Archive 12/10/11 2011 Crosstown Shootout-- UC @ Xavier.

Hb31187

Posts: 8,534

Dec 10, 2011 3:57pm

Midstate01;1010174 wrote:Except that's all within the rules, but I see what you're saying

Yeah, even in baseball or football where theres no rule allowing fighting its not as big of a deal. Sure theyll get ejected or suspended a game or 2 for a baseball brawl...but when its basketball players its a HUGE deal for some reason

sherm03

Posts: 7,349

Dec 10, 2011 3:57pm

Skyhook79;1010146 wrote:That would be Tu Holloway. He put his hand into the UC's player chest.

[video=youtube;Gkj_kWh7sZI][/video]

Sure looks to me like the kid jawing with Tu put his hands on him first, and then Tu pushed him down.

thedynasty1998

Posts: 6,844

Dec 10, 2011 3:57pm

Hb31187;1010157 wrote:Whats even more funny, is how much heat these players will catch for fighting and how classless and thuggish they are. And then the next highlight in sportscenter will be Hockey players beating the **** out of eachother lol, double standard ftw

Pathetic comparison.

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vball10set

Posts: 24,795

Dec 10, 2011 3:58pm

Hb31187;1010184 wrote:Yeah, even in baseball or football where theres no rule allowing fighting its not as big of a deal. Sure theyll get ejected or suspended a game or 2 for a baseball brawl...but when its basketball players its a HUGE deal for some reason

smh

Hb31187

Posts: 8,534

Dec 10, 2011 3:59pm

vball10set;1010188 wrote:smh

Great response:thumbup:

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Legit_Leggo97

Posts: 3

Dec 10, 2011 3:59pm

Yeah, Tu shouldn't have been tlking ****, it didn't give the UC guy any right just to punch him...

Skyhook79

Posts: 5,739

Dec 10, 2011 4:02pm

sherm03;1010185 wrote:Sure looks to me like the kid jawing with Tu put his hands on him first, and then Tu pushed him down.

Better watch the video again, Tu clearly raises his hand first and pokes him in the chest.

justincredible

Posts: 32,056

Dec 10, 2011 4:02pm

Hb31187;1010192 wrote:Great response:thumbup:

I'm with you 100%. Fights happen in other sports and it's no big deal. Fights happen in basketball and everyone is a "thug" for some reason. It's also usually just the black guys that get labeled as thugs.

Skyhook79

Posts: 5,739

Dec 10, 2011 4:03pm

justincredible;1010211 wrote:I'm with you 100%. Fights happen in other sports and it's no big deal. Fights happen in basketball and everyone is a "thug" for some reason. It's also usually just the black guys that get labeled as thugs.

Bill Laimbeer disagrees.

thedynasty1998

Posts: 6,844

Dec 10, 2011 4:03pm

Skyhook79;1010208 wrote:Better watch the video again, Tu clearly raises his hand first and pokes him in the chest.

Who gives a $hit? Are you trying to justify this? Tu should have stayed calmer, but he's hardly the guy to start the melee.

Skyhook79

Posts: 5,739

Dec 10, 2011 4:04pm

thedynasty1998;1010214 wrote:Who gives a $hit? Are you trying to justify this? Tu should have stayed calmer, but he's hardly the guy to start the melee.

I am not justifying anything just pointing out who started it.

Speedofsand

Posts: 5,529

Dec 10, 2011 4:05pm

Hb31187;1010157 wrote:Whats even more funny, is how much heat these players will catch for fighting and how classless and thuggish they are. And then the next highlight in sportscenter will be Hockey players beating the **** out of eachother lol, double standard ftw

Yeah lets put ice skate blades on the thuggas and see them kick each other.

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Legit_Leggo97

Posts: 3

Dec 10, 2011 4:07pm

watching the video 20 times won't help anything, the UC kid got up in his face.

september63

Posts: 5,789

Dec 10, 2011 4:08pm

justincredible;1010211 wrote:I'm with you 100%. Fights happen in other sports and it's no big deal. Fights happen in basketball and everyone is a "thug" for some reason. It's also usually just the black guys that get labeled as thugs.

WTF? Call Gates what you want whether he was black or white. He f'in cold cocked a guy that wasnt even looking at him.

sherm03

Posts: 7,349

Dec 10, 2011 4:09pm

Skyhook79;1010208 wrote:Better watch the video again, Tu clearly raises his hand first and pokes him in the chest.

Looks to me like the kid from UC goes to raise his hands up to Tu, and Holloway pushes his him away.

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Legit_Leggo97

Posts: 3

Dec 10, 2011 4:12pm

You guys can say what you want, but UC started the fight... Everybody tlks crap, but that gives people no right just to punch a guy..

Hb31187

Posts: 8,534

Dec 10, 2011 4:14pm

september63;1010231 wrote:WTF? Call Gates what you want whether he was black or white. He f'in cold cocked a guy that wasnt even looking at him.

And if it happened in a baseball brawl nobody would be crying for him to be suspended a full year. I mean shit, Pedro fucking hip tossed a 70 year old and nobody thought he shoudl be gone for a year lol

Skyhook79

Posts: 5,739

Dec 10, 2011 4:16pm

Legit_Leggo97;1010244 wrote:You guys can say what you want, but UC started the fight... Everybody tlks crap, but that gives people no right just to punch a guy..

Wells from Xavier is the one who elevated the fight.

Mulva

Posts: 13,650

Dec 10, 2011 4:21pm

Hb31187;1010246 wrote:And if it happened in a baseball brawl nobody would be crying for him to be suspended a full year. I mean shit, Pedro fucking hip tossed a 70 year old and nobody thought he shoudl be gone for a year lol

If Kenny Frease was bull-rushing Gates the situation would be a little different. It's not like Zimmer was just standing there and Pedro went out of his way to attack him. The dude charged him and Pedro gave him the bullfighter treatment.

Nobody cares about baseball brawls because they're pathetic. Nothing ever happens. Nobody was calling for anyone in this game to be suspended with the incident at the end of the 1st half, because all they did was get into each others faces, clear the benches, and talk shit. THAT is what baseball brawls are like.

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vball10set

Posts: 24,795

Dec 10, 2011 4:21pm

justincredible;1010211 wrote:I'm with you 100%. Fights happen in other sports and it's no big deal. Fights happen in basketball and everyone is a "thug" for some reason. It's also usually just the black guys that get labeled as thugs.

smh...just calling a spade a spade

Little Danny

Posts: 4,288

Dec 10, 2011 4:30pm

Terry_Tate;1009940 wrote:Looks like UC has Retro unis as well. They need to go back to the uniforms from The late 90s early 2000s. Those were some sweet unis.

those were nike unis. uc's deal is with adidas and I think eveyone is happy w/ that deal.

Little Danny

Posts: 4,288

Dec 10, 2011 4:42pm

Classless behavior by both teams. There should be a number of players supended after this: Gates, Mbodj (they guy who stomped Frease), Lyons, Holloway to start with and I am sure as they examine the tapes they will see more guys whose conduct warrant suspension.

j_crazy

Posts: 8,372

Dec 10, 2011 5:03pm

Hb31187;1010246 wrote:And if it happened in a baseball brawl nobody would be crying for him to be suspended a full year. I mean shit, Pedro fucking hip tossed a 70 year old and nobody thought he shoudl be gone for a year lol

70 yr old charged Pedro. Frease was in the middle trying to get his guy out of it.

And tu should be suspended too. But I don't think he started it.

Crimson streak

Posts: 9,002

Dec 10, 2011 5:23pm

I don't see tu getting suspended. He talked shit so what so he's going to get suspended bc the cinci players can't control there actions. It's a rivalry game just like when Boston and Woodson use to go at it but it's different because they didn't throw punches and start a brawl. Gates has been in trouble before so he will get quite a few games or even the season. Lyons should get a couple games also

karen lotz

Posts: 22,284

Dec 10, 2011 5:24pm

Cronin did a pretty good job in his post game presser. Starts talking about the brawl around the 3:30 mark.

http://www.gobearcats.com/allaccess/?media=273285