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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 17, 2012 2:10pm
I don't make an "outlandish prediction" every year. I picked the Cavs to make the playoffs the year after LBJ left and I was wrong. You want an ipad for that?like_that;1249368 wrote:If you make an outlandish prediction every season it is bound to eventually come true. You have diluted the meaning of your "bold" predictions. I can see the day when it finally comes true and you try to brag about it.
That year became a train wreck because their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th best players were shelved for the year by injury. The Browns will compete for the division this year if several things happen.
1. They stay remarkably healthy...something they never do.
2. Childress works magic in the offensive passing scheme in getting the receivers open. I believe that he will.
3. The right side of the line plays better than average.
4. Their defense builds over last year and elevates their play.
I don't think Pittsburgh, Cincinatti, nor Baltimore are elite teams. Pitt and Baltimore have come back to the pack a little bit.
What I did do....I made a hefty wager on the total wins over 4.5 games this year.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 17, 2012 2:14pm
Yeah I know. Having the best record in all of baseball doesn't mean shit either.SportsAndLady;1249370 wrote:And not o mention are not running away with their division.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 17, 2012 2:16pm
I agree, they will need a perfect storm. It happens every year with at least one team in the NFL. That was the point I was trying to make.BR1986FB;1249376 wrote:Derek Anderception also had proven receivers in Braylon (ready to breakout at the time), K2 & Joe J. If we had one of those type of players on this team I might be inclined to have a bit more optimism, Footwedge.
These guys are going to need some seasoning. Is the upside/talent there? Sure, but the chances of that type of "perfect storm" happening are about as likely as Grady Sizemore avoiding his annual vaginal infection amd going on the DL.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Aug 17, 2012 2:24pm
i actually agree with what S&L said earlier. he made a great point. the browns roster will be like the 49ers next year with another draft. a decent amount of talent and shitty coaching. shurmur needs to make the playoffs to stay here i think, which they won't. so they will bring in a new head coach and now we are talking. this isn't an anti shurmur post, i like the guy, hope he is successful here.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Aug 17, 2012 2:39pm
seen jordon shipley got cut today by the bengals. any takers?
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Aug 17, 2012 3:04pm
shook_17;1249405 wrote:cut today by the bengals
Must be a reason, not like they have the patriots wr corps.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 17, 2012 3:05pm
Heard he was kind of a "forgotten man" and had fallen behind the newer guys.bases_loaded;1249420 wrote:Must be a reason, not like they have the patriots wr corps.
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Mikey McD
Posts: 126
Aug 17, 2012 3:06pm
They are just going to bring 85 back duh... I mean shipley wouldn't be that bad would he? One of the best things is he can run routes right?bases_loaded;1249420 wrote:Must be a reason, not like they have the patriots wr corps.
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Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Aug 17, 2012 3:11pm
I mean what's the worst that can happen? We bring him in, he blows, we cut him. I dont see why we shouldn't give him a try. And yes, he's an excellent route runner.Mikey McD;1249425 wrote:They are just going to bring 85 back duh... I mean shipley wouldn't be that bad would he? One of the best things is he can run routes right?
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jmog
Posts: 6,567
Aug 17, 2012 3:12pm
It looked to me like they were in cover 2 and he just trailed the WR some because no one else was in his zone. I could be wrong.Pick6;1248749 wrote:I think he was, but it stil doesn't change the fact he was in man.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Aug 17, 2012 3:31pm
Without looking, who is the bengals #2?
Shipley couldn't beat him out
Shipley couldn't beat him out
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Aug 17, 2012 4:02pm
here is a good read on breaking down weeden.
http://nfl.si.com/2012/08/17/breaking-down-brandon-weedens-second-start/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
http://nfl.si.com/2012/08/17/breaking-down-brandon-weedens-second-start/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 17, 2012 4:07pm
Didn't you make a case that the receivers werent as bad as they looked last year? Before Colt was the problem, now it's just the WRs.BR1986FB;1249376 wrote:Derek Anderception also had proven receivers in Braylon (ready to breakout at the time), K2 & Joe J. If we had one of those type of players on this team I might be inclined to have a bit more optimism, Footwedge.
These guys are going to need some seasoning. Is the upside/talent there? Sure, but the chances of that type of "perfect storm" happening are about as likely as Grady Sizemore avoiding his annual vaginal infection amd going on the DL.
Terry_Tate
Posts: 7,606
Aug 17, 2012 4:09pm
bases_loaded;1249445 wrote:Without looking, who is the bengals #2?
Shipley couldn't beat him out
Shipley is coming off a torn ACL and has only been able to really practice since July 30 I believe. Its not that the Bengals are loaded but they have enough solid guys and Shipley just physically isn't up to par yet. I do think he can be a good receiver in the league though.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Aug 17, 2012 4:09pm
How is Baltimore not an elite team? They just went to the AFC championship game last season.Footwedge;1249385 wrote:I don't make an "outlandish prediction" every year. I picked the Cavs to make the playoffs the year after LBJ left and I was wrong. You want an ipad for that?
That year became a train wreck because their 2nd, 3rd, 4th, and 5th best players were shelved for the year by injury. The Browns will compete for the division this year if several things happen.
1. They stay remarkably healthy...something they never do.
2. Childress works magic in the offensive passing scheme in getting the receivers open. I believe that he will.
3. The right side of the line plays better than average.
4. Their defense builds over last year and elevates their play.
I don't think Pittsburgh, Cincinatti, nor Baltimore are elite teams. Pitt and Baltimore have come back to the pack a little bit.
What I did do....I made a hefty wager on the total wins over 4.5 games this year.
Rotinaj
Posts: 7,699
Aug 17, 2012 4:28pm
The jets made the afc champ game 2 years in a row and aren't elite. But, I'm with you on this. I think the ravens will be in the elite category for at least 1 more year.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Aug 17, 2012 4:57pm
I said that they will come back to the pack a little bit. I don't think they are an elite team this year. And I also think Flacco is a below average quarterback. A guy who sucks in the clutch...unlike Eli and others.bigdaddy2003;1249463 wrote:How is Baltimore not an elite team? They just went to the AFC championship game last season.
For 3 years or so, I watched in horror as Flacco single handedly snagged defeat from the jaws of victory against Pittspuke.
This year, you should see the injury bug hit the aging Ravens on defense. Ed Reed had an incredible bounceback year...I don't expect him to play at that level this year.
bigdaddy2003
Posts: 7,384
Aug 17, 2012 5:19pm
Yes, I should've threw in the fact that they've made the playoffs the last 4 years and were in the AFC championship game last season.Rotinaj;1249475 wrote:The jets made the afc champ game 2 years in a row and aren't elite. But, I'm with you on this. I think the ravens will be in the elite category for at least 1 more year.
I guess we can agree to disagree. I think the Ravens will win the division but that is what I'm going to say as a fan.Footwedge;1249491 wrote:I said that they will come back to the pack a little bit. I don't think they are an elite team this year. And I also think Flacco is a below average quarterback. A guy who sucks in the clutch...unlike Eli and others.
For 3 years or so, I watched in horror as Flacco single handedly snagged defeat from the jaws of victory against Pittspuke.
This year, you should see the injury bug hit the aging Ravens on defense. Ed Reed had an incredible bounceback year...I don't expect him to play at that level this year.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 17, 2012 6:44pm
They weren't as bad but we still didn't have a K2, Braylon (at his best) and Joe J. Or perhaps I'll explain it in a language you'll understand....we didn't have a Jason Witten, Miles Austion or Dez Bryant last year either. :rolleyes:Pick6;1249461 wrote:Didn't you make a case that the receivers werent as bad as they looked last year? Before Colt was the problem, now it's just the WRs.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Aug 17, 2012 6:47pm
Baltimore's going to take a step back. O-Line issues and the loss of Suggs is going to hurt. Pittsburgh will likely be in a world of hurt too. I picked the Bengals 3rd in the division but from what I'm hearing coming out of their camp, wouldn't surprise me if they won the division. I'm still skeptical until they beat a .500 team though.bigdaddy2003;1249463 wrote:How is Baltimore not an elite team? They just went to the AFC championship game last season.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Aug 17, 2012 6:52pm
I honestly think the whole division takes a step back. I only see one team getting to the playoffs, and I wouldn't be surprised if it is a subpar record.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Aug 17, 2012 7:49pm
i think i was reading something on the OBR about childress called plays last night? any truth to that? i hit mary kay up on twitter waiting for a response.
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BoatShoes
Posts: 5,703
Aug 17, 2012 8:06pm
Not going to get false hope but I felt the Brownies looked pretty darn good last night.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Aug 17, 2012 8:52pm
I don't know who Miles Austion is.BR1986FB;1249540 wrote:They weren't as bad but we still didn't have a K2, Braylon (at his best) and Joe J. Or perhaps I'll explain it in a language you'll understand....we didn't have a Jason Witten, Miles Austion or Dez Bryant last year either. :rolleyes:
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Aug 18, 2012 1:10am
That obviously does mean something (they're a good team). But it still doesn't mean they're running away with their division. 4 game lead is not running away with it, especially since the Braves are showing no signs of giving up on the division.Footwedge;1249388 wrote:Yeah I know. Having the best record in all of baseball doesn't mean shit either.
If I were a betting man (which, I am), I'd bet a good amount of money the Braves win the NL East.