley in Strikeforce he can go full lay and pray mode, I doubt he stands for Condit for long.

robj55
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Mar 13, 2014 3:06pm
Yeah I think Condit gets a title shot with a win, not sure about the other WW's on the card. What's funny is that Shields has beaten Condit, Lawler and Woodley, 3 of the top 4 on the card.Raw Dawgin' it;1589900 wrote:He's fast man - he may try to knock him out early before Condit can adjust. I honestly just think there is so much on the line for all the welterweights that they'll probably end in decisions.

Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Mar 13, 2014 3:12pm
yeah but he's really boring.robj55;1589904 wrote:Yeah I think Condit gets a title shot with a win, not sure about the other WW's on the card. What's funny is that Shields has beaten Condit, Lawler and Woodley, 3 of the top 4 on the card.
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Zoltan
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Mar 13, 2014 3:23pm
I actually sort of like watching Shields fight. Seeing a guy with very little natural athletic ability or coordination try to handle the toughest guys on earth is sort of fascinating.Raw Dawgin' it;1589911 wrote:yeah but he's really boring.
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sportchampps
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Mar 13, 2014 5:35pm
Hendricks
Condit
Sanchez
Shields
st Preux
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Sanchez
Shields
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sportchampps
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Mar 13, 2014 5:38pm
I think shields is actually pretty naturally athletic

Raw Dawgin' it
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Mar 14, 2014 6:49am
still boring.sportchampps;1590049 wrote:I think shields is actually pretty naturally athletic
Lombard should take a page out of Jake Ellenberger and blitz him.
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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Mar 14, 2014 8:42am
Agree. I'm not a fan in the sense where I want him to win, so I don't care if Lombard takes him out. I just don't mind watching his fights.Raw Dawgin' it;1590246 wrote:still boring.
Lombard should take a page out of Jake Ellenberger and blitz him.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Mar 14, 2014 9:34am
He is boring but he's world class. I always thought he was the best fighter in Strikeforce. (I was wrong Gilbert was). I don't mind watching him because he is so good at what he does. It's kinda like a few friends of mine who can't watch a really good defensive NFL game. They think it's boring when it 3-0 in the forth quarter as to where I'm very entertained.

Raw Dawgin' it
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Mar 14, 2014 10:31am
He just neutralizes offense and provides none of his own. He's totally overrated imo. He was 5 seconds away from being choked out by Mayhem Miller.sportchampps;1590277 wrote:He is boring but he's world class. I always thought he was the best fighter in Strikeforce. (I was wrong Gilbert was). I don't mind watching him because he is so good at what he does. It's kinda like a few friends of mine who can't watch a really good defensive NFL game. They think it's boring when it 3-0 in the forth quarter as to where I'm very entertained.

robj55
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Mar 14, 2014 12:12pm
He has offense, he is a volume striker he just has zero power. He is also a sensational grappler who won the majority of the grappling exchanges against Damien Maia of all people. Not sure how you can say he's overrated, look at the list of guys he's beaten. He's lost two fights in ten years lol since 2004. He's not entertaining but he's a winner. Mayhem was actually pretty damn good a few years ago.Raw Dawgin' it;1590300 wrote:He just neutralizes offense and provides none of his own. He's totally overrated imo. He was 5 seconds away from being choked out by Mayhem Miller.

Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Mar 14, 2014 12:58pm
Probably skews my opinion of him. Just not a fan, I know he's great on the ground, but when the only time you were part of a finish in the UFC is when you got knocked out, i'm just not interested.robj55;1590358 wrote:He has offense, he is a volume striker he just has zero power. He is also a sensational grappler who won the majority of the grappling exchanges against Damien Maia of all people. Not sure how you can say he's overrated, look at the list of guys he's beaten. He's lost two fights in ten years lol since 2004. He's not entertaining but he's a winner. Mayhem was actually pretty damn good a few years ago.
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sportchampps
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Mar 14, 2014 3:17pm
I found GSP more boring then Shields

robj55
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Mar 14, 2014 3:20pm
Yeah the last person he finished was Lawler in 2009 with a guillotine. Submissions are down across the board though as guys are becoming more and more savvy with their defense.Raw Dawgin' it;1590378 wrote:Probably skews my opinion of him. Just not a fan, I know he's great on the ground, but when the only time you were part of a finish in the UFC is when you got knocked out, i'm just not interested.
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Zoltan
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Mar 14, 2014 3:38pm
I don't have stats to back it up but I agree. Also, most submissions usually start with someone getting hurt with a strike first.robj55;1590478 wrote:Yeah the last person he finished was Lawler in 2009 with a guillotine. Submissions are down across the board though as guys are becoming more and more savvy with their defense.

Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Mar 14, 2014 3:38pm
the problem there was until Condit and Hendricks, no one was on his level to give him a challenge.sportchampps;1590477 wrote:I found GSP more boring then Shields

robj55
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Mar 14, 2014 6:28pm
Hendricks looked awful at the weigh ins, shaking uncontrollably. Sure sign of dehydration and he still has to lose 1.5 lbs, not good at all.

Enforcer
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Mar 15, 2014 12:08am
Anyone catch the Bellator main event tonight Pat Curran defeated Daniel Straus via rear naked choke in rd. 5 with 14 seconds left on the clock in a fight Straus was way ahead on the scorecards
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sportchampps
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Mar 15, 2014 12:34am
It was a good finish but I thought the rounds were pretty close. The punch Strauss landed in the second though was brutal .

robj55
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Mar 15, 2014 1:53am
Yeah that was a hailmary finish, scorecards revealed that Curran probably would have won a split decision.

End of Line
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Mar 15, 2014 7:44am
Lawler
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Jury
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OSP
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Jury
Lombard
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sportchampps
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Mar 15, 2014 6:25pm
Hendricks by ko
condit will finish Woodley
sanchez win in the fight of the night
shields wins by decision over hector 30-27 on all 3 cards
st Preux by ko
condit will finish Woodley
sanchez win in the fight of the night
shields wins by decision over hector 30-27 on all 3 cards
st Preux by ko