justincredible;1039729 wrote:But it's not the fault/problem of the company. Like I said, eating junk food is fine as long as it's done in moderation. It is up to the parent to limit how much their kid is eating.

thavoice;1039740 wrote:I will say this, i have yo yo'd with my weight over the years. Not something I am proud of.

Mentioned before in years past when people on message boards would talk how they cannot afford to eat healthy.

When I am in good weight loss mode, eating healthy and such, i really start to bank the money. When you start to eat healthy you eat less. Common sense.

FF does seem cheap and such, but if you are smart and go to the market, buy healthier foods and actually eat them in lieu of eating out (uh huh, I said eating out) then you will be far ahead.

What happens is people go to the market, spend money on healthy stuff, let it sit and rot while they still eat on the go, or buy too much and it rots. All it takes is a little planning to really eat healthier, and eat cheaper.

Scarlet_Buckeye;1039725 wrote:I think businesses have a corporate social responsibility to look out for the well-being of society.

thavoice;1039740 wrote:I will say this, i have yo yo'd with my weight over the years. Not something I am proud of.

Mentioned before in years past when people on message boards would talk how they cannot afford to eat healthy.

When I am in good weight loss mode, eating healthy and such, i really start to bank the money. When you start to eat healthy you eat less. Common sense.

FF does seem cheap and such, but if you are smart and go to the market, buy healthier foods and actually eat them in lieu of eating out (uh huh, I said eating out) then you will be far ahead.

What happens is people go to the market, spend money on healthy stuff, let it sit and rot while they still eat on the go, or buy too much and it rots. All it takes is a little planning to really eat healthier, and eat cheaper.

thavoice;1039740 wrote:I will say this, i have yo yo'd with my weight over the years. Not something I am proud of.

Mentioned before in years past when people on message boards would talk how they cannot afford to eat healthy.

When I am in good weight loss mode, eating healthy and such, i really start to bank the money. When you start to eat healthy you eat less. Common sense.

FF does seem cheap and such, but if you are smart and go to the market, buy healthier foods and actually eat them in lieu of eating out (uh huh, I said eating out) then you will be far ahead.

What happens is people go to the market, spend money on healthy stuff, let it sit and rot while they still eat on the go, or buy too much and it rots. All it takes is a little planning to really eat healthier, and eat cheaper.

ernest_t_bass;1039758 wrote:Not in a pure free market, they don't.

Scarlet_Buckeye;1039761 wrote:There's no question (at least in my mind) that healthier foods cost more than "junk food." For instance, I can purchase a Big Mac & fries for roughly $4. If I want to purchase a healthier option like buying the ingredients to make a salad, or carrots, or grilled chicken breasts... I'm almost sure it would cost me more than $4 (i.e., a Big Mac & fries).

Scarlet_Buckeye;1039765 wrote:I'm not sure you understand what the concept of corporate social responsibility, since you made that comment.

thavoice;1039773 wrote:I know for 6 dollars I can buy a pound of turkey, or ham, or sometimes roast beef, and a loaf of bread at the market. Depending on how much meat ya put on ya can make a number of sandwichs with that. Lets say 4 oz of meat. That is 4 sandwiches for 6 bucks.

Can buy chicken breasts at the market and salad lettuce for 6-7 bucks, and that will again make 3-4 salads as a meal.

When going good ya can have a good sandwich, some carrots and/or yogurt, for just 2-3 bucks if ya work at it. I would always keep it fresh by picking the meat that was on sale at the deli so it may be ham for a bit, then turkey, etc.

Sure, a ham sandwich may not be the healthiest food to eat in the world, but when you compare calories to lets say a big mac, it is alot of calories saved. I think 4 oz of the ham or turkey was 70 calories, there is 35 calorie bread so two slices of that is 70. Add in some ketchup and you have 150 calories for about a buck 50 a sandwich. Want more? add in some yogurt, you can get that cheap, some carrots and a bag is only a couple of bucks and you also get a great snack during the day.


Also.......when you are eating healthy and in that ode you eat less so that in turn also saves money.

Scarlet_Buckeye;1039761 wrote:There's no question (at least in my mind) that healthier foods cost more than "junk food." For instance, I can purchase a Big Mac & fries for roughly $4. If I want to purchase a healthier option like buying the ingredients to make a salad, or carrots, or grilled chicken breasts... I'm almost sure it would cost me more than $4 (i.e., a Big Mac & fries).

ernest_t_bass;1039778 wrote:I'm not sure you understand the concept of a PURE free market, only driven by self-interest, regulated by competition.

WebFire;1039794 wrote:Free market doesn't really have much to do with social responsibility. A free market doesn't mean car seat manufactures should make car seats that aren't safe. It means they can, but they shouldn't.

thavoice;1039803 wrote:I will be the first to admit that when i start gaining it is because I am just plain being lazy. Lazy on PT, but also very lazy in my food choices.

Instead of thinking ahead and getting up a little earlier to make me a breakfast instead of picking it up on the way, or planning out what i want for lunch and packing it so i don get to work and have to go buy something to eat, and lazy for dinner in not wanting to put that chicken on the grill, or not want to go through the effort to make dinner and just order something or go out to dinner.

It really is laziness that leads to our obesity. When it comes to kids.......that is the laziness of the parents in allowing them to fall into the same traps that adults do.

Fab1b;1039809 wrote:$4 for Big Mac and Fries, where? That's like 1995 price LOL!

Gblock;1039815 wrote:there are also genetic factors for some..i hate to stereotype all fat people as lazy and bad/overeaters. there is a teacher at my school that is about 5foot and 180 or so and looks like a bowling ball. i know for a fact she works out with a trainer 5 days a week and judging by the meals i see her eat at school i think she eats rather well. the trainer is a friend of mine and i asked him how the hell she isnt losing any weight and that she must be eating all night long. he said it is just bad genes...some people he trains never see much in way of results according to him, while others eat horrible and excercise less and see great results

Gblock;1039815 wrote:there are also genetic factors for some..i hate to stereotype all fat people as lazy and bad/overeaters. there is a teacher at my school that is about 5foot and 180 or so and looks like a bowling ball. i know for a fact she works out with a trainer 5 days a week and judging by the meals i see her eat at school i think she eats rather well. the trainer is a friend of mine and i asked him how the hell she isnt losing any weight and that she must be eating all night long. he said it is just bad genes...some people he trains never see much in way of results according to him, while others eat horrible and excercise less and see great results