2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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BR1986FB
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Apr 24, 2012 7:54am
Have heard that two teams have Gilmore ranked above Claiborne.
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BR1986FB
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Apr 24, 2012 8:07am
Are you FRIGGIN kidding me? Don't know which team it is but the Browns supposedly have an offer BETTER than last years Atlanta deal but are expected to NOT take it and stay put?

Their top 2 rated players on their board are T-Rich & Blackmon.

They have Weeden rated higher than Tannehill.

Have talked to JAX about trading down to 7.

Browns have Gilmore rated equally with Claiborne at corner.

Sounds like Richardson will be the pick over Blackmon.
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Apr 24, 2012 8:08am
BR1986FB;1151310 wrote:Have heard that two teams have Gilmore ranked above Claiborne.
I've read this too.
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Apr 24, 2012 8:29am
Would you guys trade down for a greater haul than last years' Falcons deal? I'd have to imagine the team in question is in the late teens/early 20's at a minimum to collect that big of a haul. JAX, at 7, isn't giving up that much.
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Apr 24, 2012 8:30am
BR1986FB;1151322 wrote:Are you FRIGGIN kidding me? Don't know which team it is but the Browns supposedly have an offer BETTER than last years Atlanta deal but are expected to NOT take it and stay put?

Their top 2 rated players on their board are T-Rich & Blackmon.

They have Weeden rated higher than Tannehill.

Have talked to JAX about trading down to 7.

Browns have Gilmore rated equally with Claiborne at corner.

Sounds like Richardson will be the pick over Blackmon.
All this according to..?
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Apr 24, 2012 8:31am
SportsAndLady;1151338 wrote:All this according to..?
OBR
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Apr 24, 2012 8:33am
BR1986FB;1151337 wrote:Would you guys trade down for a greater haul than last years' Falcons deal? I'd have to imagine the team in question is in the late teens/early 20's at a minimum to collect that big of a haul. JAX, at 7, isn't giving up that much.

I don't want to drop out of the top ten
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BR1986FB
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Apr 24, 2012 8:35am
Janoris Jenkins and Dre Kirkpatrick are still on their board too (haven't been discounted due to character concerns)
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Apr 24, 2012 8:36am
Commander of Awesome;1151340 wrote:OBR
Correct...LA
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Apr 24, 2012 8:40am
BR1986FB;1151345 wrote:Janoris Jenkins and Dre Kirkpatrick are still on their board too (haven't been discounted due to character concerns)
Good. I like Jenkins at 37 if he is till there. He is a Pac Man Jones Knucklehead, but Pac man had a few productive years, I think he has the most upside of any of the CBs in the draft.
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Apr 24, 2012 8:41am
OneBuckeye;1151349 wrote:Good. I like Jenkins at 37 if he is till there. He is a Pac Man Jones Knucklehead, but Pac man had quite a few productive years, I think he has the most upside of any of the CBs in the draft.
A lot of people think he's a better pure cover corner than Claiborne. He's also a natural RCB and has played opposite of Haden who prefers the LCB position.
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Apr 24, 2012 11:10am
Not sure if anyone had seen this. Now all we have to do is draft some clay pigeons to go with him. Unfortunately their YAC is terrible..

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/video-brandon-weeden-uses-rifle-passing-arm-hunt-180146210.html
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Apr 24, 2012 11:16am
I don't blame them for passing on a bigger offer if it means trading out of the top 10. We passed on Julio Jones last year, I would hate to see us pass on an explosive playmaker again...
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Apr 24, 2012 11:19am
Drums of War;1151507 wrote:Not sure if anyone had seen this. Now all we have to do is draft some clay pigeons to go with him. Unfortunately their YAC is terrible..

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/video-brandon-weeden-uses-rifle-passing-arm-hunt-180146210.html

I think I saw it five pages ago.

It's impressive even if you don't want him
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Apr 24, 2012 11:20am
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1151509 wrote:I don't blame them for passing on a bigger offer if it means trading out of the top 10. We passed on Julio Jones last year, I would hate to see us pass on an explosive playmaker again...
I don't think they would drop out of the top 10. The lowest I could see them dropping is to 10 and that's only if Kalil falls to 4.
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Apr 24, 2012 11:30am
Well if we're being offered a bigger package than last year and still remaining inside the top 10, I would say that we should take it and continue to wheel and deal to move multiple picks up in the draft.
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Apr 24, 2012 11:32am
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1151524 wrote:Well if we're being offered a bigger package than last year and still remaining inside the top 10, I would say that we should take it and continue to wheel and deal to move multiple picks up in the draft.
I don't think that will necessarily be the case but I'm getting the feeling they will trade down if they take Lamar Miller in the 2nd.
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Apr 24, 2012 11:42am
OneBuckeye;1151349 wrote:Good. I like Jenkins at 37 if he is till there. He is a Pac Man Jones Knucklehead, but Pac man had a few productive years, I think he has the most upside of any of the CBs in the draft.

Maybe Antonio Cromartie would be a good comparison too. Jenkins already has 4 kids with 3 different women.
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Apr 24, 2012 12:10pm
The 4th pick is going to be blackmon. book it!
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Apr 24, 2012 12:14pm
This is my opinion, but if Richardson wasn't the best RB prospect I've seen in my time alive I'd be fine with trading down. I know the league de-values running backs, but there's too big of a gap between Richardson and the RBs below him compared to the gap between Blackmon and WRs below him.

I absolutely do not want another team, especially a team picking in the late teens meaning they already have something decently solid in place to get Richardson.
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Apr 24, 2012 12:14pm
DeyDurkie5;1151600 wrote:The 4th pick is going to be blackmon. book it!

Six to midnight.

but I doubt it
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Apr 24, 2012 12:15pm
killer_ewok;1151546 wrote:Maybe Antonio Cromartie would be a good comparison too. Jenkins already has 4 kids with 3 different women.
LOL

I think Jenkins is a better cover corner than Cromartie and think his character concerns would be less worrisome playing alongside his buddy Haden.
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Apr 24, 2012 12:17pm
DeyDurkie5;1151600 wrote:The 4th pick is going to be blackmon. book it!
Be careful what you wish for because if this happens I'd be pretty certain that they'd be going after Weeden too.
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Apr 24, 2012 12:18pm
OneBuckeye;1151349 wrote:Good. I like Jenkins at 37 if he is till there. He is a Pac Man Jones Knucklehead, but Pac man had a few productive years, I think he has the most upside of any of the CBs in the draft.
I'll pass on Jenkins. If the Browns were a good team, then it would be worth taking a shot on a troubled player, but we can't afford, imo, to take a player that is so unpredictable.
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Apr 24, 2012 12:20pm
wes_mantooth;1151607 wrote:Six to midnight.

but I doubt it
It's going to happen.
BR1986FB;1151611 wrote:Be careful what you wish for because if this happens I'd be pretty certain that they'd be going after Weeden too.
I don't think they will. Blackmon, RT/RB with the 2nd first round pick. If Weeden falls to their 2nd round pick, then maybe I could see that.