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Mar 21, 2014 4:40pm
I Wear Pants;1594095 wrote:Condit probably has the best chin in the division. Ate everything Hendricks could hit him with as well. I could watch him fight every card.
Him and Nick, Nick stood and took bombs from Daley who is one of the hardest punchers in the sport. I'm definitely a Condit fan, he has that warrior spirit.
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Mar 23, 2014 11:39am
robj55;1594548 wrote:Him and Nick, Nick stood and took bombs from Daley who is one of the hardest punchers in the sport. I'm definitely a Condit fan, he has that warrior spirit.

Yeah Nick can take a punch as well.
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Mar 23, 2014 1:19pm
Rematch of what is probably the best fight I've ever seen tonight between Hendo and Shogun, probably going to be another war. Main card starts at 7 on Fox Sports 1, prelims are at 5 on the same channel. I think Shogun finishes Dan this time as much as I don't wanna see Hendo lose 4 in a row, this could be his last fight.
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Mar 23, 2014 4:34pm
good lord what a flying knee KO to open the prelims up
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Mar 23, 2014 9:48pm
Not a fan of those shots to the back of the head by Hendo.
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Mar 23, 2014 9:48pm
WOW, UNREAL, getting his ass beat and then that, this sport is crazy man!!!
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Mar 23, 2014 10:22pm
I Wear Pants;1595837 wrote:Not a fan of those shots to the back of the head by Hendo.
I counted 5 shots to the back of the skull, have too thing Shogun would have recovered if not for those.
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Mar 23, 2014 10:40pm
robj55;1595862 wrote:I counted 5 shots to the back of the skull, have too thing Shogun would have recovered if not for those.
He was grabbing the leg and defending like you're supposed to when rocked until after the third or so illegal blow. Disappointing. Maybe it would have still ended but it sucks that we don't get to find out.
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Mar 23, 2014 11:28pm
Still not sure if Shogun's collapse after it was stopped was frustration or disorientation. He certainly knew his nose was F'ed up.
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Mar 23, 2014 11:29pm
I Wear Pants;1595872 wrote:He was grabbing the leg and defending like you're supposed to when rocked until after the third or so illegal blow. Disappointing. Maybe it would have still ended but it sucks that we don't get to find out.
Not one word was said about it either, just blows my mind. Anyone can get KO'd from shots to the back of the head, extremely dangerous.
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Mar 23, 2014 11:30pm
Zoltan;1595886 wrote:Still not sure if Shogun's collapse after it was stopped was frustration or disorientation. He certainly knew his nose was F'ed up.
I don't think he was ever unconscious, he certainly was hurt though and his nose was destroyed.
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Mar 24, 2014 12:30am
Great card tonight! Hendo is a beast! Came back from the dead but I do agree with the shots to the back of the head kinda killing it.
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Mar 24, 2014 1:12am
BTW the Brazilian Ref is the worst I have ever seen.
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Mar 24, 2014 2:26am
Fab1b;1595904 wrote:Great card tonight! Hendo is a beast! Came back from the dead but I do agree with the shots to the back of the head kinda killing it.
Ditto Fab1b:)! Tough sport and a tough way to make a living... But there are many who do. Ref should have stepped in on the blows to the back of the head. I know its kinda legal. Back when UFC first started, the rules I remember were no biting or eye-gouging (sp). And matches rarely came close to the 5 minute mark. Royce was a little cocky then but he could back it up (never ever saw him take a cheap shot, but dislocated one of his former students arm on UFC)! I have no doubt he still can be competitive!

Awesome sport!!!
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Mar 24, 2014 9:57am
Lots of weird situations for the ref's last night as well.

Bad stoppage in the Siler fight I thought. He was hurt but throwing an up kick and defending himself.

Villante looked out on his feet, but I couldn't tell if he was just exhausted.

Hendo looked like he was out for a brief second in the first round, then the finish with shots to the back of head, etc. Not an easy job.
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Mar 24, 2014 10:16am
Happy for dolloway. He may be able to make a late push, seems like I've been waiting on him for years.
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Mar 24, 2014 11:32am
gerb131;1595957 wrote:Happy for dolloway. He may be able to make a late push, seems like I've been waiting on him for years.
Him and Matt Brown have really come on and been the best two best guys from that season of TUF. That was probably the only season I watched every episode of.
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Mar 24, 2014 3:34pm
gerb131;1595957 wrote:Happy for dolloway. He may be able to make a late push, seems like I've been waiting on him for years.
His striking has improved a ton over the past few years, he got robbed in his previous fight against Tim Boetsch. Should be on a 4 fight win streak.
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Mar 24, 2014 9:31pm
All Hendo has is the right hand and that's all he apparently needs. Was a great fight. He doesn't have much left in him, though. He got lucky.
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Mar 24, 2014 10:02pm
Pick6;1596165 wrote:All Hendo has is the right hand and that's all he apparently needs. Was a great fight. He doesn't have much left in him, though. He got lucky.
Yeah he looked slow and awful up until that moment, he was getting his ass kicked bad.
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Mar 25, 2014 8:24am
robj55;1595862 wrote:I counted 5 shots to the back of the skull, have too thing Shogun would have recovered if not for those.
I Wear Pants;1595872 wrote:He was grabbing the leg and defending like you're supposed to when rocked until after the third or so illegal blow. Disappointing. Maybe it would have still ended but it sucks that we don't get to find out.
lol wut? You really think those put him out? please. He wasn't intelligently doing shit, he was turtled, and you have no clue how tight he was grabbing his leg and then to collapse after like that? No way those were from those head shots and not the bomb he broke his face with.
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Mar 25, 2014 11:04am
Raw Dawgin' it;1596220 wrote:lol wut? You really think those put him out? please. He wasn't intelligently doing shit, he was turtled, and you have no clue how tight he was grabbing his leg and then to collapse after like that? No way those were from those head shots and not the bomb he broke his face with.
Yes, watch the replay, he was not out from that right hand although it broke his nose. He rolled backwards and grabbed a single leg, can't do that if you're unconscious can you?
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Mar 25, 2014 11:16am
robj55;1596268 wrote:Yes, watch the replay, he was not out from that right hand although it broke his nose. He rolled backwards and grabbed a single leg, can't do that if you're unconscious can you?
I think he was still technically conscious, but was probably in grab anything mode. He could have ended up grappling with the ref as we have seen many times. Tough fight for Shogun. 6-7 now in the UFC, and I think him and Hendo should both retire. They are legends who will never win a belt again, and both been through too much trauma.
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Mar 25, 2014 11:19am
robj55;1596268 wrote:Yes, watch the replay, he was not out from that right hand although it broke his nose. He rolled backwards and grabbed a single leg, can't do that if you're unconscious can you?
He rolled over from being punched not because he went "oh man, he got me, better pull guard."

I've seen lots of fights where fights wrestle or grab limbs when they're clearly out. Case and point, Jon Fitch. It's muscle memory for these guys. Did you see him stumble when he tried to get up? I doubt he knew he got a couple back of the head shots. Some were side ones and he also wrapped one around underneath. To say it was stopped early is crazy, his nose was pointing the wrong way.
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Mar 25, 2014 11:25am
Raw Dawgin' it;1596271 wrote:He rolled over from being punched not because he went "oh man, he got me, better pull guard."

I've seen lots of fights where fights wrestle or grab limbs when they're clearly out. Case and point, Jon Fitch. It's muscle memory for these guys. Did you see him stumble when he tried to get up? I doubt he knew he got a couple back of the head shots. Some were side ones and he also wrapped one around underneath. To say it was stopped early is crazy, his nose was pointing the wrong way.
Who ever said it was stopped early? I said he was hit with 5 illegal shots to the back of the skull which is true.