Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 28, 2012 10:30pm
Why?
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 28, 2012 10:33pm
Why to what?Commander of Awesome;1130542 wrote:Why?
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 28, 2012 10:35pm
You are so retardedCommander of Awesome;1130526 wrote:Obviously hit a nerve with tubby, apologies.
Braylon had one good season, and is twice the athlete Blackmon is. My issue is that Blackmon reminds me of, IE very similar college game to Michael Crabbtree. Put up great stats, etc...can't produce at same level in NFL. He lacks any elite tools to make him worth the #4 overall pick in the draft. You draft a WR that high he needs to be AJ Green/Calvin Johnson IMO. Crabbtree's production hasn't even warranted a first round pick let alone top 10.
Sorry I'll be sure to spell everything out for you in the future so your feelings don't get hurt and you get up in arms over my opinion. I don't want to get called "faggy" again, really hurt my feelz.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 28, 2012 10:37pm
Why do you think Blackmon will be a beast and the comparison to Crabbs is ridiculous?DeyDurkie5;1130547 wrote:Why to what?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 28, 2012 10:38pm
DeyDurkie5;1130539 wrote:Blackmon is goin to be a beast in the NFL. Comparing him to Crabtree and then basically saying he will be like Crabtree is just retarded.
Its like I'm reading the same account!SportsAndLady;1130551 wrote:You are so retarded
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Mar 28, 2012 10:41pm
Hasnt Crabtree battled injuries, hence the reason his stats are nothing spectacular?
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Mar 28, 2012 10:43pm
He played in 16 games in 2010, managed 55 catches for 741 yds. 15 games this last season for 72 catches 872 yds.Pick6;1130562 wrote:Hasnt Crabtree battled injuries, hence the reason his stats are nothing spectacular?
DeyDurkie5
Posts: 11,324
Mar 28, 2012 10:49pm
Well I'm not normally a stats guy. I like seeing the product on the field and making my assumptions from there. He's a gamer for one. Each game he played in, he dominated. And the bigger the stage got, the bigger he performed. Two, he passes hte eye test. You watch him play, and you can throw out the 40 time. He makes cuts, and gets seperation. The whole 40 time, each year, is brought up in the draft, and people make a huge deal about it. Then someone who ran a 4.6 dominates the league and then all of a sudden the analysts/scouts/etc. start saying the 40 is not that important. It's just a circle of bullshit.Commander of Awesome;1130555 wrote:Why do you think Blackmon will be a beast and the comparison to Crabbs is ridiculous?
Also, if you want to add in stats, like you do so many times...
Blackmon's last two years..
2011-
| 121catches | 1522yds | 12.6percatch | 18 | tds |
| 111catches | 1782yds | 16.1percatch | 20 | tds |
Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Mar 28, 2012 10:59pm
Blackmon is the exact same build that Crabtree is. I honestly want nothing to do with him either. I think he will be a solid receiver but not top 5 worthy. I think Floyd, barring injuries, will be the best receiver in this draft.
Classyposter58
Posts: 6,321
Mar 28, 2012 11:07pm
Crabtree has only been in the league for 3 years and could still be pretty good. I'd say though Crabtree is kinda lazy in games compared to Blackmon who goes all out every play. It doesn't help Crabtree though that he's in a horrible offense for receiversCrimson streak;1130575 wrote:Blackmon is the exact same build that Crabtree is. I honestly want nothing to do with him either. I think he will be a solid receiver but not top 5 worthy. I think Floyd, barring injuries, will be the best receiver in this draft.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Mar 28, 2012 11:13pm
He missed the whole preseason last year. Who knows how much that impacted anything.Pick6;1130562 wrote:Hasnt Crabtree battled injuries, hence the reason his stats are nothing spectacular?
His reception totals and yards have gone up pretty significantly every season in one of the worst passing offenses in the league. I think he's a solid 70-80 catch, 1000+ yard guy if he stays healthy.
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OhioStatePride2003
Posts: 686
Mar 28, 2012 11:34pm
Look at who he's had throwing to him too. Alex Smith isn't exactly Tom Brady... I think Crabtree is overrated, but I think the offense they run in San Francisco, and the QB, have just a little to do with it.Classyposter58;1130580 wrote:Crabtree has only been in the league for 3 years and could still be pretty good. I'd say though Crabtree is kinda lazy in games compared to Blackmon who goes all out every play. It doesn't help Crabtree though that he's in a horrible offense for receivers
Classyposter58
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Mar 29, 2012 1:20am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGfLFmlU8zo
:laugh: Just great
:laugh: Just great
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Mar 29, 2012 1:32am
It goes beyond that. Blackmon wants to catch every ball and completely dominate the competition and he has the competitive drive to get it done along with the WR traits necessary to do it. The stats and the highlights back it up.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Mar 29, 2012 5:28am
Also might have something to do with the fact that Minny hasn't had a good QB since Favre went off in 2009. AP had almost 1400 yards and 18 TD's in that timeframe. The quality QB was the reason for their success.like_that;1130510 wrote: AP is great, but look where Minny is at with him now. He might miss part of the season, and even when he is back, how effective will he be? He has been the best RB in the game, yet minnesota has had 2 losing seasons in a row with him now.
For those that are rooting for Lil Colt to prosper and make it as a QB, you'd better HOPE that Richardson is the first pick and they grab a quality TE with either 22 or 37 because THOSE two things along with a RT, NOT Blackmon are what will help make him successful, which I'm still certain WON'T happen. With as much as he checks down/ throws short, those two type players will be his safety valves/life savers, NOT Blackmon.
And believe me, this is coming from someone who thinks you can be successful running by committee.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Mar 29, 2012 7:30am
Too bad Colt McCoy isn't anywhere in the league of Aaron Rodgers,Drew Brees or Tom Brady. LOL good comparison fail.SportsAndLady;1130503 wrote:Who cares how good Trent is..or how much impact he'd have this year...AP could be their at #4, and I'd pass on him. RB's are worthless in the NFL. YOu can plug in anybody in an offense with a good passing game, and they'll succeed.
Packers-Grant, Saine, Starks
Patriots-Green-Ellis, Ridley, Woodhead
Saints-Thomas, Ivory, Sproles, Ingram
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Mar 29, 2012 8:08am
you forgot tebow :thumbup:Skyhook79;1130653 wrote:Too bad Colt McCoy isn't anywhere in the league of Aaron Rodgers,Drew Brees or Tom Brady. LOL good comparison fail.
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 29, 2012 8:18am
You're trying too hard old manSkyhook79;1130653 wrote:Too bad Colt McCoy isn't anywhere in the league of Aaron Rodgers,Drew Brees or Tom Brady. LOL good comparison fail.
I am not comparing McCoy to Rodgers/Brees/Brady (LOL @ even thinking that?)...just that if the Browns get a highly proficient passing offense in place, the running backs will produce no matter who they are.
shook_17
Posts: 3,023
Mar 29, 2012 8:24am
This.SportsAndLady;1130681 wrote:You're trying too hard old man
I am not comparing McCoy to Rodgers/Brees/Brady (LOL @ even thinking that?)...just that if the Browns get a highly proficient passing offense in place, the running backs will produce no matter who they are.
Our running back production would be so much higher if A. We had a qb that scared the defense B. If the defenses weren't stacking the box with 8 defenders C. If our team had some weapons that defenses were afraid of.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Mar 29, 2012 8:25am
Who is the current QB for the Browns that is going to lead this proficient passing offense and running backs do not produce no matter who they are. Maurice Jones Drew,Steven Jackson and Chris Johnson produced despite their awful passing games. You used 3 teams with the 3 best QB's in the league as an example.SportsAndLady;1130681 wrote:You're trying too hard old man
I am not comparing McCoy to Rodgers/Brees/Brady (LOL @ even thinking that?)...just that if the Browns get a highly proficient passing offense in place, the running backs will produce no matter who they are.
That is a fail.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Mar 29, 2012 8:27am
Denver lead the league in rushing were the defense's scared of the Denver passing game?shook_17;1130683 wrote:This.
Our running back production would be so much higher if A. We had a qb that scared the defense B. If the defenses weren't stacking the box with 8 defenders C. If our team had some weapons that defenses were afraid of.
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 29, 2012 8:32am
led*Skyhook79;1130685 wrote:Denver lead the league in rushing were the defense's scared of the Denver passing game?
rushing.*
defenses*
SportsAndLady
Posts: 35,632
Mar 29, 2012 8:33am
Again, trying wayyyy too hard.Skyhook79;1130684 wrote:Who is the current QB for the Browns that is going to lead this proficient passing offense and running backs do not produce no matter who they are. Maurice Jones Drew,Steven Jackson and Chris Johnson produced despite their awful passing games. You used 3 teams with the 3 best QB's in the league as an example.
That is a fail.
I don't know who this stud QB is going to be...that's irrelevant. I'm simply saying IF they get that QB in place, and have weapons at receivers, you don't need an MJD, S-Jax, or CJ to be successful. Those 3 RB's are all on pretty bad teams, that should tell you how important a stud RB is in the NFL.
I used those 3 QBs because they prove my point...wtf are you talking about? I could have named the Lions' RB's, the Chargers' RB's, etc.
SportsAndLady
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Mar 29, 2012 8:35am
Skyhook79;1130685 wrote:Denver lead the league in rushing were the defense's scared of the Denver passing game?
like_that
Posts: 26,625
Mar 29, 2012 8:37am
He is a dipshit. Either he is dumb as hell and takes everything we say literally or he is just desperate to troll.SportsAndLady;1130688 wrote:Again, trying wayyyy too hard.
I don't know who this stud QB is going to be...that's irrelevant. I'm simply saying IF they get that QB in place, and have weapons at receivers, you don't need an MJD, S-Jax, or CJ to be successful. Those 3 RB's are all on pretty bad teams, that should tell you how important a stud RB is in the NFL.
I used those 3 QBs because they prove my point...wtf are you talking about? I could have named the Lions' RB's, the Chargers' RB's, etc.