Just throwing it out there ... Can OSU be the "AP champ" in 2012?

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Dec 23, 2011 7:31 PM
ccrunner609;1025388 wrote:Stfu.....if they run the table they will be #1 if everyone else has a loss

The AP will penalize OSU no matter what. Of course we know gow good you are with predictions
Dec 23, 2011 7:31pm
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Dec 23, 2011 10:35 PM
ccrunner609;1025464 wrote:I dont think they will have that midset......If a team from a major conference is undefeated and all others arent they will be #1
I would agree with this too. The fact that the AP is the only poll that even allows penalized teams to be ranked shows how they generally feel about teams in that situation. Hell, USC even got up to 10 this year with 2 losses.

If they go 12-0, they will be up there in the AP (though if there are other undefeateds, THEN I could see them ranking those ones ahead of OSU). Otherwise, they will drop them fast.
Dec 23, 2011 10:35pm
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Dec 23, 2011 10:53 PM
Tobias Fünke;1025430 wrote: It's not a "most likely," there is simply no way that the 2012 team gets close to the 2003 USC team. There is no way. I'm going to be very interested in how the offense works, we saw what his Florida teams were like post-Percy Harvin. I think the world of Urban Meyer, but I question the strength of the receiving corp (I do think Stoneburner is one of the best in the country). Simply put, without stretching the field vertically can the offense really take off next year? I'm not a doubter, but perhaps just not a sold believer in it yet. He needs some elite speed on the edges in my opinion. When that happens he will probably blow the lid off of the Big Ten, as expected.
I feel Corey Brown can stretch the field vertically.
Dec 23, 2011 10:53pm
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Dec 23, 2011 11:03 PM
Pick6;1025541 wrote:I feel Corey Brown can stretch the field vertically.
We shall see, he is very fast. He's no Percy though.
Dec 23, 2011 11:03pm
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Dec 24, 2011 12:02 AM
Ohio State won't be undefeated next year. But they will be better than Notre Dame and Michigan and you can take that to the bank.
Dec 24, 2011 12:02am
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Dec 24, 2011 12:16 AM
I do think it's possible, however, they might be hurt by some AP voters who will refuse to even rank OSU. Given that their ranking will simply be a number that will have no influence on how people perceive a national championship eligible team, if there are any biased voters against OSU, next year will be the year the votes reflect that bias.

I could see them going 12-0 and being in the top 5, but will lose steam to make it to #1 because people simply won't want to see it.
Dec 24, 2011 12:16am
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Dec 24, 2011 12:50 AM
merv;1025417 wrote:No. 6-7 to 12-0. LOL.
7-5 to 14-0

LOL
Dec 24, 2011 12:50am
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Dec 24, 2011 2:14 AM
Heretic;1025266 wrote:Apparently someone's capable of doing basic math today. Fuckin' smarty pantses and their counting.
I guesstimated that shit.

Admittedly, if it came out to be something like 47 I would have been pissed off.
Dec 24, 2011 2:14am
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Dec 24, 2011 8:10 AM
If it does happen, I hope the OSU fans who said USC's AP national title didn't count because the BCS title game crowns the national champ remain consistent and apply the same logic they did several years ago.
Dec 24, 2011 8:10am
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Dec 24, 2011 8:27 AM
killer_ewok;1025645 wrote:If it does happen, I hope the OSU fans who said USC's AP national title didn't count because the BCS title game crowns the national champ remain consistent and apply the same logic they did several years ago.
Eh...it's the AP and irrelevant, not interested in paper titles.
Dec 24, 2011 8:27am
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Dec 24, 2011 8:55 AM
killer_ewok;1025645 wrote:If it does happen, I hope the OSU fans who said USC's AP national title didn't count because the BCS title game crowns the national champ remain consistent and apply the same logic they did several years ago.
if ohio state's football coach kills a student, i hope they use the same logic notre dame did and sweep it under the rug
Dec 24, 2011 8:55am
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Dec 24, 2011 9:20 AM
ytownfootball;1025652 wrote:Eh...it's the AP and irrelevant, not interested in paper titles.

That's fine. Honestly, it's about consistency. If a Buckeye fan said USC's was valid back then and claimed OSU's next year....I would be fine with it.
Dec 24, 2011 9:20am
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Dec 24, 2011 9:23 AM
killer_ewok;1025668 wrote:That's fine. Honestly, it's about consistency. If a Buckeye fan said USC's was valid back then and claimed OSU's next year....I would be fine with it.
LOL I'm glad we would have your approval
Dec 24, 2011 9:23am
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Dec 24, 2011 9:24 AM
DeyDurkie5;1025661 wrote:if ohio state's football coach kills a student, i hope they use the same logic notre dame did and sweep it under the rug

Good one.
Dec 24, 2011 9:24am
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Dec 24, 2011 9:28 AM
DeyDurkie5;1025661 wrote:if ohio state's football coach kills a student, i hope they use the same logic notre dame did and sweep it under the rug
I miss your signature. :(
Dec 24, 2011 9:28am
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Dec 24, 2011 9:31 AM
Tobias Fünke;1025677 wrote:I miss your signature. :(
i kept the avatar :)
Dec 24, 2011 9:31am
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Dec 24, 2011 12:08 PM
Not totally unrealistic that OSU could go undefeated next year...the big 10 is just not that great of a conference. Too bad its too late to schedule an LSU or Alabama next year since there is really nothing for us to lose if we got beat.
Dec 24, 2011 12:08pm
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Dec 24, 2011 3:06 PM
ccrunner609;1025725 wrote:then they become less relevant then they already are. The AP needs to vote a undefeated OSU team #1 to stay relevant.
You know the AP withdrew from the BCS, they were not kicked out. Coaches Poll <<<<<<<<<< AP Poll.
Dec 24, 2011 3:06pm
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Dec 24, 2011 11:39 PM
Dude, the AP is what it is. They are ALWAYS relevant. That relevancy goes much further than college football. They don't NEED to vote anyone a certain way to stay relevant. That's one of the dumbest arguments I've seen to prove this point. There are others that are plausible, but to say the AP will simply vote a certain way to stay relevant (I guess by creating controversy) is just stupid.
Dec 24, 2011 11:39pm
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Dec 24, 2011 11:58 PM
Meyer says next year's team will be working out, practicing, preparing to beat every team on their schedule next year by 100 points.
Dec 24, 2011 11:58pm
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Dec 26, 2011 12:50 PM
Tobias Fünke;1025430 wrote: Illegal recruiting techniques? Such as?
Allowing boosters to give players' families homes. There is no doubt in my mind that USC knew about this.
Pick6;1025541 wrote:I feel Corey Brown can stretch the field vertically.
Will he be able to catch the ball though?
killer_ewok;1025645 wrote:If it does happen, I hope the OSU fans who said USC's AP national title didn't count because the BCS title game crowns the national champ remain consistent and apply the same logic they did several years ago.
I don't put much into an AP title, but a BCS title isn't much better. I'd recognize a BCS title over an AP though.
Dec 26, 2011 12:50pm
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Dec 28, 2011 1:21 AM
dwccrew;1027352 wrote:Allowing boosters to give players' families homes. There is no doubt in my mind that USC knew about this.
Link to anyone not named Reggie Bush?

Leinart? I dont think anything came from that.
Dec 28, 2011 1:21am
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Dec 28, 2011 9:58 AM
sleeper;1025584 wrote:Ohio State won't be undefeated next year.
Who hacked into sleeper's account?
Dec 28, 2011 9:58am