Commander of Awesome
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 8:28am
                            
                        
                                I think any team can use AV, and I think he'd help the lakers. But I don't see what the Lakers could give up to acquire either.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                BR1986FB
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 8:38am
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                gport_tennis
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 8:48am
                            
                        
                                At first glance I'm thinking I'd rather have Austin rivers. I don't know much about the guard from Washington. Is he pretty sweet
                            
                        Wooball
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 9:01am
                            
                        I'd imagine Mike Brown would love to get AV back on his team.wildcats20;1070989 wrote:Yeah.
But then again, it wouldn't really surprise me to see a move. I don't really want AV, but Ramon might be ok.
Not quite sure why Laker fan would be enticed by Ramon Sessions. The guy doesn't play defense and doesn't like to pass. If the Cavs could get one of those 2 1st rounders I'd think Grant would be crazy not to move Sessions. As Irving matures, you are going to need less and less minutes out of your back-up point.
I wouldn't trade AV. I don't think you can get his value back. Only contending teams are going to want to trade for him, so you are going to get a pick in the mid to late 20's. He is worth more than that. Also, with some luck and a nice free agent signing or trade, the Cavs COULD be ready to make a move NEXT YEAR.
Adding another 1st round pick, even if it is in the mid 20's, would give the Cavs some serious ammunition heading into the 2012 draft. They currently have:
Their own 1st and 2nd round - They do not currently owe and picks out for future drafts
The Kings 1st round pick (highly protected through 2017, but still a tradeable asset)
The Hornets 2012 2nd round pick - could be the 1st pick in round 2
The Heat first round picks in 2013 and 2015
If they can acquire another mid to late 1st for this year, they have the bullets to fire to trade back up into the 1st half of the draft to get a 2nd player they desire. Or, they could use all their picks in this deep draft to add some young depth.
bases_loaded
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 9:22am
                            
                        
                                Acquire picks and get worse.
Win freaking win
                        Win freaking win
sleeper
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 9:48am
                            
                        
                                Cavs need to get a top 5 pick.  Any of those top 5 in that mock draft would be a huge boon to the Cavs rebuilding efforts.
                            
                        Jester
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 11:00am
                            
                        Terrence Ross: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/51075/terrence-rossgport_tennis;1071004 wrote:At first glance I'm thinking I'd rather have Austin rivers. I don't know much about the guard from Washington. Is he pretty sweet
6'6, bout 200 lbs. Averaging 15 pts and 6 rebounds on the year. Haven't seen him play, but stats seem to show he's got a good, but not great, shooter. Averaging more turnovers per game than assists per game on the year though.
nbadraft.net right now has the Cavs at 10 taking a combo forward out of Miss St.: Arnett Moultrie
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/41183/arnett-moultrie
Right now, I'd like Moultrie.
lhslep134
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 12:51pm
                            
                        
                                Watched Ross play in person on Saturday at 'Zona. He's really really good, and going to make a good pro. He's got an all around game, high motor, and good basketball IQ.
                            
                        Crimson streak
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 12:55pm
                            
                        
                                I want lamb or Barnes damnit we need to lose lol
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                dave
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 8:27pm
                            
                        
                                is Manny playing in the d league yet? Michael Thompson is lost out there.
                            
                        mucalum49
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 9:11pm
                            
                        Not only playing but averaging 18 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists. Cavs need to make a move before someone else picks him up. Mychel Thompson isn't the spark off the bench they need.dave;1071653 wrote:is Manny playing in the d league yet? Michael Thompson is lost out there.
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                                Jan 31, 2012 9:19pm
                            
                        
                                Superstar call.
                            
                        wildcats20
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 9:22pm
                            
                        
                                Get you some Kyrie.
                            
                        
                                        
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                                                                Footwedge
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 9:24pm
                            
                        
                                Dr. K in surgery mode.
                            
                        Mulva
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 9:36pm
                            
                        
                                Entertaining 4th quarter. Didn't go exactly how I thought it would, but 8-12 is right where I had this team pegged at the end of January.
Brutal 8 game stretch to start February, but 6 of them are at home so it'll be interesting to see how these guys compete.
                        Brutal 8 game stretch to start February, but 6 of them are at home so it'll be interesting to see how these guys compete.
wes_mantooth
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 9:40pm
                            
                        I predicted 8 wins by the end of march....Mulva;1071691 wrote:Entertaining 4th quarter. Didn't go exactly how I thought it would, but 8-12 is right where I had this team pegged at the end of January.
Brutal 8 game stretch to start February, but 6 of them are at home so it'll be interesting to see how these guys compete.
                                        
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                                Jan 31, 2012 9:44pm
                            
                        
                                AV hangs a 20-20 on Boston tonight.  He sucks tho.
                            
                        sleeper
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 9:48pm
                            
                        
                                I'm rooting for the Cavs to lose and for AV and Jamison to play well so we can ship each of them off for picks.  Jamison might be able to garner a late 1st, and AV could net a high pick in the draft.
If the Cavs get a top 5 pick, we are set and will be competitive very quickly.
                        If the Cavs get a top 5 pick, we are set and will be competitive very quickly.
Mulva
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 10:07pm
                            
                        It's definitely more then I would have guessed at the beginning of the season, but 8-12 is what I came up with heading into the huge road trip to start the month (with the benefit of seeing them play 5 or 6 games by that point).wes_mantooth;1071695 wrote:I predicted 8 wins by the end of march....
Before the year I predicted 18-48. I don't think the bottom is going to drop out that badly.
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                                Jan 31, 2012 10:30pm
                            
                        Nobody wants Jamison and the Cavs are not getting a top 5 pick. Not surprised you are rooting for them to lose though.sleeper;1071699 wrote:I'm rooting for the Cavs to lose and for AV and Jamison to play well so we can ship each of them off for picks. Jamison might be able to garner a late 1st, and AV could net a high pick in the draft.
If the Cavs get a top 5 pick, we are set and will be competitive very quickly.
bigdaddy2003
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 10:39pm
                            
                        Who said he sucks?Footwedge;1071696 wrote:AV hangs a 20-20 on Boston tonight. He sucks tho.
                                        
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                                Jan 31, 2012 11:36pm
                            
                        I did. Can't you read?bigdaddy2003;1071732 wrote:Who said he sucks?
Half the board wants him shipped out of here. Clueless. They need to keep this guy...have Sully declare...and then draft him.
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                                Jan 31, 2012 11:40pm
                            
                        Sorry, not all of us are fans of large market teams who can attract big name players. Some teams have to actually build through the draft.Skyhook79;1071727 wrote:Nobody wants Jamison and the Cavs are not getting a top 5 pick. Not surprised you are rooting for them to lose though.
And Im not a big fan of Jamison, but I guarantee somebody will take him.
Pick6
                                                                            
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                                Jan 31, 2012 11:46pm
                            
                        
                                And seriously, we need to get Harris out of the D-League now. I thought he showed some potential last season and he was just named D-League player of the week. Forget Mychel Thompson, and bring Harris up before he gets away. Just like Green did.
                            
                        SportsAndLady
                                                                            
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                                Feb 1, 2012 12:05am
                            
                        Footwedge;1071772 wrote:I did. Can't you read?
Half the board wants him shipped out of here. Clueless. They need to keep this guy...have Sully declare...and then draft him.
No thanks on Sully. We have Tristan Thompson at the same position..they need wing players.