
Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 13, 2011 1:25pm
Automatik;1013467 wrote:According to the ESPN announcement, that was his 5th illegal hit in 3 seasons. I'm wondering if that includes the one against Fitzpatrick from last year that was complete bullshit.
I think it was only the 5th on a QB. So that excludes the Massaquoi and Cribbs hits, and Im not sure on others, I dont watch all the Steelers games.
Maybe this will give Harrison time to go snake hunting. This is my favorite Harrison quote of all time lol.
[LEFT]Harrison, who lives in a suburb north of Pittsburgh, has come to Arizona to heal and train after back surgery over the winter, and he is bored and antagonized by the desert. “There’s snakes out there. I grabbed a rattler by his tail and threw him over the fence last month.”
You grabbed a rattler bare-handed?
“Had to,” he says. “My son was here visiting, so that bitch had to bounce out. ASAP.”[/LEFT]
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Gblock
Dec 13, 2011 1:36pm
only thing worse is the timeout before a field goal(milliseconds before he kicks it)...IMO this shouldnt be allowed...WebFire;1013632 wrote:The defenseless player fouls are so bad they are almost ruining the game.

Skyhook79
Posts: 5,739
Dec 13, 2011 1:41pm
Didn't they draft Braylan Edwards and Kellen Winslow etc,etc?BR1986FB;1013530 wrote:He said "draft an asshole" which would imply a jerk, a villain. You interpreted asshole to mean crappy player.

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 13, 2011 2:05pm
Why? so a QB shouldnt be allowed to call a TO with the play-clock under 3. Defense should be allowed to call a TO last second if they see they have 12 on the field? That is stupid. A TO is a legal part of the game, you cant just decide when a team can and cant use them (sans, back to back TOs).Gblock;1013675 wrote:only thing worse is the timeout before a field goal(milliseconds before he kicks it)...IMO this shouldnt be allowed...
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Gblock
Dec 13, 2011 2:12pm
seems bush league to me...i dont mind a timeout to ice the kicker but a timeout as he kicks it i dont like..i guess im old school nflLaley23;1013711 wrote:Why? so a QB shouldnt be allowed to call a TO with the play-clock under 3. Defense should be allowed to call a TO last second if they see they have 12 on the field? That is stupid. A TO is a legal part of the game, you cant just decide when a team can and cant use them (sans, back to back TOs).

Laley23
Posts: 29,506
Dec 13, 2011 2:26pm
It works just as much as it backfires (miss then make) though, so who really cares?Gblock;1013722 wrote:seems bush league to me...i dont mind a timeout to ice the kicker but a timeout as he kicks it i dont like..i guess im old school nfl

Commander of Awesome
Posts: 23,151
Dec 13, 2011 2:26pm
He only got a 1 game suspension? 5 time repeat offender gets suspended for one game, yet suh gets 2 game? What Harrison did/has done was worse than Suh’s half hearted (though thuggish) stomp. Commish just isn’t consistent.
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Gblock
Dec 13, 2011 2:29pm
I do and its annoying...the nfl made it for many decades without doing it and liked it that way betterLaley23;1013742 wrote:It works just as much as it backfires (miss then make) though, so who really cares?

Raw Dawgin' it
Posts: 11,466
Dec 13, 2011 2:31pm
QQing all over this threadGblock;1013745 wrote:I do and its annoying...the nfl made it for many decades without doing it and liked it that way better

Heretic
Posts: 18,820
Dec 13, 2011 2:35pm
Suh's was an after-the-play event, as opposed to an illegal during-the-play hit. I think most leagues are far more concerned with anything that goes on after the whistles than rough and/or illegal stuff that happens as part of a play. Like, take the X-UC basketball game from the weekend. People are wanting Yancy Gates' head on a platter for throwing a sucker punch at Freese. But if it was a brutal foul during the game (like completely blasting a guy w/o going for the ball when he's in midair) instead of a punch after a play, the only way people would even care for more than 3 minutes is if that foul directly led to a fight. And even then, it wouldn't get the same outrage. He'd be kicked out of the game and might have to sit one or two out if the school, league, NCAA intervenes, but there wouldn't be the "ONLY SIX GAMES?!?!? FUCK THAT...WE WANT BLOOD!" reaction.Commander of Awesome;1013743 wrote:He only got a 1 game suspension? 5 time repeat offender gets suspended for one game, yet suh gets 2 game? What Harrison did/has done was worse than Suh’s half hearted (though thuggish) stomp. Commish just isn’t consistent.
A Yahoo blog I read said that this is actually breaking new ground, as no one has previously been suspended for a helmet-to-helmet (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/James-Harrison-has-been-suspended-for-one-game;_ylt=Ap_uKId80N9J.NqaoGOcETo5nYcB?urn=nfl-wp13800).

Hb31187
Posts: 8,534
Dec 13, 2011 2:39pm
Webfire, I agree 100% that the defenseless player fouls are 10x worse then the helmet to helmet calls. Its almost as if you're just supposed to let the WR catch the ball, and brace for the hit before you touch him..its stupid

Automatik
Posts: 14,632
Dec 13, 2011 2:59pm
Suh's and Harrison's recent suspensions are not comparable, not even close.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Dec 13, 2011 3:49pm
Yeah...the Browns trainers will get a suspension too.THE4RINGZ;1013595 wrote:The medical staff in Cleveland has just as bad of a reputation as Harrison does. I believe the league will look into the sideline treatment of McCoy after the hit. To ignore the situation is irresponsible.
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Footwedge
Posts: 9,265
Dec 13, 2011 4:07pm
Former Buckeye...the assassin would have racked up some suspensions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEgQARSzaI0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEgQARSzaI0

THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Dec 13, 2011 4:10pm
Tatum was a beast.

GoPens
Posts: 2,339
Dec 13, 2011 4:13pm
First player in 25 years to be suspended for a tackle on the field. The suspension is uncalled for. A hefty fine would have been more appropriate.

sleeper
Posts: 27,879
Dec 13, 2011 4:15pm
Harrison gets my vote for the dirtiest player in the NFL. If the NFL was serious about limiting injuries they'd kick him out of the league. That, and the roids is an absolute disgrace to college football.GoPens;1013844 wrote:First player in 25 years to be suspended for a tackle on the field. The suspension is uncalled for. A hefty fine would have been more appropriate.
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Prescott
Posts: 2,569
Dec 13, 2011 4:44pm
I don't think so.The NFL call helmet-to-helmet no matter who or what position.
Players are banned from using any part of their helmet or face mask to "butt, spear or ram an opponent violently or unnecessarily," according to Rule 12, Section 2, Article 8 of the NFL Rulebook, except when going against a runner who isn't considered a defenseless player.

wes_mantooth
Posts: 17,977
Dec 13, 2011 4:44pm
sleeper;1013847 wrote:Harrison gets my vote for the dirtiest player in the NFL. If the NFL was serious about limiting injuries they'd kick him out of the league. That, and the roids is an absolute disgrace to college football.
I think he is dirty, but the bigger problem is that he is dumber than a box of rocks. He doesn't get it....so he won't change.

OSH
Posts: 4,145
Dec 13, 2011 4:55pm
If they are going to flag players for "defenseless" positions, then they need to start flagging for those players with the ball, who are on the ground already (such as catching it and accidentally falling to the ground), and preventing the defender from driving a helmet, shoulder, and body into the player. This is almost the most defenseless position one can get on the football field. It doesn't take much to just touch the player down. Nobody needs to project themselves like a missile into the grounded player.
Until they do something about that, the others are solely to protect franchise players (particularly the QBs and WRs).
Until they do something about that, the others are solely to protect franchise players (particularly the QBs and WRs).

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 13, 2011 5:10pm
I would've just fined him. $50,000....donate money to the charity of Colt's choice.
I hope he plays about 3 more seasons, hopefully another Super Bowl ring, get another hit that draws a large suspension (but hurts no player) and he retires right there, tells Goodell to kiss his ass.....and then does it again 5 years later during his HOF speech.
I hope he plays about 3 more seasons, hopefully another Super Bowl ring, get another hit that draws a large suspension (but hurts no player) and he retires right there, tells Goodell to kiss his ass.....and then does it again 5 years later during his HOF speech.

THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Dec 13, 2011 5:11pm
Ironman92;1013885 wrote:I would've just fined him. $50,000....donate money to the charity of Colt's choice.
I hope he plays about 3 more seasons, hopefully another Super Bowl ring, get another hit that draws a large suspension (but hurts no player) and he retires right there, tells Goodell to kiss his ass.....and then does it again 5 years later during his HOF speech.
I think these hits might hinder his acceptance into the HOF.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 13, 2011 5:12pm
Possibly my biggest problem aside from the explosive hit.......why the fuck didn't Colt slide? Aren't quarterbacks taught to slide feet first to avoid getting mauled in such situations? You'd think you would abide by that recommendation and maybe even more so with a crazy guy coming at you.

Ironman92
Posts: 49,363
Dec 13, 2011 5:14pm
Yeah, for sure.......but 2 or 3 more Pro Bowls and another defensive POY or another SB Championship would offset many things.THE4RINGZ;1013886 wrote:I think these hits might hinder his acceptance into the HOF.
Been a lot of dirty players make the HOF.

THE4RINGZ
Posts: 16,816
Dec 13, 2011 5:16pm
If he does make it, I hope he asks Goodell to give his induction speech.