ytownfootball
Posts: 6,978
Apr 23, 2012 6:23am
I'm skeptical of Weeden's numbers as they came primarily from notoriously hideous Big 12 competition (defenses) anyway...
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 23, 2012 7:35am
Then you can't compare them...like_that;1150440 wrote:I don't recall Weeden playing in the NFL yet...
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 23, 2012 8:11am
Grading Heckert's trades...
http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x787564425/Trader-Toms-draft-week-dozen-grading-Heckerts-deals
Grossi Mock 4.0....
http://www.espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=954
http://www.cantonrep.com/browns/x787564425/Trader-Toms-draft-week-dozen-grading-Heckerts-deals
Grossi Mock 4.0....
http://www.espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=954
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 23, 2012 8:21am
That article missed Chris Gocong in the eagles trade. SMH, journalism at its best. Nice fail Steve Doerschuk
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 23, 2012 8:28am
Dr. KnOiTaLL;1150244 wrote:Brandon Weeden - QB - Player
After speaking with NFL executives, The Sideline View's Adam Caplan gets the "sense" that the Browns will target Oklahoma State QB Brandon Weeden at No. 37 rather than No. 22 overall.
Caplan confirms Cleveland has "spent a lot of time" on Weeden, including an April 2 visit to club headquarters. There is little doubt that the Browns are interested in drafting him, but it doesn't sound like they've deemed Weeden worthy of a first-round pick. Look for the Browns to select Trent Richardson at No. 4, the best receiver available at No. 22, and perhaps Weeden at 37.
Related: Browns
Thank goodness we're not using one of our top 2 picks at least. Close your eyes, guys, I know some of you hate any mention of his name.
You'll like this....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cbUb2_WEk_U
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 23, 2012 8:41am
Reasons NOT to take any of the top prospects (Luck, RGIII, Kalil, etc)....
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7829465/the-case-andrew-luck-robert-griffin-rest-year-top-nfl-draft-prospects
http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/7829465/the-case-andrew-luck-robert-griffin-rest-year-top-nfl-draft-prospects
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 23, 2012 8:45am
That was actually pretty cool.
Iliketurtles
Posts: 8,191
Apr 23, 2012 8:57am
Haha I read that on Friday last week. Still pretty funny. Klosterman is a pretty good writer I enjoy reading his stuff on Grantland.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 23, 2012 9:23am
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Apr 23, 2012 9:29am
Does he have nfl game speed or mountain west game speed? I could care less what his RB coach thinks he is.
IggyPride00
Posts: 6,482
Apr 23, 2012 9:45am
If the Browns came away from this draft with T-Rich/receiver at 22/ and Weeden (anywhere) there would be a palpable sense of excitement and enthusiasm heading into this season in this city that just does not exist right now. That is worth alot, and may turn the tide on people's feelings about this regime and whether they care.
Getting a QB/Wr/RB who can start Day 1 in the draft would show a sense of urgency that most have been looking for for a while now.
Getting a QB/Wr/RB who can start Day 1 in the draft would show a sense of urgency that most have been looking for for a while now.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 23, 2012 10:11am
I don't want Weeden. Why waste a good pick on a mediocre at best QB? I'd much rather burn a 5th or 6th rounder on a guy like Russell Wilson then waste a first or second on a similar QB.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Apr 23, 2012 10:12am
I'm pretty much set that I want T-rich at 4 and then a WR with #22. Then with #37 either get a CB or an OL.
Assuming of course we don't trade the 4 and trade rape a team. I'd be willing to do that as well.
Assuming of course we don't trade the 4 and trade rape a team. I'd be willing to do that as well.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Apr 23, 2012 10:14am
IggyPride00;1150506 wrote:If the Browns came away from this draft with T-Rich/receiver at 22/ and Weeden (anywhere) there would be a palpable sense of excitement and enthusiasm heading into this season in this city that just does not exist right now. That is worth alot, and may turn the tide on people's feelings about this regime and whether they care.
Getting a QB/Wr/RB who can start Day 1 in the draft would show a sense of urgency that most have been looking for for a while now.
Amen
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 23, 2012 10:20am
+1sleeper;1150538 wrote:I don't want Weeden. Why waste a good pick on a mediocre at best QB?
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 23, 2012 10:49am
They showed on ESPN the 30 some QBs taken in the 1st round since 1999 and Polian graded only 10 of them a B or better (he said Bradford and the others drafted most recently are incomplete).
He basically used those numbers to state how much teams overvalue QBs in the 1st round. To be fair, he also said QBs nowadays are much more prepared for the NFL than they used to be, but my point is drafting Tannehill in the top 10 or Weeden in the 1st round would be overvaluing them.
He basically used those numbers to state how much teams overvalue QBs in the 1st round. To be fair, he also said QBs nowadays are much more prepared for the NFL than they used to be, but my point is drafting Tannehill in the top 10 or Weeden in the 1st round would be overvaluing them.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 23, 2012 11:00am
My fear is that Tannehill slides and they take him at 22. I don't want him, period.lhslep134;1150593 wrote:They showed on ESPN the 30 some QBs taken in the 1st round since 1999 and Polian graded only 10 of them a B or better (he said Bradford and the others drafted most recently are incomplete).
He basically used those numbers to state how much teams overvalue QBs in the 1st round. To be fair, he also said QBs nowadays are much more prepared for the NFL than they used to be, but my point is drafting Tannehill in the top 10 or Weeden in the 1st round would be overvaluing them.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Apr 23, 2012 11:21am
BR1986FB;1150605 wrote:My fear is that Tannehill slides and they take him at 22. I don't want him, period.
He's a dolphin at 8
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 23, 2012 11:34am
I hope so. If they are drafting a QB I want him to see the field immediately and I think Tannehill would have to sit at least a year.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Apr 23, 2012 11:40am
I would agree with this. Though if we get Tannehill at #22 and he sits all year while McCoy plays himself out of a job and Tannehill comes in the following season and is a good QB for the Browns for years to come, it would be hard to say it was a bad pick.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Apr 23, 2012 12:17pm
Especially if Heckert finds playmakers in 2nd 3rd 4th rounds. That being said, I'm still not sold on Tannehill being a franchise QB.Commander of Awesome;1150652 wrote:Tannehill comes in the following season and is a good QB for the Browns for years to come, it would be hard to say it was a bad pick.
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Apr 23, 2012 12:25pm
T-minus 3 1/2 days and counting
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 23, 2012 1:55pm
+1 but they do need receivers.lhslep134;1150680 wrote:That being said, I'm still not sold on Tannehill being a franchise QB.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Apr 23, 2012 2:16pm
The same sort of excitement the city was feeling when they moved up to get brady quinn?IggyPride00;1150506 wrote:If the Browns came away from this draft with T-Rich/receiver at 22/ and Weeden (anywhere) there would be a palpable sense of excitement and enthusiasm heading into this season in this city that just does not exist right now. That is worth alot, and may turn the tide on people's feelings about this regime and whether they care.
Getting a QB/Wr/RB who can start Day 1 in the draft would show a sense of urgency that most have been looking for for a while now.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Apr 23, 2012 2:19pm
Not major news but at least he sacked up and took responsibility...
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2012/04/23/cribbs-cited-for-speeding-friday-night/#.T5WK2EDUR68.facebook
http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2012/04/23/cribbs-cited-for-speeding-friday-night/#.T5WK2EDUR68.facebook