Cleveland Cavaliers 11-12 season thread

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Jan 29, 2012 3:50pm
I'm sure I'm in the minority on this subject but I thought I'd ask anyways. I watch every Cavs game but I wouldn't categorize myself as a die hard fan like some and there is one thing that bothers me. Am I the only person on here who doesn't think Varejao should be the starting center?
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Jan 29, 2012 3:59pm
Varejao is our second best player behind Irving. But he's not a starting center, he's a great 6th man(should be 6th man of the year for the 13th straight year).
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Jan 29, 2012 4:00pm
There's simply no better option for the Cavs right now at center so Varejao has to start.
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Jan 29, 2012 4:04pm
Y-Town Steelhound;1069172 wrote:There's simply no better option for the Cavs right now at center so Varejao has to start.
I disagree. I think Samuels plays more like a center than Varejao does. It was nice when Varejao came off the bench and provided the 6th man energy.
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Jan 29, 2012 4:11pm
Maybe that's why they are interested in kaman?
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Jan 29, 2012 4:30pm
Samuels has a better back to the basket offensive game, but outside of that, Varejao is better in every other aspect.
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Jan 29, 2012 4:36pm
Well to me Varejao doesn't do a lot on the defensive side. A lot of times I see him out covering guards and then he has to run to the hoop to get back on his man.
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Jan 29, 2012 5:24pm
bigdaddy2003;1069165 wrote:Am I the only person on here who doesn't think Varejao should be the starting center?
No. And I also don't think there's any way you can start him and Thompson together.
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Jan 29, 2012 6:16pm
bigdaddy2003;1069204 wrote:Well to me Varejao doesn't do a lot on the defensive side. A lot of times I see him out covering guards and then he has to run to the hoop to get back on his man.
You mean hedging on screens? Every big man does that, like they're supposed to. Andy brings energy, rebounds fairly well, takes charges, etc. does the little things that a lot of guys don't do. Like others have said, he's the best option they have right now.
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Jan 29, 2012 6:21pm
I'll take Varejao 7 days a week over Chris Kaman
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Jan 29, 2012 7:59pm
Is Gibson hurt? Dont think I have seen him in the game tonight.

Cant stress enough how tired I am of Byron sitting Kyrie half of the 4th quarter and not putting him back in until the opposing team pulls away.
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Jan 29, 2012 8:11pm
He doesn't want to wear him out right now. He barely played last year and with the lock out he's not completely in game shape I'm actually ok with it. We're not making the playoffs so why push him and get him injuried
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Jan 29, 2012 8:14pm
Gibson has a stiff neck.

Andy with 18 and 8. Played a great game overall, especially late here. KI also played well with 21 and 6.
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Jan 29, 2012 8:17pm
KYRIE.
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Jan 29, 2012 8:23pm
What a game!
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Jan 29, 2012 8:23pm
Kyrie is a f#cking stud. I'm really enjoying this season, this team doesn't quit
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Jan 29, 2012 8:36pm
Was watching with some friends and we knew Kyrie would hit te game winning shot as that game was winding down.

Then when he did, we all pretty much said "LeBron would have settled for a terrible jumper there".
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Jan 29, 2012 8:43pm
Gotta give alot of credit to Gee, the guy is limited when it comes to natural talent but he's busting his ass out there.
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Jan 29, 2012 9:22pm
Irving is very very good. He's going to be a top 5 PG in 1 or 2 more years, I guarantee it.

The better question is, can we keep him?
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Jan 29, 2012 9:24pm
Too early to get into that debate IMO.
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Jan 29, 2012 10:20pm
Commander of Awesome;1069518 wrote:Too early to get into that debate IMO.
Which one?
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Jan 30, 2012 12:40am
[video=youtube;Qd2fQHjH6w4][/video]
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Jan 30, 2012 12:49am
Kyries game winner:
[video=youtube;Lj66SuIg6tg][/video]

Check out his dad at the bottom of the screen.. Jumps out of his seat and runs a little down the sideline lol
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Jan 30, 2012 1:03am
Jester;1069269 wrote:You mean hedging on screens? Every big man does that, like they're supposed to. Andy brings energy, rebounds fairly well, takes charges, etc. does the little things that a lot of guys don't do. Like others have said, he's the best option they have right now.
I just don't think he should be the starting center. His high energy level at 6th man was much better in my opinion. It's cool if the rest of the fan base likes him but to think he is a starting center and that should be on the all star team (Mike Snyder said it the other night on WTAM) is a little much to me. Just my opinion.
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Jan 30, 2012 1:09am
bigdaddy2003;1069681 wrote:I just don't think he should be the starting center. His high energy level at 6th man was much better in my opinion. It's cool if the rest of the fan base likes him but to think he is a starting center and that should be on the all star team (Mike Snyder said it the other night on WTAM) is a little much to me. Just my opinion.
You serious? He's averaging nearly 10 PPG and almost 14 RPG...

They posted the #'s today during the game about All Star reserve centers and Andy definitely has a case. He leads the NBA in ORPG and is one of the reasons Cleveland is actually playing very decent basketball.