like_that;1139756 wrote:Stop gaps are not worth a top 2 pick at all, especially when it isn't even close to a forgone conclusion that he will be productive.

like_that;1139753 wrote:I don't either, in fact I don't think many fans here see him being that good, but we sure as hell don't want to see an idiotic pick such as Tannehill or Weeden. I don't understand why you can't comprehend that. I'd much rather watch McCoy on a ****ty offense for another seasons than watch us waste a pick on a 29 y/o QB and watch what will also be a ****ty offense. You are getting way too infatuated with his college stats. If college stats were any indicator than Danny Weurfel, Jason White, Matt Leinart, Akilli Smith, Chris Weinke, that Hawaii QB, etc would have been stars in the NFL.

I'd much rather take Kellen Moore in the later rounds than Tannefail or Weeden in the earlier rounds. At least with Moore if he sucks we can put him on the bench and he can learn from watching. WTF do we do with Weeden if he turns out to suck ass? Put our 29 year old QB on the bench so he can watch for a few years? LMAO.

shook_17;1139762 wrote:well thats where we differ. i think he is going to be a good qb. thats why im sticking up for him. and i only brought up his college stats because hoops compared weeden to DA which was just idiotic.

and it wouldn't be different from any other qb we have drafted and played since 99 cut him.

like_that;1139763 wrote:That logic sucks too. "Oh we drafted some ****ty QBs in the past, so what the **** is another one if he turns out to suck ass?"

shook_17;1139767 wrote:im obviously being sarcastic. damn man. the whole draft is a "what if" crap shoot. what if RGIII and Luck suck ass.

shook_17;1139762 wrote:well thats where we differ. i think he is going to be a good qb. thats why im sticking up for him. and i only brought up his college stats because hoops compared weeden to DA which was just idiotic.

and it wouldn't be different from any other qb we have drafted and played since 99 cut him.

like_that;1139768 wrote:They have more of a chance of being successful than Weeden and Tannehill thats for sure. I still wouldn't have given up 3 first rd picks for RG3 though mainly for that reason. The point of the draft is to make the most educated guesses with your picks, not go into it with a "what the hell, why not" crap shoot approach.

like_that;1139773 wrote:The draft can't come soon enough, or at least some Browns related news needs to come around this week. This talk about Weeden is ridiculous. I can't believe we dedicated this many pages on discussing him smh.

Aren't players allowed to work out at facilities now? Any word on Cleveland guys working hard in Cleveland, or some ****?

like_that;1139756 wrote:Stop gaps are not worth a top 2 pick at all, especially when it isn't even close to a forgone conclusion that he will be productive.

wes_mantooth;1139780 wrote:You don't draft stop gaps...period. You sign a veteran if you are looking for a stop gap to get you to your future...I.E. Matt Hasselbeck

wes_mantooth;1139780 wrote:You don't draft stop gaps...period. You sign a veteran if you are looking for a stop gap to get you to your future...I.E. Matt Hasselbeck

buckeyes_woowee;1139827 wrote:I can't wait to see you all eat crow on Weeden. I will be the first to admit I was wrong but I think Weeden will make a big impact for a team. I think he will be a better pro QB than RGIII.

OneBuckeye;1139888 wrote:Any watch the Gruden QB camps? I was impressed with Luck. Not so much with Weeden. I missed RGIII. If Gruden does a good job of showing the "football" smarts in his thirty minute shows I would stay away from Weeden.

like_that;1139892 wrote:Well, as much as I don't want Weeden, I will be fair. Last year he made Cam Newton look like an idiot who doesn't know shit, and last season worked out for Cam.

OneBuckeye;1139896 wrote:Weeden was like... I just throw it to the hot route. Or he drew up a play where he read the Will LB and threw it down the seam if he was off the WR or handed it off otherwise and they just repeated that play over and over to beat Baylor.

shook_17;1139905 wrote:^ bullshit