Crimson streak
Posts: 9,002
Jan 30, 2012 1:42am
This team is a legit wing player away from being a solid top 4 team in the east. They also need an upgraded bench. J lamb would be a perfect fit for this team. Either him or Harrison Barnes. We need to get rid of Jameson do Thompson can get more minutes and develop.
Mulva
Posts: 13,650
Jan 30, 2012 1:49am
He's averaging 11 rebounds, not 14.
I think there's definitely an argument for him as an all-star reserve. Bargnani was the easy choice as backup, but if he misses significant time with the calf he's obviously not an option. Then add in Lopez, Horford, and Bogut being hurt (Horford and Bogut weren't putting up huge numbers to begin with) and there's just not a big pool to choose from.
I think there's definitely an argument for him as an all-star reserve. Bargnani was the easy choice as backup, but if he misses significant time with the calf he's obviously not an option. Then add in Lopez, Horford, and Bogut being hurt (Horford and Bogut weren't putting up huge numbers to begin with) and there's just not a big pool to choose from.
hoops23
Posts: 15,696
Jan 30, 2012 1:59am
My bad, could have sworn it said 14 RPG during the telecast, but looking back at it I think I got mixed up when they mentioned his 4.4 ORPG leading the NBA...Mulva;1069699 wrote:He's averaging 11 rebounds, not 14.
I think there's definitely an argument for him as an all-star reserve. Bargnani was the easy choice as backup, but if he misses significant time with the calf he's obviously not an option. Then add in Lopez, Horford, and Bogut being hurt (Horford and Bogut weren't putting up huge numbers to begin with) and there's just not a big pool to choose from.
Either way, he's nearly averaging a double-double. And as you said, Bogut, Horford, and Lopez are no where to be found.
I doubt he makes it, but he definitely has a case.
Midstate01
Posts: 14,766
Jan 30, 2012 2:56am
hoops23;1069675 wrote:Kyries game winner:
[video=youtube;Lj66SuIg6tg][/video]
Check out his dad at the bottom of the screen.. Jumps out of his seat and runs a little down the sideline lol
Lol that's funny!!
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Jan 30, 2012 5:41am
AV earns his paycheck every night out. Basketball purists love his game. Without him, LBJ's heyday here would not have been as good.hoops23;1069686 wrote:You serious? He's averaging nearly 10 PPG and almost 14 RPG...
They posted the #'s today during the game about All Star reserve centers and Andy definitely has a case. He leads the NBA in ORPG and is one of the reasons Cleveland is actually playing very decent basketball.
Never could understand the AV bashing...not now...not a few years ago either.
Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Jan 30, 2012 7:58am
Game winner was sick.
As for AV, he is a great ball player. Lot of what he does doesn't show up in the stat sheet. Players hate playing against him because he's such a pest. I don't care if he's an all star or not. Doesn't change my opinion of him.
As for AV, he is a great ball player. Lot of what he does doesn't show up in the stat sheet. Players hate playing against him because he's such a pest. I don't care if he's an all star or not. Doesn't change my opinion of him.
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BR1986FB
Posts: 24,104
Jan 30, 2012 8:16am
Nice to know that the Cavs have a player that is confident enough in his free throw shooting that he can take it to the hole in those situations...unlike #6.hoops23;1069457 wrote:Was watching with some friends and we knew Kyrie would hit te game winning shot as that game was winding down.
Then when he did, we all pretty much said "LeBron would have settled for a terrible jumper there".
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jan 30, 2012 9:34am
Basketball purists love a player who flops a lot?Footwedge;1069728 wrote:AV earns his paycheck every night out. Basketball purists love his game. Without him, LBJ's heyday here would not have been as good.
Never could understand the AV bashing...not now...not a few years ago either.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 30, 2012 9:36am
Probably talking about his relentless effort, but good troll move.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jan 30, 2012 9:38am
Are you saying AV doesn't flop a lot?bases_loaded;1069823 wrote:Probably talking about his relentless effort, but good troll move.
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Jan 30, 2012 9:39am
2007 called, they want that argument back.Skyhook79;1069821 wrote:Basketball purists love a player who flops a lot?
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jan 30, 2012 9:52am
Y-Town Steelhound;1069827 wrote:2007 called, they want that argument back.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1104/nba.biggest.flopper/content.1.html
Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Jan 30, 2012 9:58am
@ this point in their careers id agree with thishoops23;1069273 wrote:I'll take Varejao 7 days a week over Chris Kaman
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Jan 30, 2012 10:02am
Judging by some of the names, the teams they're on, and the pictures they used, your "recent" poll doesn't look too recent. So like I said (but I'll explain it slower this time so you understand). Two-thousand-seven callllled theyyyy waaaant theeeeir arguuuuument baaaack.
bases_loaded
Posts: 6,912
Jan 30, 2012 10:06am
Skyhook79;1069826 wrote:Are you saying AV doesn't flop a lot?
Are you saying you weren't intentionally derailing the conversation?
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 30, 2012 10:08am
Bet you didn't care when Vlade was easily the biggest flopper in the league.Skyhook79;1069826 wrote:Are you saying AV doesn't flop a lot?
Y-Town Steelhound
Posts: 1,388
Jan 30, 2012 10:08am
Celtics come into the Q for round 2 tomorrow night. I'm not sure they take the Cavs as lightly down the stretch this time but you never know.
se-alum
Posts: 13,948
Jan 30, 2012 10:10am
Also, honestly I didn't think Kyrie would be as good as he has been. Kid can get to the basket whenever he wants to. He's going to be an elite player in this league.
Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Jan 30, 2012 10:43am
I also never said "basketball purists love his (Vlade's) game". I hate floppers whether they are on my favorite team or not.se-alum;1069853 wrote:Bet you didn't care when Vlade was easily the biggest flopper in the league.
lhslep134
Posts: 9,774
Jan 30, 2012 10:46am
He's already an elite talent, just needs to keep developing and keep learning. Byron Scott is going to be very good for his learning.se-alum;1069856 wrote:Also, honestly I didn't think Kyrie would be as good as he has been. Kid can get to the basket whenever he wants to. He's going to be an elite player in this league.
sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Jan 30, 2012 11:34am
As good as Varejao is, he's not what we need right now. Trade him and try to get a first round draft pick. A team in contention would love his ability off the bench.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 30, 2012 1:46pm
I love floppers. Its part of the game. Now go away.Skyhook79;1069887 wrote:I also never said "basketball purists love his (Vlade's) game". I hate floppers whether they are on my favorite team or not.
Pick6
Posts: 14,946
Jan 30, 2012 1:48pm
so you would trade one of the 2 decent NBA starters on our team for a low 1st round pick?sleeper;1069943 wrote:As good as Varejao is, he's not what we need right now. Trade him and try to get a first round draft pick. A team in contention would love his ability off the bench.
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jan 30, 2012 1:50pm
+1...Pick6;1070128 wrote:I love floppers. Its part of the game. Now go away.
reps
royal_k
Posts: 4,423
Jan 30, 2012 1:51pm
There's no way I trade AV. Like others have said, it's not just his numbers. It's all of the other things he brings.