2012 Cleveland Browns thread: AKA Pat Shurmur Memorial thread

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Apr 11, 2012 6:02pm
wes_mantooth;1141908 wrote:I am def warming up to Richardson at 4 as long as we either move up or get a wr at 22.
I hate RBs that high, but I guess I could warm up to trich at 4 if the next 2 picks are WR/OL. If they throw Weeden or Tannehill in there I will be pretty pissed.
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Apr 11, 2012 6:07pm
like_that;1141911 wrote:I hate RBs that high, but I guess I could warm up to trich at 4 if the next 2 picks are WR/OL. If they throw Weeden or Tannehill in there I will be pretty pissed.
Yeah, that is where I am. I would love to see the best right tackle available at 37.
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Apr 11, 2012 6:08pm
Trich that high doesn't bother me because he's going to be a sure thing. It's very hard to find that "sure thing" that high. At least Richardson will give us offensive playmaking ability that we know will come. Something that just isn't guaranteed with the other offensive players at that pick.
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Apr 11, 2012 6:09pm
DeyDurkie5;1141915 wrote:Trich that high doesn't bother me because he's going to be a sure thing. It's very hard to find that "sure thing" that high. At least Richardson will give us offensive playmaking ability that we know will come. Something that just isn't guaranteed with the other offensive players at that pick.
Nobody is a sure thing.
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Apr 11, 2012 6:25pm
like_that;1141916 wrote:Nobody is a sure thing.

I would disagree with you. Barring injury, Trich is a sure thing.
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Apr 11, 2012 6:35pm
DeyDurkie5;1141922 wrote:I would disagree with you. Barring injury, Trich is a sure thing.
No way you can prove that. Plenty of guys were considered a "sure thing" heading into the draft, and they ended up shitting down their legs.
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Apr 11, 2012 6:43pm
jpake1;1141904 wrote:If I'm the Browns I take Richardson and don't think twice about it. Tannehill isn't even a thought. He hasn't done jack to warrant that high of a pick. He's the type of player that gets people fired. I stay away from Claiborne as well. I'd NEVER take a CB that high. I also have concerns about him. Good player, I just don't know how good he is when he isn't playing along side another stud. Certainly a first rounder, I just highly question the value in terms of being a top 5, or even top 10.
Well then the Browns wouldn't have anything to worry about.
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Apr 11, 2012 7:27pm
like_that;1141926 wrote:No way you can prove that. Plenty of guys were considered a "sure thing" heading into the draft, and they ended up shitting down their legs.

I know. There is no way I can prove that and I completely agree with you on that. But just based on his tape, dominating the SEC for 2 years, he's a sure thing to dominate the NFL. That's just my personal opinion.
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Apr 11, 2012 7:58pm
DeyDurkie5;1141915 wrote:Trich that high doesn't bother me because he's going to be a sure thing. It's very hard to find that "sure thing" that high. At least Richardson will give us offensive playmaking ability that we know will come. Something that just isn't guaranteed with the other offensive players at that pick.
I can somewhat agree with this. Based on the way the board is falling, its not setting up well for the Browns. I would much rather take Richardson than Tannehill or Blackmon. Normally though, I would never take a RB in the first and if I were the GM I still wouldn't this year. Much rather have Clairbone, top WR on my board at #22 (or Lavonte David), Massie to play RT and then LeMichael James as my RB. Either James falls or use some of our 13 picks to move up to get him late in the second. If we can do that for Montario fucking Hardesty, we can do it for James.
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Apr 11, 2012 8:00pm
FYI "hey rookie" (from last year) featuring Colt and Haden is on NFL network right now.
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Apr 11, 2012 8:02pm
It also features Mardy Gilyard who has been cut by 2 teams since.
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Apr 11, 2012 8:06pm
OneBuckeye;1142011 wrote:It also features Mardy Gilyard who has been cut by 2 teams since.


I thought he was a great pick by the Pats too. I just SMH at some of the WRs that I thought would be decent in the NFL; Limas Sweed, Crabbtree, Edwards, Robo (SMFH again).
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Apr 11, 2012 8:09pm
Mary Kay Cabot ‏ @MaryKayCabot One prospect the #Browns have zero interest in: freefalling Arizona State LB Vontaze Burfict.
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Apr 11, 2012 8:10pm
Commander of Awesome;1142015 wrote:I thought he was a great pick by the Pats too.

St. Louis RamsGilyard was drafted with the 1st pick in the 4th round (99th overall) by the St. Louis Rams in the 2010 NFL Draft.[SUP][5][/SUP] On June 28, 2010, Gilyard signed a four-year $2.32 million contract with a signing bonus of $552,000.
He was released in the final cutdown after the fourth preseason game in the 2011 preseason.
[h=3][edit] New York Jets[/h]The New York Jets claimed Gilyard off waivers on September 4, 2011.[SUP][6][/SUP] However, he was waived by the Jets on September 9.[SUP][7][/SUP]
[h=3][edit] Philadelphia Eagles[/h]Gilyard worked out for the Philadelphia Eagles in September 2011 and met with the team again on January 5, 2012.[SUP][8][/SUP] He was signed to a futures contract the following day.
From his wiki. I thought he was a good pick in the fourth round.
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Apr 11, 2012 8:40pm
Commander of Awesome;1142015 wrote:I thought he was a great pick by the Pats too. I just SMH at some of the WRs that I thought would be decent in the NFL; Limas Sweed, Crabbtree, Edwards, Robo (SMFH again).
I really thought Sweed would be legit. Great size and speed...you just never know
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Apr 11, 2012 8:40pm
Commander of Awesome;1142015 wrote:I thought he was a great pick by the Pats too. I just SMH at some of the WRs that I thought would be decent in the NFL; Limas Sweed, Crabbtree, Edwards, Robo (SMFH again).
I really thought Sweed would be legit. Great size and speed...you just never know
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Apr 11, 2012 9:49pm
wes_mantooth;1142034 wrote:I really thought Sweed would be legit. Great size and speed...you just never know
I have heard that before.
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Apr 11, 2012 9:53pm
My dream scenario would involve us getting Trent and Floyd.
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Apr 11, 2012 9:55pm
hoops23;1142109 wrote:My dream scenario would involve us getting Trent and Floyd.
Agree. I think that would be everyone's dream scenario
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Apr 11, 2012 10:07pm
Major 6 to midnight on that
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Apr 11, 2012 10:08pm
hoops23;1142138 wrote:Major 6 to midnight on that
I'd boner. But then again, when we landed Joe thomas, and Brady Quinn in the first round, I ran around my dorms screaming "championship, championship bitches!!!"
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Apr 11, 2012 11:36pm
hoops23;1142109 wrote:My dream scenario would involve us getting Trent and Floyd.
Absolutely! Too bad it's very unlikely... :(
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Apr 12, 2012 12:44am
I'd trade 22 for a 1st next year then bundle to move up so I have another pick close to 37 and get a nice rt, cb, or wr with those two. It'd be nice to have another 1st next year for Barkley if you need to move up a couple spots.
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Apr 12, 2012 7:04am
DeyDurkie5;1142117 wrote:Agree. I think that would be everyone's dream scenario
My dream scenario is Claiborne, LaVvonte David, then either Wright, Randle, Hill in the second (one will fall), trade back into the second (perhaps a trade back to #6) and get Massie, then pray and hope LeMichael James falls into the 3rd.