Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 25, 2012 6:18pm
I read that he only had 4 catches of 20+ yards in his entire collegiate career. That's awful if true. Plus he ran like a 4.7. I don't really want any part of him.SportsAndLady;1152195 wrote:I can't believe not many media outlets are talking about Mohammed Sanu. He's graded a 2nd-3rd round pick right now...I hope to God the Browns take him if he's there in the fricken 3rd round. I think he's going to be very good.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 25, 2012 7:02pm
He was the freakin QB three years ago lol two years ago he was in an offense that was dead last (I think this is true...if not dead last, it was near the bottom) in passing offense. Last year he had a good year w/ two different QBs alternating throughout the year.Mulva;1152861 wrote:I read that he only had 4 catches of 20+ yards in his entire collegiate career. That's awful if true. Plus he ran like a 4.7. I don't really want any part of him.
He doesn't grade well when it comes to physical evaluations, combine times, etc. I concede that. But the guy is really freakin good and makes some of the craziest catches in traffic that you'll ever see. He's not afraid of going over the middle, he's HUGE, and can take a hit. Perfect AFC North receiver if you ask me.
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SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 25, 2012 7:04pm
Check out this highlight video...I know you can make one of these for every prospect in the NFL draft, but mainly pay attention to a) his hands b) his physical play and c) his catches in traffic.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 25, 2012 7:15pm
Jesus...these idiots are in talks with Minnesota to move UP to 3 to ensure they get Richardson per Charlie Casserly. If that happens, "bye bye 2nd or 3rd round pick."
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 25, 2012 7:17pm
Browns? Or other idiots?BR1986FB;1152892 wrote:Jesus...these idiots are in talks with Minnesota to move UP to 3 to ensure they get Richardson per Charlie Casserly. If that happens, "bye bye 2nd or 3rd round pick."
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 25, 2012 7:24pm
Browns.SportsAndLady;1152896 wrote:Browns? Or other idiots?
Trading UP for T-Rich would be almost as big of a fail as staying piut, at 4, and taking Tannehill. This would be a Butch Davis-like panic move to go UP for Richardson.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 25, 2012 7:33pm
Sorry, I just don't want another slow possession receiver. He looks Greg Little with less upside.
I'd prefer a legit #1 option, but if we aren't getting that we need a deep threat/slot guy more than another strong runner who won't average more than 10 yards per catch.
I'd prefer a legit #1 option, but if we aren't getting that we need a deep threat/slot guy more than another strong runner who won't average more than 10 yards per catch.
Benny The Jet
Posts: 2,987
Apr 25, 2012 7:49pm
So lets pretend we DO take Weeden at 22. Does that mean the front office is saying "he's our man, not Colt" or does it mean "we still believe in Colt, until he keeps checking down and we hear all the boos and calls for Weeden and we feel forced to play him"? It just doesn't make much sense...if you draft him he's gotta play right off the bat, you can't let him sit a year and develop. He'll be 29 in October.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 25, 2012 7:59pm
Well yeah Mulva I'm not saying he should be the only WR we add. Lol.Mulva;1152908 wrote:Sorry, I just don't want another slow possession receiver. He looks Greg Little with less upside.
I'd prefer a legit #1 option, but if we aren't getting that we need a deep threat/slot guy more than another strong runner who won't average more than 10 yards per catch.
I'm saying if we get a speed guy, say at 22 we take Kendall Wright, you wouldn't be happy with Wright and Sanu in this draft?
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 25, 2012 8:02pm
I think Wright could play a Desean Jackson-type role in this offense. Good in the slot/underneath if you need him and also capable of stretching the field.SportsAndLady;1152915 wrote:Well yeah Mulva I'm not saying he should be the only WR we add. Lol.
I'm saying if we get a speed guy, say at 22 we take Kendall Wright, you wouldn't be happy with Wright and Sanu in this draft?
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Apr 25, 2012 8:08pm
SportsAndLady;1152915 wrote:Well yeah Mulva I'm not saying he should be the only WR we add. Lol.
I'm saying if we get a speed guy, say at 22 we take Kendall Wright, you wouldn't be happy with Wright and Sanu in this draft?
I would be very happy with that. Sanu is a great 3rd down reliable guy and wright stretches the field. And then little is a bit of both
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 25, 2012 8:11pm
kendall wright is a fat bitch.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Apr 25, 2012 8:12pm
i think our wide out group would be upgraded with trich at 4 wright/hill/jeffery at 22 evan moore and greg little and norwood, with weeden at 37, this offense could score some points.BR1986FB;1152918 wrote:I think Wright could play a Desean Jackson-type role in this offense. Good in the slot/underneath if you need him and also capable of stretching the field.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 25, 2012 8:16pm
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We can now, realistically, begin to ponder how long Mike Holmgren is going to last as Team President of the Cleveland Browns. The reboot risk factors are all there: more losing seasons, a roster that remains thin and riddled with holes, lack of confidence in the teams starting quarterback, a rough schedule, a toxic media environment. While the team argues that "things have changed" in Cleveland, those changes aren't obvious from their won-loss record, where a 5-11 and 4-12 record under Holmgren's leadership are identical to what the team accomplished in five of the seven seasons prior. Optimistic fans could point to possible parallels to 2007. That squad had gone 4-12 the year before and had a schedule that was heralded as certain doom for team's front office. Somehow, miraculously, the offense clicked and the Browns had their best season since 1994, going 10-6 and barely missing the playoffs. Barring that sort of reversal, this season already feels more like the 2009 campaign, where fan frustration and media opportunism overflowed into a season of pure misery. The biggest risk factor heading into 2012 is that that Holmgren's image in Cleveland has gone from savior to savaged in just three seasons. Justified or not, the image that Holmgren is currently being promulgated in Cleveland is that of a somewhat uninvolved, vacation-happy chief executive resting his feet on a large desk in his corner office while he talks to radio shows in Seattle. This image is likely unfair to the Team President. Fans and the local media focus entirely on the football side of the organization, and expect Holmgren to have a similar focus. But that doesn't map to his role in the organization: Holmgren's responsibilities supposedly encompass both the less-visible business side of the organization in addition to being Tom Heckert and Pat Shurmur's boss. Being the lead "football man" in the organization actually IS a part-time job for Holmgren. The developing negative perception of Holmgren, plus the selection of the low-key Shurmur as head coach and the go-slow approach of building through the draft, has provided a wide target for ratings-frantic sportstalkers and page-view-hungry websites to go on the attack during this off-season. That will only heat up when the team is playing games that matter. The most recent broadside levelled at Holmgren is that he was not present during a rescheduled visit by QB prospect Ryan Tannehill. Speculating endlessly and without the benefit of any of the relevant facts, the local media has filled airtime with continually reinforced images of Holmgren as a do-nothing Team President. The greatest irony is that the Browns are finally doing things in a way that makes sense for the long term, delaying gratification in order to try to build the team around a consistent philosophy. Resisting the urge to duct tape the roster by overpaying for free agents, the Holmgren team has the misfortune of having adopted a philosophy in 2012 that should have been in place in 1999. The football moves largely make sense, even if they've been immediately unsatisfying on the field. Last year's trade-down in the draft was a textbook example of what to do when you have roster riddled with holes. Knowing that the rebuild was going to be a multi-year process, the Browns accumulated future picks while trading into an area of the draft that allowed for the more cost-effective reconstruction of their defensive line. While Shurmur still has a lot to prove, his hire and the Browns personnel moves revolve around Holmgren's preferred West Coast Offense, giving the team a nascent offensive identity for the first time since their return in 1999. But Holmgren and crew are being asked to pay back a debt to Browns fans that has been amassing since 1999 and before. The Browns faithful are the most put-upon fans on the planet, and are well aware of their status. Patience disappeared years ago. But patience is what is needed now. It will be up to the team's owner, Randy Lerner, to determine if this is yet another abortive experiment, or whether a long-term winning culture is being established. Lerner, despite his carefully maintained low profile, is very sensitive to criticism of his team, and is particularly aware of criticism by passionate fans. He soaks it all in, and responds in some situations where he feels he can make his case fairly. It is incumbent upon Lerner to ignore what is likely to be a firestorm of vitriol directed at his franchise throughout the 2012 season. Holmgren and Heckert need to have at least through 2013 to show progress with the franchise, given draft-oriented approach they've taken to building it. The validity of the team's draft orientation won't matter if it loses the first five games. The airwaves will be full of nothing but negativity, and no excuses for poor performance will be tolerated. Local sports personalities will jockey for attention, attempting to out-do each other's over-the-top rants as the team struggles. The Cleveland Browns post-expansion history of pre-ordained failure has been well-documented. It's up to the team's leaders to determine whether they are currently writing just another repetitive chapter of that book, or are whether they are finally bringing it to a conclusion. It won't be easy to put in the blinders, keep a sense of humor, and get through what may be another tough season. In fact, it may be the hardest thing that Lerner and Holmgren have ever done. But it's the best hope we have. http://cle.scout.com/2/1180902.html |
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Apr 25, 2012 8:56pm
Not with Weeden at QB sorry.shook_17;1152931 wrote:i think our wide out group would be upgraded with trich at 4 wright/hill/jeffery at 22 evan moore and greg little and norwood, with weeden at 37, this offense could score some points.
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Sonofanump
Apr 25, 2012 8:57pm
Reports are stating Jets thinking of moving from #16 along with next years first round for the #3 overall this year.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Apr 25, 2012 9:01pm
I would love Wright. I hope we grab him at 22.SportsAndLady;1152915 wrote:Well yeah Mulva I'm not saying he should be the only WR we add. Lol.
I'm saying if we get a speed guy, say at 22 we take Kendall Wright, you wouldn't be happy with Wright and Sanu in this draft?
I think Sanu would be a waste of a pick. If we didn't already have Little (and Cribbs, and Moore) I would probably think differently.
derek bomar
Posts: 3,722
Apr 25, 2012 9:04pm
if the Jets move up to 3, gimme Kalil at 4 and best WR available at 22. Then grab a RB in the 2nd. Fuckkkkkkkkkk Weeden and Tannefail.
Mr Miyagi
Posts: 1,211
Apr 25, 2012 9:05pm
Reports now that Bills want to trade up for Kalil http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/25/report-bills-want-to-trade-up-for-matt-kalil/
Mr Miyagi
Posts: 1,211
Apr 25, 2012 9:13pm
Russ Lande (former long time scout with Browns and Rams and now Sporting News blogger/draft analyst was on KNR this afternoon, said Browns take Tannehill.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 25, 2012 9:18pm
For my TV's sake, I hope we don't take tannehill. Though I would still like that pic better than Blackmon.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Apr 25, 2012 9:26pm
LOL, you are to Blackmon as BR is to McCoy (even though he hasn't been as bad).Commander of Awesome;1152995 wrote:For my TV's sake, I hope we don't take tannehill. Though I would still like that pic better than Blackmon.
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Apr 25, 2012 9:27pm
If tannehill is there at 22 I wouldn't mind it. I think he could be a good nfl qb. He needs a little work but if they handle it right he good be good
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 25, 2012 9:32pm
but what if they take blackmon?Commander of Awesome;1152995 wrote:For my TV's sake, I hope we don't take tannehill. Though I would still like that pic better than Blackmon.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 25, 2012 9:32pm
Yeah I'm starting to get a bit repetitive about it. He's a late first prospect IMO and it pisses me off to see him going to the Browns at #4. I would take min or 4 WRs ahead of him.Pick6;1153013 wrote:LOL, you are to Blackmon as BR is to McCoy (even though he hasn't been as bad).