SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 1:59pm
                            
                        
                                No one says they have to use the roof either (for browns games)  
I think its a pretty logical decision.
                        I think its a pretty logical decision.
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 2:02pm
                            
                        TrueSportsAndLady;1275145 wrote:No one says they have to use the roof either (for browns games)
I think its a pretty logical decision.
Pick6
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 3:12pm
                            
                        
                                I like the roof idea. My argument has already been stated you guys.
                            
                        like_that
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 3:15pm
                            
                        
                                Seems pretty logical to get a roof.  As stated before, they don't have to use it for games, except maybe if a SB was hosted, or  during weather that would delay the game.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 6:18pm
                            
                        
                            Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 6:35pm
                            
                        
                                ^ Awesome
                            
                        Mulva
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 6:55pm
                            
                        I wouldn't personally benefit from a Super Bowl or Final 4 coming to Cleveland. I would have to pay taxes to help fund the dome.BR1986FB;1275094 wrote:I don't attend games so I have no "dog" in this fight but if you have a chance to make the local economy better (through events), you do it.
I get why Haslam would want one, but why would I? It has nothing to do with wanting snowy football.
DeyDurkie5
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 6:57pm
                            
                        Dumbest post I've seen on this site. You are dumb, mulva.Mulva;1275332 wrote:I wouldn't personally benefit from a Super Bowl or Final 4 coming to Cleveland. I would have to pay taxes to help fund the dome.
I get why Haslam would want one, but why would I? It has nothing to do with wanting snowy football.
Mulva
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 6:58pm
                            
                        Can you answer my question?DeyDurkie5;1275333 wrote:Dumbest post I've seen on this site. You are dumb, mulva.
DeyDurkie5
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 7:01pm
                            
                        My answer is why would anyone in the browns organization give two shits about what you think? You are one fan, and one fan only. Talk about pretentious.Mulva;1275334 wrote:Can you answer my question?
Mulva
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 7:11pm
                            
                        lol that doesn't answer my question whatsoever. I pretty clearly said I understood why Haslam would want a dome.DeyDurkie5;1275337 wrote:My answer is why would anyone in the browns organization give two shits about what you think? You are one fan, and one fan only. Talk about pretentious.
I don't get why any taxpayers would support the idea. It isn't "1 fan". It's everyone who would be funding the roof.
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 7:15pm
                            
                        I think he was posting the question from the perspective of the taxpayers of Cleveland, not just himself.DeyDurkie5;1275337 wrote:My answer is why would anyone in the browns organization give two shits about what you think? You are one fan, and one fan only. Talk about pretentious.
Mulva
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 7:19pm
                            
                        I am too dumb to do that. I am dumb.BR1986FB;1275341 wrote:I think he was posting the question from the perspective of the taxpayers of Cleveland, not just himself.
                                        
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                                Sep 19, 2012 7:22pm
                            
                        Mulva;1275344 wrote:I am too dumb to do that. I am dumb.
                            Pick6
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 7:41pm
                            
                        More events in Cleveland = better for the economy??!?!?Mulva;1275332 wrote:I wouldn't personally benefit from a Super Bowl or Final 4 coming to Cleveland. I would have to pay taxes to help fund the dome.
I get why Haslam would want one, but why would I? It has nothing to do with wanting snowy football.
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 7:46pm
                            
                        I don't think a lot of people look at it that way though. Most people come from the "what does it do for ME?" angle. I get what you're saying about the economy but most people aren't that forward thinking.Pick6;1275372 wrote:More events in Cleveland = better for the economy??!?!?
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                                Sep 19, 2012 8:24pm
                            
                        NCAA just bailed out on a D2 event last month for that exact reason (they also bitched about it after the women's Final Four a few years ago). But, after all of the casino work, it may be a new ballgame.wes_mantooth;1275070 wrote:absolutely. There is no other reason to even consider a roof except for that. A super bowl in Cleveland would be bananas, but I wonder if there are enough hotels? Jacksonville had that problem.
http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/cleveland_metro/major-ncaa-event-cancels-on-cleveland-citing-not-enough-hotels-close-together-downtown
OQB
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 8:27pm
                            
                        
                                Haslam talks with city council video:
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OQB
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 8:28pm
                            
                        
                                Article on possible dome additions:
http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/09/cleveland_browns_stadium_and_a.html
                        http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/09/cleveland_browns_stadium_and_a.html
Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 9:17pm
                            
                        
                                I dont gaf if they add a dome or not, just want it open for Browns games. Thats tradition, hard nose Clevelanders attitude, home field advantage, etc... 
Imagine a Dec Packers home game in a dome...What a fucking joke that would be.
                        Imagine a Dec Packers home game in a dome...What a fucking joke that would be.
Pick6
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 9:34pm
                            
                        Well they should be, because it will affect the people working downtown. More attractions = more people = more local business revenue= more jobs, and could be the difference between keeping and losing your job.BR1986FB;1275374 wrote:I don't think a lot of people look at it that way though. Most people come from the "what does it do for ME?" angle. I get what you're saying about the economy but most people aren't that forward thinking.
I was downtown a few weeks ago. Went to the casino, and afterwards I was going to go to Cadillac Ranch. First thing I notice, Cadillac Ranch isnt Cadillac Ranch anymore. Second thing, it was closed at 9pm.
Mulva
                                                                            
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                                Sep 19, 2012 9:41pm
                            
                        I'm not sure the economy thing is accurate anyway. You need to showcase the city well during that event to get people to keep coming back and spending money there long term, because they don't help the city that much in the short run. Indy lost $1 million on the super bowl. Just about every city loses huge hosting the Olympics. I don't know if a casino and the rock n roll hall of fame would be enough to keep people coming to downtown Cleveland. There's no guarantee a major event would even ever happen. A super bowl might come to Cleveland once in 20 years, if ever. When is the last time a national convention repeated in a city that wasn't New York?BR1986FB;1275374 wrote:I don't think a lot of people look at it that way though. Most people come from the "what does it do for ME?" angle. I get what you're saying about the economy but most people aren't that forward thinking.
The benefit would have to be extremely long term, because there just aren't that many events that require a 70,000 person domed stadium. But I definitely come at it from a "what does it do for me" angle regardless.
Anyway, enough stadium talk. Anyone feeling good about Sunday? Bills have lost 8 straight away from home and they're 3-14 on the road since the start of 2010. Honestly I felt better about last week, but I can't feel too counted out going against Fitzpatrick.
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Sep 20, 2012 5:07am
                            
                        Wut?Commander of Awesome;1275450 wrote: home field advantage, etc...
wes_mantooth
                                                                            
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                                Sep 20, 2012 7:02am
                            
                        
                                Welp, fab4 and I found our Sunday home last night.  I have some paperwork to do and it needs a paint job on the front of it....but it is perfect for us....
                            
                        
                            
                                        
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                                Sep 20, 2012 7:50am
                            
                        
                                Well done...