
End of Line
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Sep 1, 2011 10:23am
Right now, yes. You should see the amount of muscle mass he has lost.sportchampps;878984 wrote:could angle pass a drug test

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Sep 1, 2011 11:45am
Yeah, I was watching TNA and he looked so little I thought he was sick.The_Crosby_Show;879155 wrote:Right now, yes. You should see the amount of muscle mass he has lost.

Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Sep 1, 2011 5:40pm
New pound for pound rankings
Thoughts?
I personally would put Jones 3 ahead of Aldo and move Edgar down to maybe 7.
http://mmajunkie.com/news/25049/anderson-silva-voted-unanimous-no-1-in-yahoo-sports-pound-for-pound-rankings.mmaThe full top 10 (with point totals) include:Others receiving votes: Jake Shields (19), Rashad Evans (11), Nick Diaz (5), B.J. Penn (5), Dan Henderson (4), Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (3), Junior Dos Santos (2), Lyoto Machida (2)
- Anderson Silva 200 (20 first-place votes)
- Georges St. Pierre 180
- Jose Aldo 150
- Jon Jones 145
- Frankie Edgar 114
- Dominick Cruz 105
- Cain Velasquez 71
- Jon Fitch 34
- Gilbert Melendez 32
- Gray Maynard 32
Thoughts?
I personally would put Jones 3 ahead of Aldo and move Edgar down to maybe 7.

robj55
Posts: 9,511
Sep 1, 2011 6:04pm
Fitch, Maynard don't belong on the list and Frankie is way too high imo, there are better fighters than those guys in MMA imo.Fab1b;879674 wrote:New pound for pound rankings
http://mmajunkie.com/news/25049/anderson-silva-voted-unanimous-no-1-in-yahoo-sports-pound-for-pound-rankings.mma
Thoughts?
I personally would put Jones 3 ahead of Aldo and move Edgar down to maybe 7.

robj55
Posts: 9,511
Sep 1, 2011 6:13pm
In no order these are the guys who I think are the ten best MMA fighters based on their skill sets if size were equal:
Anderson Silva
GSP
Jose Aldo
Cain Velasquez
Jon Jones
Junior Dos Santos
Lyoto Machida
Shogun Rua
Dominick Cruz
BJ Penn
Next tier would be guys like Jake Shields, Dan Henderson, Frankie Edgar, Nick Diaz, Gilbert Melendez, Fitch, Rashad, guys like that. Hard to narrow it down to only 10 though.
Anderson Silva
GSP
Jose Aldo
Cain Velasquez
Jon Jones
Junior Dos Santos
Lyoto Machida
Shogun Rua
Dominick Cruz
BJ Penn
Next tier would be guys like Jake Shields, Dan Henderson, Frankie Edgar, Nick Diaz, Gilbert Melendez, Fitch, Rashad, guys like that. Hard to narrow it down to only 10 though.

End of Line
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Sep 1, 2011 6:22pm
Dana White tweeted that there is to be a big announcement tomorrow @ 10am. Also, he said the FOX main card is set.

End of Line
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Sep 1, 2011 6:24pm
My top 10 (right now)
1. Anderson Silva
2. GSP
3. Jose Aldo
4. Jon Jones
5. Frankie Edgar
6. Dominick Cruz
7. Cain Velasquez
8. Jon Fitch
9. Gilbert Melendez
10. Rashad Evans
1. Anderson Silva
2. GSP
3. Jose Aldo
4. Jon Jones
5. Frankie Edgar
6. Dominick Cruz
7. Cain Velasquez
8. Jon Fitch
9. Gilbert Melendez
10. Rashad Evans

robj55
Posts: 9,511
Sep 1, 2011 6:34pm
Can't wait to hear what it is.The_Crosby_Show;879699 wrote:Dana White tweeted that there is to be a big announcement tomorrow @ 10am. Also, he said the FOX main card is set.

Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Sep 1, 2011 6:56pm
hmmm wonder what this will be. Fox card probably will be B Henderson/Guida but not sure of the other fight.The_Crosby_Show;879699 wrote:Dana White tweeted that there is to be a big announcement tomorrow @ 10am. Also, he said the FOX main card is set.

End of Line
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Sep 1, 2011 9:49pm
There is a rumor going around saying Brock might have to retire. 
Here's the thing when it comes to this. Brock lives in isolation where few people can get a hold of him. So when it comes to news about Brock, the only two things I believe when it comes to news about him is from Dana White and his website Deathclutch.com.
Here's the thing when it comes to this. Brock lives in isolation where few people can get a hold of him. So when it comes to news about Brock, the only two things I believe when it comes to news about him is from Dana White and his website Deathclutch.com.

Fab1b
Posts: 12,949
Sep 1, 2011 10:07pm
I hope not Crosby

robj55
Posts: 9,511
Sep 1, 2011 10:24pm
His doctors reportedly advised him to retire but that doesn't mean he will.The_Crosby_Show;879846 wrote:There is a rumor going around saying Brock might have to retire.
Here's the thing when it comes to this. Brock lives in isolation where few people can get a hold of him. So when it comes to news about Brock, the only two things I believe when it comes to news about him is from Dana White and his website Deathclutch.com.

End of Line
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Sep 1, 2011 10:49pm
Minotauro came out and said that the UFC wants him to fight again in December. He expects to fight either Mir or LESNAR.

bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Sep 2, 2011 12:16am
I sure hope Brock doesn't have to retire.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Sep 2, 2011 1:59am
i think it will be silva vs sonnen or ufc heading back to brazil outside venue or fox headlines
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Zoltan
Posts: 1,003
Sep 2, 2011 8:21am
I am guessing Hendo vs Shogun for the FOX card.

End of Line
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Sep 2, 2011 1:08pm
JDS vs Velasquez on the FOX card!

robj55
Posts: 9,511
Sep 2, 2011 1:11pm
Wow, everyone loves the heavyweights, any word on the co-main?The_Crosby_Show;880452 wrote:JDS vs Velasquez on the FOX card!
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Sep 2, 2011 1:17pm
there will only be one fight

End of Line
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Sep 2, 2011 1:17pm
There's no co-main. That's the only fight.
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Sep 2, 2011 1:17pm
their gonna educate new fans on the sport they just better hope the fight lasts more then two minutes
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sportchampps
Posts: 7,361
Sep 2, 2011 1:19pm
with this fight being a possible 25 minutes they cant really put another fight on a 1 hour show

End of Line
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Sep 2, 2011 1:23pm
I have a feeling this fight will not go past the 3rd.

Leonardo
Posts: 4,986
Sep 2, 2011 1:30pm
There will be a full card for the fans in attendance but Velasquez-JDS will be the only fight guaranteed to be shown. I really hope for the UFC's sake that it's a nice, long, competitive fight.
Dana White is almost going all-in with this one. It's very ballsy!
Dana White is almost going all-in with this one. It's very ballsy!

Leonardo
Posts: 4,986
Sep 2, 2011 1:31pm
Upcoming cards with big fights listed:
Strikeforce: Barnett vs. Kharitonov - September 10th on Showtime from Cincinnati, Ohio
Josh Barnett vs. Sergei Kharitonov in Strikeforce Grand Prix Semifinal
Antonio Silva vs. Daniel Cormier in Strikeforce Grand Prix Semifinal
Jacare Souza (c) vs. Luke Rockhold for Middleweight Title
Muhammad Lawal vs. Roger Gracie
UFC Fight Night: Shields vs. Ellenberger - September 17th on Spike TV from New Orleans, Louisiana
Jake Shields vs. Jake Ellenberger
Dong Yi Yang vs. Court McGee
Alan Belcher vs. Jason MacDonald
UFC 135 - September 24th on PPV from Denver, Colorado
Jon Jones (c) vs. Rampage Jackson for Light Heavyweight Title
Matt Hughes vs. Josh Koscheck
Takanori Gomi vs. Nate Diaz
Ben Rothwell vs. Mark Hunt
UFC on Versus 6 - October 1st on Versus from Washington, D.C.
Dominick Cruz (c) vs. Demetrious Johnson for Bantamweight Title
Pat Barry vs. Stefan Struve
Charlie Brennaman vs. Anthony Johnson
Matt Wiman vs. Mac Danzig II
UFC 136 - October 8th on PPV from Houston, Texas
Frank Edgar (c) vs. Gray Maynard III for Lightweight Title
Jose Aldo (c) vs. Kenny Florian for Featherweight Title
Brian Stann vs. Chael Sonnen
Melvin Guillard vs. Joe Lauzon
Demian Maia vs. Jorge Santiago
UFC 137 - October 29th on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Georges St-Pierre (c) vs. Nick Diaz for UFC Welterweight Title
B.J. Penn vs. Carlos Condit
Cheick Kongo vs. Matt Mitrione
Mirko Cro Cop vs. Roy Nelson
Dennis Siver vs. Donald Cerrone
UFC 138 - November 5th on PPV/Spike TV from Birmingham, England
Chris Leben vs. Mark Munoz
Thiago Alves vs. Papy Abedi
John Hathaway vs. Matt Brown
UFC on FOX 1 - November 12th on Fox TV from Anaheim, California
Cain Velasquez (c) vs. Junior dos Santos for Heavyweight Title
Ben Henderson vs. Clay Guida
UFC 139 - November 19th on PPV from San Jose, California
Urijah Faber vs. Brian Bowles
Gleison Tibau vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Ryan Bader vs. Jason Brilz
Stephan Bonnar vs. Kyle Kingsbury
Martin Kampmann vs. Rick Story
The Ultimate Fighter 14 Finale - December 3rd on Spike TV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Jason Miller vs. Michael Bisping
Finalist #1 vs. Finalist #2
UFC 140 - December 10th on PPV from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
TBA
Strikeforce 37 - December 17th on Showtime from TBA
Gilbert Melendez (c) vs. Jorge Masvidal for Lightweight Title
Cristiane Santos (c) vs. TBA for Women's Featherweight Title
Keith Jardine vs. TBA
UFC 141 - Friday, December 30th on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Brock Lesnar vs. Alistair Overeem (to determine number one contender)
Strikeforce: Barnett vs. Kharitonov - September 10th on Showtime from Cincinnati, Ohio
Josh Barnett vs. Sergei Kharitonov in Strikeforce Grand Prix Semifinal
Antonio Silva vs. Daniel Cormier in Strikeforce Grand Prix Semifinal
Jacare Souza (c) vs. Luke Rockhold for Middleweight Title
Muhammad Lawal vs. Roger Gracie
UFC Fight Night: Shields vs. Ellenberger - September 17th on Spike TV from New Orleans, Louisiana
Jake Shields vs. Jake Ellenberger
Dong Yi Yang vs. Court McGee
Alan Belcher vs. Jason MacDonald
UFC 135 - September 24th on PPV from Denver, Colorado
Jon Jones (c) vs. Rampage Jackson for Light Heavyweight Title
Matt Hughes vs. Josh Koscheck
Takanori Gomi vs. Nate Diaz
Ben Rothwell vs. Mark Hunt
UFC on Versus 6 - October 1st on Versus from Washington, D.C.
Dominick Cruz (c) vs. Demetrious Johnson for Bantamweight Title
Pat Barry vs. Stefan Struve
Charlie Brennaman vs. Anthony Johnson
Matt Wiman vs. Mac Danzig II
UFC 136 - October 8th on PPV from Houston, Texas
Frank Edgar (c) vs. Gray Maynard III for Lightweight Title
Jose Aldo (c) vs. Kenny Florian for Featherweight Title
Brian Stann vs. Chael Sonnen
Melvin Guillard vs. Joe Lauzon
Demian Maia vs. Jorge Santiago
UFC 137 - October 29th on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Georges St-Pierre (c) vs. Nick Diaz for UFC Welterweight Title
B.J. Penn vs. Carlos Condit
Cheick Kongo vs. Matt Mitrione
Mirko Cro Cop vs. Roy Nelson
Dennis Siver vs. Donald Cerrone
UFC 138 - November 5th on PPV/Spike TV from Birmingham, England
Chris Leben vs. Mark Munoz
Thiago Alves vs. Papy Abedi
John Hathaway vs. Matt Brown
UFC on FOX 1 - November 12th on Fox TV from Anaheim, California
Cain Velasquez (c) vs. Junior dos Santos for Heavyweight Title
Ben Henderson vs. Clay Guida
UFC 139 - November 19th on PPV from San Jose, California
Urijah Faber vs. Brian Bowles
Gleison Tibau vs. Rafael dos Anjos
Ryan Bader vs. Jason Brilz
Stephan Bonnar vs. Kyle Kingsbury
Martin Kampmann vs. Rick Story
The Ultimate Fighter 14 Finale - December 3rd on Spike TV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Jason Miller vs. Michael Bisping
Finalist #1 vs. Finalist #2
UFC 140 - December 10th on PPV from Toronto, Ontario, Canada
TBA
Strikeforce 37 - December 17th on Showtime from TBA
Gilbert Melendez (c) vs. Jorge Masvidal for Lightweight Title
Cristiane Santos (c) vs. TBA for Women's Featherweight Title
Keith Jardine vs. TBA
UFC 141 - Friday, December 30th on PPV from Las Vegas, Nevada
Brock Lesnar vs. Alistair Overeem (to determine number one contender)