OK, I get it, OSU has a bowl ban, thus has no chance at a BCS title. What if they run the table convincingly, and the BCS champ has one loss? Can they still be the "AP Champ?" (similar to USC in 2003-2004)

Doubtful. With 49 states that aren't called Ohio believing the sanctions were too lenient, they'll not be thought of highly in any regard.

I don't see them getting above 15th in the AP no matter what they do.

I'd rather they use next year to build depth and develop young players anyway.

Possible? Yes, technically. But the 2004 USC team was lightyears better than the 2012 Ohio State team will be.

Tobias Fünke;1025003 wrote:Possible? Yes, technically. But the 2004 USC team was lightyears better than the 2012 Ohio State team will be.

Wow--can you also tell me what the lottery numbers will be for for next week's drawing?

They can have the resume to win it, but as mentioned previously, there's no way the voters will allow it.

I think they'll do good.

Possible yes? And it would take a lot for it to happen. Every other team would need to lose at least 1 game. And OSU would have to beat 4-5 top 20 teams pretty convincingly. It wouldn't hurt if 1 or 2 of those wins would be against top 10 ranked teams.

vball10set;1025063 wrote:Wow--can you also tell me what the lottery numbers will be for for next week's drawing?

I don't think that was a bold claim. That 2003 USC team was pretty incredible. Not saying OSU couldn't go unbeaten (I don't think they will, but the schedule is favorable), but the USC team was definitely more talented than the 2012 OSU team is going to be. I believe over 50 players from the 2003 USC roster played in the NFL at some point.

Mulva;1025240 wrote:I don't think that was a bold claim. That 2003 USC team was pretty incredible. Not saying OSU couldn't go unbeaten (I don't think they will, but the schedule is favorable), but the USC team was definitely more talented than the 2012 OSU team is going to be. I believe over 50 players from the 2003 USC roster played in the NFL at some point.

Thank you, Mulva, for validating his post. My reply was in jest, playing on Toby's claim to how the 2012 "will be". Again, thank you.:rolleyes:



btw, could you please provide me with a link, or some sort of verification, on the 50+ players from that 2003 roster that played in the NFL? I'd appreciate it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_USC_Trojans_football_team

The bottom half of the article. Too hung over today to feel like counting, but there are a lot.

vball10set;1025256 wrote:Thank you, Mulva, for validating his post. My reply was in jest, playing on Toby's claim to how the 2012 "will be". Again, thank you.:rolleyes:



btw, could you please provide me with a link, or some sort of verification, on the 50+ players from that 2003 roster that played in the NFL? I'd appreciate it.

From Wikipedia...

[h=2]2003 Team Players in the NFL[/h]

• Marcell Allmond
• Kevin Arbet
• Collin Ashton
• Sam Baker
• Darnell Bing
• John David Booty
• William Buchanon
• Reggie Bush
• Dominique Byrd
• Matt Cassel
• Shaun Cody
• Keary Colbert
• Sedrick Ellis
• Matt Grootegoed
• Gregg Guenther
• Alex Holmes
• Ryan Kalil
• Norm Katnik
• Ryan Killeen
• David Kirtman
• Lawrence Jackson
• Winston Justice
• Jason Leach
• Matt Leinart
• Oscar Lua
• Tom Malone
• Fred Matua
• Chris McFoy
• Jason Mitchell
• Mike Patterson
• Will Poole
• Drew Radovich
• LaJuan Ramsey
• Jacob Rogers
• Frostee Rucker
• Dallas Sartz
• Steve Smith
• Matt Spanos
• Lofa Tatupu
• Terrell Thomas
• Kenechi Udeze
• Lenny Vandermade
• John Walker
• Chauncey Washington
• Lee Webb
• LenDale White
• Kyle Williams
• Mike Williams
• Thomas Williams
• Eric Wright
• Manuel Wright
• Justin Wyatt

52.

^^^thank you, and well done (with reps) :thumbup:

Apparently someone's capable of doing basic math today. Fuckin' smarty pantses and their counting.

Heretic;1025266 wrote:Apparently someone's capable of doing basic math today. Fuckin' smarty pantses and their counting.

lol I copied and pasted the list into Excel.

wildcats20;1025260 wrote:From Wikipedia...

There were a lot of people on that list. I didn't know that.

vball10set;1025063 wrote:Wow--can you also tell me what the lottery numbers will be for for next week's drawing?

I cannot, I usually just take ccrunner's advice and play his usual numbers.

69 69 69 69 69 x11

Tobias Fünke;1025301 wrote:I cannot, I usually just take ccrunner's advice and play his usual numbers.

69 69 69 69 69

Don't forget 11 for the kicker, assuming they still run that (age of consent in the shower room, so obviously, a very important number in his heart).

Noted.

wildcats20;1025260 wrote:From Wikipedia...

Now that is the kind of roster a good crooked recruiting budget can get you.

Tobias Fünke;1025003 wrote:Possible? Yes, technically. But the 2004 USC team was lightyears better than the 2012 Ohio State team will be.

It was the 2003 USC team, 2004 was BCS champs. They were lightyears ahead because of illegal recruiting techniques IMO. Also, the 2003 USC team that won the AP title were better than 2012 OSU most likely will be, however, the college football landscape was much better then too, IMO.

No. 6-7 to 12-0. LOL.

Enjoy your trip to the Undeserving Bowl. Stain.

Anything is possible, but I highly doubt it will happen. Curious on how big of turn around you guys have next year tho.

dwccrew;1025339 wrote:It was the 2003 USC team, 2004 was BCS champs.

My bad. Good call.

dwccrew;1025339 wrote:They were lightyears ahead because of illegal recruiting techniques IMO.

Illegal recruiting techniques? Such as?

dwccrew;1025339 wrote:Also, the 2003 USC team that won the AP title were better than 2012 OSU most likely will be, however, the college football landscape was much better then too, IMO.

It's not a "most likely," there is simply no way that the 2012 team gets close to the 2003 USC team. There is no way. I'm going to be very interested in how the offense works, we saw what his Florida teams were like post-Percy Harvin. I think the world of Urban Meyer, but I question the strength of the receiving corp (I do think Stoneburner is one of the best in the country). Simply put, without stretching the field vertically can the offense really take off next year? I'm not a doubter, but perhaps just not a sold believer in it yet. He needs some elite speed on the edges in my opinion. When that happens he will probably blow the lid off of the Big Ten, as expected.