shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Sep 20, 2012 7:55am
I will be lookin for you dudes then
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Sep 20, 2012 8:00am
Yeah, stop over. I am hoping to have it for the game this weekend, but it is going to be tough. I still have to get the title...get plates...all that shit.shook_17;1275663 wrote:I will be lookin for you dudes then
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 20, 2012 8:23am
I'll be interested to see if Weeden puts together back-to-back solid performances. He faced a pretty awful defense last week and should have a bigger test this week with the Bills front four bringing a pass rush. His success will likely determine whether Richardson has a big day and vice versa. Against the Bengals, Weeden's ability to throw down the field opened up running lanes for Richardson and the play action (Richardson as a threat) opened up the passing game.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Sep 20, 2012 8:42am
No doubt that both Weeden and Richardson need each other for this offense to even resemble a NFL offense.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Sep 20, 2012 8:52am
Pretty nice man... and you should just leave it as is would represent the Browns wellwes_mantooth;1275641 wrote:Welp, fab4 and I found our Sunday home last night. I have some paperwork to do and it needs a paint job on the front of it....but it is perfect for us....
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like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 20, 2012 8:54am
Richardson's running game opened it up for Weeden. No way I am giving credit to Weeden for opening it up for Richardson.BR1986FB;1275681 wrote:I'll be interested to see if Weeden puts together back-to-back solid performances. He faced a pretty awful defense last week and should have a bigger test this week with the Bills front four bringing a pass rush. His success will likely determine whether Richardson has a big day and vice versa. Against the Bengals, Weeden's ability to throw down the field opened up running lanes for Richardson and the play action (Richardson as a threat) opened up the passing game.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 20, 2012 9:00am
Your unblinded hatred of Weeden is noted. If you can't see that Weeden's ability to throw down the field also opened up things for T-Rich, you know less about the game than I thought.like_that;1275705 wrote:Richardson's running game opened it up for Weeden. No way I am giving credit to Weeden for opening it up for Richardson.
BTW...that was an easy "setup" as I knew your hatred for Weeden would give him no credit. Pretty simple Football 101. They both fed off each others skills. If Weeden isn't completing passes, the Bengals are stacking the box and there's no way T-Rich has the same kind of game.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 20, 2012 9:06am
Geezus BR that's unlike you. Rough morning? I can't even remember the last time I even mentioned McCoy, let alone even said he should be the starter over Weeden (because I never said McCoy should be starter over Weeden, nor did I ever say he was better). So that McCoy argument might work for other posters (although I have no idea who the hell that might be), but it sure as hell won't work on me. You and Iggy need to get over the McCoy shit. It's old.BR1986FB;1275711 wrote:Keepin lickin on the McCoy nutsack. Your unblinded hatred of Weeden is noted. If you can't see that Weeden's ability to throw down the field also opened up things for T-Rich, you know less about the game than I thought.
I gave Weeden his props, he had a really good game, but if you think he would have had that game without Richardson's game then you are kidding yourself.
Keep licking on Weeden's nutsack though. /br
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Sep 20, 2012 9:09am
lol...it is obvious that balance is what it is all about. They are going to both benefit off of each other. I am kinda with like_that though...I believe more in that a good running game helps the qb more so. That is not exclusive to Weeden/Richardson...but to everyone in the league.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 20, 2012 9:10am
You might want to re-read my post. They fed off each other. If Weeden can't complete passes down the field, Richardson probably looks pretty crappy and if Richardson isn't running well, Weeden probably looks like shit. I highly doubt it's one or the other. Richardson doesn't have a good game without Weeden and vice versa.like_that;1275720 wrote:
I gave Weeden his props, he had a really good game, but if you think he would have had that game without Richardson's game then you are kidding yourself.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 20, 2012 9:11am
My thoughts exactly. You can argue T Rich even opened up the passing game when Weeden decided to dump to him. The Browns offense looked similar to the Texans offense last Sunday, which relies on the run to set up the pass.wes_mantooth;1275723 wrote:lol...it is obvious that balance is what it is all about. They are going to both benefit off of each other. I am kinda with like_that though...I believe more in that a good running game helps the qb more so. That is not exclusive to Weeden/Richardson...but to everyone in the league.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 20, 2012 9:12am
Oh, I believe a good running game definitely helps the QB but if the QB looks like shit the running game isn't going to be effective. Opposing teams will know you're going to run the ball and will shut that shit down immediately. The Browns O-Line AND Richardson aren't that talented to overcome something like that.wes_mantooth;1275723 wrote:lol...it is obvious that balance is what it is all about. They are going to both benefit off of each other. I am kinda with like_that though...I believe more in that a good running game helps the qb more so. That is not exclusive to Weeden/Richardson...but to everyone in the league.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 20, 2012 9:13am
Weeden had a great game, and if he does that consistently the team will be dangerous in years to come, however I am giving more of the credit to T Rich for opening up the game than I will Weeden. Sorry. Tom Brady could have been the QB, and I still would have given T Rich more of the credit.BR1986FB;1275724 wrote:You might want to re-read my post. They fed off each other. If Weeden can't complete passes down the field, Richardson probably looks pretty crappy and if Richardson isn't running well, Weeden probably looks like shit. I highly doubt it's one or the other. Richardson doesn't have a good game without Weeden and vice versa.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 20, 2012 9:22am
Anyone else getting concerned about Thomas? He hasn't looked the same out there to me.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 20, 2012 9:24am
I think his knee is causing the issue. Not reacting fast enough against speed rushers.Commander of Awesome;1275739 wrote:Anyone else getting concerned about Thomas? He hasn't looked the same out there to me.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Sep 20, 2012 9:24am
Commander of Awesome;1275739 wrote:Anyone else getting concerned about Thomas? He hasn't looked the same out there to me.
I think he is good, but not as good as everyone has always made him out to be. I am not really concerned though...still a top ten left tackle in the league
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 20, 2012 9:29am
Get the FUCK out of this thread. NOW!wes_mantooth;1275744 wrote:I think he is good, but not as good as everyone has always made him out to be. I am not really concerned though...still a top ten left tackle in the league
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 20, 2012 9:32am
LOL....since when are the Bills good enough to have a "trap game?" Same could be said for the Browns. Bills suck and the Browns have the Ravens a week from tonight...
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/48075/are-browns-a-trap-game-for-bills
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/48075/are-browns-a-trap-game-for-bills
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Sep 20, 2012 9:33am
I don't want to start anything, but I'll just say I disagree with your very strongly. Joe Thomas is definitely the best LT in the game, and probably the best LT I've ever seen play. Orlando Pace and Walter Jones would be the next two on my list.wes_mantooth;1275744 wrote:I think he is good, but not as good as everyone has always made him out to be. I am not really concerned though...still a top ten left tackle in the league
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 20, 2012 9:56am
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Sep 20, 2012 10:03am
For those interested, just got this e-mail from Browns Backers Worldwide...
Meet Cleveland Browns Alumni this Saturday at the West Park Paninis! The following alumni are signing autographs from 12:00 until 2:00:
Bernie Kosar
Michael Dean Perry
Frank Minnifield
... Hanford Dixon
Reggie Langhorne
Webster Slaughter
Kevin Mack
Felix Wright
A super ticket for all 8 guys will be available for $50. Individual ticket pricing will also be available.
Meet Cleveland Browns Alumni this Saturday at the West Park Paninis! The following alumni are signing autographs from 12:00 until 2:00:
Bernie Kosar
Michael Dean Perry
Frank Minnifield
... Hanford Dixon
Reggie Langhorne
Webster Slaughter
Kevin Mack
Felix Wright
A super ticket for all 8 guys will be available for $50. Individual ticket pricing will also be available.
wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Sep 20, 2012 10:15am
yeah, I think a lot of people would agree with you.Commander of Awesome;1275750 wrote:I don't want to start anything, but I'll just say I disagree with your very strongly. Joe Thomas is definitely the best LT in the game, and probably the best LT I've ever seen play. Orlando Pace and Walter Jones would be the next two on my list.
And also, since Matty H was always my fav player...I followed the Seahawks closely. Walter Jones was awesome, but also had Steve Hutchinson next to him...which helped a lot.
OQB
Posts: 6,679
Sep 20, 2012 10:24am
ESPN in general is a joke....all they care about is the big market teams and twist the knife anytime they can when it comes to Cleveland sports. James Walker is an idiot who use to write for the AFC North blog, but got moved to cover the Pats/Jets/Dolphins/Bills and now he thinks he is somebody.BR1986FB;1275748 wrote:LOL....since when are the Bills good enough to have a "trap game?" Same could be said for the Browns. Bills suck and the Browns have the Ravens a week from tonight...
http://espn.go.com/blog/afceast/post/_/id/48075/are-browns-a-trap-game-for-bills
Enforcer
Posts: 2,140
Sep 20, 2012 12:34pm
Damn, if I was closer I would def be thereBR1986FB;1275790 wrote:For those interested, just got this e-mail from Browns Backers Worldwide...
Meet Cleveland Browns Alumni this Saturday at the West Park Paninis! The following alumni are signing autographs from 12:00 until 2:00:
Bernie Kosar
Michael Dean Perry
Frank Minnifield
... Hanford Dixon
Reggie Langhorne
Webster Slaughter
Kevin Mack
Felix Wright
A super ticket for all 8 guys will be available for $50. Individual ticket pricing will also be available.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Sep 20, 2012 12:42pm
Speaking of Browns Backers. For those of you who go to Browns Backers bars to watch the game, Great Lakes is coming out with a Cleveland Browns Ale in November and they are supposed to distribute it to every Browns Backers bar.