12/10/11 2011 Crosstown Shootout-- UC @ Xavier.

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Dec 11, 2011 12:39am
yeah, I have my doubts...probably just a pissed off fan starting shit.
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Dec 11, 2011 12:40am
Manhattan Buckeye;1010849 wrote:Only place I've seen it was a report from a Bearcat message board that kept being repeated. You would think with the attention the game received it would be on cbs.sports, cnnsi or espn.com
Ya, absolutely no reports of this on any of the Cincinnati news sources. And there is no way...with the way the national media is treating this as if it was an actual shootout on the court...that they wouldn't have reported this if it were true.

Just got a tweet back from my friend. Kind of made me LOL.
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not sure. But after what I saw today, anything is possible. #stillinshockalittle
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Dec 11, 2011 12:45am
wes_mantooth;1010847 wrote:I just cant picture this being true. From what I saw, Frease had a camera on him the whole time because of his mangled face.
I thought the same thing. I googled "Kenny Frease assistant coach's wife" and the best link was dome dude's twitter who said he wasn't even there but two guys that were at the game saw it. Probably not much truth to it.
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Dec 11, 2011 12:47am
Frease's eye.

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Dec 11, 2011 12:49am
The rumor...according to BearcatsBlog on Twitter was that Kenny went into the stands and hit a fan which turned out to be a UC assistant coach's wife.

Now I know that isn't true. If a player went into the stands, there is no way that would have not been mentioned yet. Nobody went into the stands. The closest to that was Tu going over and standing on the press table.

I'm pretty confident now that this one is just a rumor.
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Dec 11, 2011 12:53am
sherm03;1010861 wrote:The rumor...according to BearcatsBlog on Twitter was that Kenny went into the stands and hit a fan which turned out to be a UC assistant coach's wife.

Now I know that isn't true. If a player went into the stands, there is no way that would have not been mentioned yet. Nobody went into the stands. The closest to that was Tu going over and standing on the press table.

I'm pretty confident now that this one is just a rumor.
yeah, no way that happened. My first thought was that he ran into this woman on his way off the court...and someone said he assaulted her.
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Dec 11, 2011 12:53am
I heard that the Kenny Frease butchered a family that had stopped him for an autograph on the way to his car. Any truth to this on Twitter? Probably not true.
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Dec 11, 2011 12:55am
reclegend22;1010863 wrote:I heard that the Kenny Frease butchered a family that had stopped him for an autograph on the way to his car. Any truth to this on Twitter? Probably not true.
That would be correct.
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Dec 11, 2011 12:56am
reclegend22;1010863 wrote:I heard that the Kenny Frease butchered a family that had stopped him for an autograph on the way to his car. Any truth to this on Twitter? Probably not true.
that is ok, the real question is....what kind of car was it? and did he get any free tattoos?
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Dec 11, 2011 12:57am
wes_mantooth;1010867 wrote:that is ok, the real question is....what kind of car was it? and did he get any free tattoos?
Who paid for the car?
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Dec 11, 2011 12:57am
LOL.

The other version of the Kenny Frease assault rumor is that a woman tried to take a picture of him with her phone, and he slapped the phone out of her hand.
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Dec 11, 2011 12:58am
sportswizuhrd;1010858 wrote:I thought the same thing. I googled "Kenny Frease assistant coach's wife" and the best link was dome dude's twitter who said he wasn't even there but two guys that were at the game saw it. Probably not much truth to it.


Probably the same guy that would tweet that he knows two guys that went to high school with twins named Lemonjello and Oranjello.
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Dec 11, 2011 1:04am
sherm03;1010869 wrote:LOL.

The other version of the Kenny Frease assault rumor is that a woman tried to take a picture of him with her phone, and he slapped the phone out of her hand.
if she did try that...He should have assaulted her...j/k
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Dec 11, 2011 3:13am
sherm03;1010869 wrote:LOL.

The other version of the Kenny Frease assault rumor is that a woman tried to take a picture of him with her phone, and he slapped the phone out of her hand.
So the phone is pressing charges?
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Dec 11, 2011 4:05am
Yep it dialed 911 before it even hit the floor
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Dec 11, 2011 8:25am
sherm03;1010869 wrote:LOL.

The other version of the Kenny Frease assault rumor is that a woman tried to take a picture of him with her phone, and he slapped the phone out of her hand.
I heard a caller claim that on the 700 WLW call in show after the game. He was supposed to have been seated behind the UC bench. I have yet to read it in print yet.
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Dec 11, 2011 9:20am
Well that was a fun day.
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Dec 11, 2011 9:28am
CinciX12;1010945 wrote:Well that was a fun day.
lol :thumbup:
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Dec 11, 2011 9:30am
The Frease incident allegedly was caught on camera. It has been posted to youtube. Watch the 3:20 mark of this video. Frease goes over towards the UC fanbase,jumps into the stands and is either throwing a punch or swining his arms. He is pulled away by an XU player wearing his warmups.

Not sure if this factual or not, just pointing it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zF6fL2urgYQ
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Dec 11, 2011 9:33am
Talking during this game has happened for about the last 10 years. Actually for 39 minutes and 50 seconds it was one of the most tame shootouts I had ever seen. Then Tu goes up and says something to the UC bench who is getting their asses kicked (I'll actually talk about the game in a second) and they didn't handle that very well obviously. Dez Wells comes up and tries to defend Holloway. Wells is an 18 year old who got caught up in the moment and escalated the damn thing to a riot. Yancy Gates is on video throwing and actually hitting 2 separate players. Then whoever 13 is from UC, attempted (don't know if he was successful) at kicking poor ogre Kenny Frease in the face. Bottom line both teams were full of a bunch of morons.

At this point they call the game with whatever time is on the clock, and while it looks bad for both sides, I think you could have made an argument that X's kids looked bad but UC's looked like insane people (thank you Yancy). Then the press conference comes, and Holloway says some of the dumbest shit I have ever heard. He turned the conversation from the fight to the fact that he takes things WAY too seriously apparently. Mack should have never made the 2 of them available. Cronin handled the press conference beautifully and scored a ton of points. Now its a different discussion if he actually goes through on anything he said (I don't think he will).

As for the game, X finally played 40 minutes of basketball and looked clearly superior to a team finally. Complete game by everybody. Holloway and Lyons did their usual thing and we finally got production from Frease. Wells was awesome as he has been every game.

UC is terrible though. Legit awful. Can't shoot, can't defend, can't rebound. Just bad. That was a ranked team to start the season? Man.

Summary: Tu Holloway is an idiot who takes sporting events too seriously. Yancy Gates is common street trash from Withrow who will end up in prison someday.
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Dec 11, 2011 9:37am
I love how frease is walking around like he just won a national title. Dude you just got knocked the fuck out!! Why are you parading around like you did something. Idiot. All of them
Are idiots! Both sides!
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Dec 11, 2011 9:39am
Lol...he was not exactly uhhh "jumping into the stands" and I saw nothing that would constitute "assault"
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Dec 11, 2011 9:40am
CinciX12;1010953 wrote:Talking during this game has happened for about the last 10 years. Actually for 39 minutes and 50 seconds it was one of the most tame shootouts I had ever seen. Then Tu goes up and says something to the UC bench who is getting their asses kicked (I'll actually talk about the game in a second) and they didn't handle that very well obviously. Dez Wells comes up and tries to defend Holloway. Wells is an 18 year old who got caught up in the moment and escalated the damn thing to a riot. Yancy Gates is on video throwing and actually hitting 2 separate players. Then whoever 13 is from UC, attempted (don't know if he was successful) at kicking poor ogre Kenny Frease in the face. Bottom line both teams were full of a bunch of morons.

At this point they call the game with whatever time is on the clock, and while it looks bad for both sides, I think you could have made an argument that X's kids looked bad but UC's looked like insane people (thank you Yancy). Then the press conference comes, and Holloway says some of the dumbest **** I have ever heard. He turned the conversation from the fight to the fact that he takes things WAY too seriously apparently. Mack should have never made the 2 of them available. Cronin handled the press conference beautifully and scored a ton of points. Now its a different discussion if he actually goes through on anything he said (I don't think he will).

As for the game, X finally played 40 minutes of basketball and looked clearly superior to a team finally. Complete game by everybody. Holloway and Lyons did their usual thing and we finally got production from Frease. Wells was awesome as he has been every game.

UC is terrible though. Legit awful. Can't shoot, can't defend, can't rebound. Just bad. That was a ranked team to start the season? Man.

Summary: Tu Holloway is an idiot who takes sporting events too seriously. Yancy Gates is common street trash from Withrow who will end up in prison someday.

+1. Good stuff.

I do think Cronin will get rid of a few players or at least yancy and other receive long suspensions. He didn't seem like a guy who wanted to even be around them.
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Dec 11, 2011 9:40am
Midstate01;1010955 wrote:I love how frease is walking around like he just won a national title. Dude you just got knocked the **** out!! Why are you parading around like you did something. Idiot. All of them
Are idiots! Both sides!
He laid at half court and I just thought to myself, Kenny please get up, for yourself if anything. You look like a bitch.
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Dec 11, 2011 9:41am
CinciX12;1010959 wrote:He laid at half court and I just thought to myself, Kenny please get up, for yourself if anything. You look like a bitch.

The crawl was the funniest part to me. But i guess it was probably his only way out of there too.